BAKU: Released Azeri opposition leaders vow to continue struggle for

Released Azeri opposition leaders vow to continue struggle for democracy

ANS TV, Baku
21 Mar 05

[Presenter] The decree on pardon signed by [Azerbaijani] President
[Ilham] Aliyev on 20 March was fully executed today. Among the
released are those who were on the Council of Europe’s list of
political prisoners.

[Correspondent, over video of Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev,
prisoners] The president has relieved 114 inmates from the rest of
their prison terms after considering requests for pardon, the health
condition of convicts, their family status, the duration of their
prison terms and their behaviour in prison.

[Passage omitted: reported details]

A total of 53 people released on pardon are those whom the Council
of Europe regarded as political prisoners.

[Rahim Qaziyev, pardoned former defence minister, captioned] As you
see, I am not bad, thanks to God. I am all right.

[Correspondent] [Editor-in-chief of Yeni Musavat newspaper] Rauf
Arifoglu, [chairman of the Hope Party and MP] Iqbal Agazada,
[chairman of the Karabakh War Disabled Society] Etimad Asadov,
[deputy chairman of the Musavat Party] Arif Hacili, [chairman of the
People’s Party of Azerbaijan and former prime minister] Panah Huseynov,
[deputy chairman of the Musavat Party] Ibrahim Ibrahimli and [general
secretary of the Democratic Party of Azerbaijan] Sardar Calaloglu
[who were convicted over post-elections riots on 15-16 October 2003]
have also been pardoned.

Sardar Calaloglu and Iqbal Agazada believe that their release was
possible following the pressure from international organizations.
Rauf Arifoglu said that the head of state should have taken this step
a year before. As for the future plans of the pardoned:

[Sardar Calaloglu, captioned] I think that we have to continue the
work from the point we started on 16 October [2003]. Azerbaijan is
on the eve of the parliamentary elections [in November]. We will do
our utmost to have those elections democratic.

[Iqbal Agazada, captioned] I will continue heading the party. We will
closely deal with both party building and the problems of Azerbaijan.
We will pronounce our unspoken words by taking a serious part in
Azerbaijan’s social and political life.

[Rauf Arifoglu, captioned] I will continue my activity as the editor
of the newspaper. [sentence indistinct]

[Correspondent] The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe
[PACE] has called on the Azerbaijani government to resolve the
problem of political prisoners till its spring session in April. It
was largely said that if otherwise, Azerbaijan might face troubles
at the PACE. The head of the Azerbaijani delegation to the PACE,
Samad Seyidov, believes that Azerbaijan has already resolved the
problem of political prisoners.

[Samad Seyidov, captioned] The relations between Azerbaijan and
the Council of Europe will develop normally and constructively. Any
issue regarding Azerbaijan at the April session of the PACE can be
considered to be out of the agenda.

[Correspondent] The special rapporteur of the PACE on political
prisoners, Malcolm Bruce, has told ANS that he commends the decree on
pardon by President Aliyev. He said that this fact will be especially
noted in his report.

Ceyhun Asgarov, Hikmat Asgarov for ANS.

BAKU: IPI concerned by introduction of new Turkish Penal Code

Central Asian and Southern Caucasus Freedom of Expression Network
(CASCFEN), Azerbaijan
March 23 2005

IPI concerned by introduction of new Turkish Penal Code

Published: 23.03.2005

CASCFEN, Baku, 23.03.2005 — Johann P. Fritz, the Director of the
Vienna based International Press Institute (IPI) has addressed to
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Prime Minister of Turkey in regard to Turkish
Penal Code’s introduction. Following is the text of the letter sent
on 23 March 2005:

“The International Press Institute (IPI), the global network of
editors, media executives and leading journalists, is deeply
concerned about the introduction of a new Turkish Penal Code (TCK)
and the continued criminal prosecution of a number of journalists.

The new TCK was adopted last year and will come into force on 1
April. According to reports, the new TCK contains provisions to
punish journalists with prison sentences for their work, as well as
vague wording that could make it easier for the authorities to
suppress the media. The new TCK is the first change to the Penal Code
in 78 years and it revamps Turkey’s criminal laws.

According to information before IPI, the new penal code has 30
articles that threaten press freedom. In the face of these changes,
the Turkish Journalists Association and the Turkish Press Council
have heavily criticised the new TCK.

On 14 March, the Turkish Journalists Association sent a letter
criticising the new TCK to the Minister of Justice, Cemil Cicek. The
minister has promised to consider the complaints and make the
necessary changes.

The Journalists Association maintains that certain articles must be
changed because they prevent journalists from writing about on-going
police investigations. Furthermore, article 125 on “insult” states
that any criticism of a political figure might be interpreted as a
personal insult and could lead to the journalist being imprisoned.
The minimum sentence for committing a crime “against a state official
because of his or her post” is one year in prison.

In addition, the new TCK increases prison sentences where the media
are involved and is in stark contrast to the Press Law. As an
example, where journalists write about an on-going police
investigation, the current Press Law (article 19) provides for large
fines, while the new TCK (article 288) carries prison sentences from
six months to three years.

In this connection, two journalists for the Milliyet daily, Tolga
Sardan and Gokser Tahincioglu, face charges for writing articles
about alleged links between Turkish mafia boss Alaattin Cakici, the
National Information Agency (MYT) and the Court of Appeals.

Hürriyet reporters Toygun Atilla and Cetin Aydin, as well as editor
Necdet Tatlican, are also on trial for allegedly violating the
secrecy of an on-going police investigation in a separate case
involving alleged links between state institutions and the mafia.

The journalists were prosecuted because they published tapes of
telephone conversations that reveal this relationship. They are
accused of breaching article 4422 of the Penal Code that is related
to the fight against organised crime. While they have cited facts in
their articles that shed light on the investigation, they are liable
for breaking the law because the police investigation had not been
concluded. Now the journalists face imprisonment. The case is the
first time that journalists have been prosecuted under the Penal Code
and not sued according to the Press Law.

The new TCK also contains clauses for acting against the “basic
national interest” in return for material benefits from foreigners.
Under article 220, individuals found guilty of setting up an
organisation that aims to commit crimes, or disseminating propaganda
for such an organisation, are given prison sentences, which are
increased by half, if the propaganda is disseminated by media
outlets.

Many other articles also increase the prison sentence by half if the
offence was committed through the media. Thus, article 305 can be
used to charge people who write about controversial issues, such as
Turkish troops in Cyprus or the Armenian genocide; article 318 can be
used to charge individuals, who write critical pieces about the
military.

IPI calls on Your Excellency to take into account the demands of the
Turkish journalists and to amend the Penal Code to decriminalise
defamation. IPI believes criminal insult laws to be an anachronism
that should be removed from every legal system. They should not exist
in a country seeking to join the European Union and no journalist
should have the stigma of a criminal record for merely expressing his
or her opinions.

By keeping defamation as a criminal offence, journalists are forced
to weigh up the public interest of publishing against the fear of
criminal prosecution. This will only encourage greater
self-censorship in Turkey and this is to the detriment of not only
the journalism profession, but also the country’s readership which
will be deprived of valuable information.

IPI would also like to remind Your Excellency that Article 19 of the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that everyone has the
right to “seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any
media and regardless of frontiers.””

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“Efficiency Of Influence Of Foreign Forces Is Defined By Presence Of

“EFFICIENCY OF INFLUENCE OF FOREIGN FORCES IS DEFINED BY PRESENCE OF
DOMESTIC DEMAND,” ALEXANDER ISKANDARIAN COMMENTS ON SITUATION IN
KYRGHYZSTAN

YEREVAN, MARCH 21, NOYAN TAPAN. The experience shows that the
post-electoral situation in the CIS countries, with the exception
of Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan ruled by totalitarian regimes, is
accompanied by mass discontent. Alexander Iskandarian, Director
of the Caucasian Mass Media Institute, declared in his interview
to Noyan Tapan’s correspondent while commenting on the situation
formed at present in Kyrghyzstan. According to him, usually after the
elections the opposition of the post-Soviet countries doesn’t accept
the results of the elections and considers them falsified. So, the
stage of political pressure exerted on the authorities in the form of
rallies and demonstrations begins. As for the possible participation
of foreign forces in the current events in Kyrghyzstan, Alexander
Iskandarian said: “If there is social discontent and people able to
give political vent to this discontent the foreign forces may make use
of this but not on the contrary, such events can’t be ungrounded, there
should be the respective social base, i.e. no matter how much money
milti-millionaire Soros would invest in Norway no revolution might
take place there.” In A.Iskandarian’s estimation, the interference of
foreign forces is often exaggerated. “Naturally, this interference is
often present but the efficiency of the influence of foreign forces
on the situation in this or that country is defined by the presence
of the domestic demand, the respective domestic conditions.” To recap,
the situation formed after the second tour of parliamentary elections
in Kyrghyzstan (March 13) is accompanied by mass actions of protest,
in particular, in the south of the country. Thousands of actions of
protest were held in the regions of Jalal-Abad, Isik-Kul, Narinsk,
towns of Osh, Uzgen and others. The opposition protests against the
results of the parliamentary elections and demands the resignation
of President of the country Askar Akayev.

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La Nouvelle République du Centre Ouest
21 mars 2005

“Arménie, 3.000 ans d’histoire”

Samedi matin 12 mars, à l’heure de l’inauguration, dans la petite
salle du conseil, les visiteurs ont été nombreux à vouloir découvrir
l’exposition sur l’Arménie ouverte au public pendant le week-end.

L’Arménie vue sous divers aspects a séduit les Génulphiens enclins à
la découverte des pays qui leur sont inconnus. C’est dans ce sens que
la commission animation, sous l’impulsion de la première-adjointe
Monique Freton, a pris l’initiative de faire voyager la population à
travers des expositions sur des pays étrangers.

Une idée saluée par le président Jean- Pierre Constanza, de Touraine
sans frontière : « C’est la première municipalité de Tour’S Plus qui
s’est lancée dans cette aventure, il a fallu beaucoup d’audace » a
déclaré ce dernier. Auparavant, le maire avait rappelé : « C’est une
volonté de la commission culturelle, nous sommes satisfaits, on ne
s’attendait pas à ce succès. Je tiens à remercier M. Constanza qui
habite Saint-Genouph car c’est lui qui nous aide à trouver des pays
et nous mettre en relation. Je pense que cette exposition prendra une
ampleur dans le département et au-delà des frontières…
Saint-Genouph est une commune très ouverte. »

Alain Garabedian a constaté également : « Pour une petite commune qui
n’a pas de gros moyens, c’est une aventure d’autant plus difficile
qu’elle est proche de Tours. »

Dans cette aventure, les enfants du groupe scolaire n’ont pas été
laissés pour compte, le comédien Philippe Ouzounian est venu leur
réciter des contes arméniens le jeudi et le vendredi et Catherine,
l’épouse d’Alain Garabedian qui a avoué avoir appris l’arménien par
amour de la langue et pour désormais communiquer en Arménie, est
venue leur apprendre les rudiments de la langue qui a 38 lettres dans
l’alphabet. En peu de temps ils ont su dire « Tsedesootioon
chenoragal em » : merçi Catherine !

Devant un panneau, un habitant, Jean- Michel Guibout, constate : «
Cela fait plaisir de découvrir un pays dont on parle ! »

– Correspondante NR : Marie-Pierre Richard, tél./fax 02.47.42.92.37.

GRAPHIQUE: Image: Le jour de l’inauguration : Christian Avenet,
maire, Monique Freton, maire adjointe, Jean-Pierre Constanza,
président de Touraine sans frontières, et Alain Garabedian, président
de l’Union des Arméniens du Centre.

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The Economist – The wrongs and rights of minorities

The wrongs and rights of minorities

Mar 17th 2005
>From The Economist print edition

Turkey has yet to face up to its diversity

THE country has moved some way towards meeting the Copenhagen
criteria for EU membership. It has abolished the death penalty,
saving the life of Abdullah Ocalan, the leader of the PKK, an
outlawed Kurdish organisation responsible for a guerrilla war through
much of the 1990s. It has revised the penal code (previously
unchanged since 1926) and reinforced the rights of women. It has
introduced a new law allowing broadcasting in any language, including
Kurdish. And it has brought to an end the random searches that used
to be common, particularly in the east. Now nobody can be searched
without a court order.

The government has also introduced an official policy of zero
tolerance towards torture, for which its police and security forces
became infamous in the West in 1978 with the release of “Midnight
Express”, Alan Parker’s film about a young American imprisoned on
drugs charges. The punishment for torture has been increased, and
sentences may no longer be deferred or converted into fines, as often
happened in the past.

But changing the law is one thing, changing habits is another. A
villager in the east who gets searched by the state police may still
not dare demand to see a court order. The police forces, it is said,
are being retrained, but the Turkish Human Rights Foundation (TIHV)
says that of 918 people treated at its centres in 2004, 337 claimed
they had been tortured. The comparable figures for 2003 were 925 and
340. The TIHV says that even in 2004, “torture was applied
systematically by police, gendarmerie and special units in
interrogation centres.” It claims that 21 people died in
“extra-judicial killings” during the year.

In its October 2004 report on Turkish accession, the European
Commission emphasised the need for further “strengthening and full
implementation of provisions related to the respect of fundamental
freedoms and protection of human rights, including women’s rights,
trade-union rights, minority rights and problems faced by non-Muslim
religious communities.”

Institutionalised intolerance

>From its very beginnings the republic has been confused about
minorities. In his book, “Crescent and Star: Turkey Between Two
Worlds”, Stephen Kinzer, a New York Times journalist, wrote:
“Something about the concept of diversity frightens Turkey’s ruling
elite.” Officially the state recognises only three minorities: those
mentioned in the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne, signed after Ataturk’s army
had thrown out the occupying forces left over from the first world
war. The treaty specifically protects the rights of the Armenian,
Greek and Jewish communities in the country.

In the early years of the republic there were Kurds in parliament,
and the deputy speaker was an Alevi (a religious minority of which
more later). But after Kurdish uprisings in 1925 and 1937 were
brutally suppressed, the republic went into denial about its cultural
diversity. The word “minority” came to refer only to the Lausanne
trio, who were non-Muslims and indeed were increasingly perceived as
non-Turks. If you are a member of a minority in Turkey today you are,
almost by definition, seen as not fully Turkish.

The Kemalists’ narrow brand of nationalism has helped to suppress the
country’s sensitivity to minorities. At Anit Kabir, one of the huge
murals in the museum below Ataturk’s tomb depicts the Greek army
marching through occupied Anatolia in 1919, with a soldier on
horseback about to bayonet a beautiful Turkish girl. In the
background is a Greek cleric brandishing a cross and inciting the
soldiers. The picture caption explains (in English): “During these
massacres the fact that clerics played a provoking role has been
proven by historical evidence.” As anti-clerical as Ataturk was
(whatever the faith), it is hard to believe that he would have
approved of such a message.

Turkey has also found it difficult to face up to the Armenians’
persistent allegation that the massacres of 1915, in the maelstrom of
the first world war, were genocide. Gunduz Aktan, the head of an
Ankara think-tank and a former Turkish ambassador in Athens,
dismisses the claims as “Holocaust envy”.

The most troublesome minority in recent years has been the biggest of
them all, the Kurds. Where minorities are concerned, size does
matter. The Armenians, Greeks and Jews in Turkey today number in the
tens of thousands; the Kurds up to 15m. In the 15-year guerrilla war
in the east between the Turkish army and security forces and Mr
Ocalan’s PKK, some 35,000 civilians and troops were killed. Many more
villagers were displaced (some say perhaps a million), terrorised out
of their homes, often by fellow Kurds, and forced to move to cities
far away. But nobody really knows what proportion of the Kurds the
PKK stands for.

The more extreme Kurds say they want their own
homeland-“Kurdistan”, a word that provokes shivers in Ankara-to
embrace their people living in Iran and Iraq as well as in Turkey.
The more moderate Turkish Kurds want to be allowed to speak their own
language, to be taught it in school, and to hear it broadcast-all of
which they are slowly and grudgingly being granted. DEHAP’s party
congress this year was attended by Mr Ocalan’s sister and Feleknas
Uca, a German member of the European Parliament. Both addressed the
meeting in Kurdish. The Kurds’ cause has received extensive publicity
abroad. Leyla Zana, a member of the Turkish parliament imprisoned for
ten years for speaking in Kurdish in the parliament building, was
released last year after intense pressure from abroad. The Kurdish
Human Rights Project, a London-based charity, has been effective in
bringing Kurdish cases to the Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg.

Panos
Panos

The Kurds are still waiting for better times

Among them are thousands of claims for compensation for loss of
property as a result of the military incursion against the PKK in the
1990s. Such cases, however, can be heard in Strasbourg only if
domestic laws offer no prospect of compensation, and Turkey recently
passed a law “on damages incurred from terrorism and combating
terrorism”. The governor of Tunceli, a town close to mountains where
the PKK was particularly active, said recently that 6,200 people in
his province had applied for compensation under the new law.

The government is also making modest attempts to help Kurds who were
forcibly removed from their villages to return home. Incidents in the
east are now few and far between, even though last summer the PKK,
renamed Kongra-Gel, ended a ceasefire called after Mr Ocalan was
arrested in Kenya in 1999. The organisation said the government had
reneged on a promised amnesty to its members.

Dark forces

So has the Kurdish problem been more or less resolved? Not if you
listen to the many Turks who believe in conspiracy theories. Such
theories thrive in a society that still thinks transparency in public
affairs is an oxymoron. After the tsunami disaster in Asia on
December 26th last year, the American embassy in Ankara felt obliged
to issue an official denial of colourful Turkish newspaper reports
that the wave had been caused by American underwater nuclear
explosions designed to kill large numbers of Muslims.

The conspiracy theory about the Kurds goes something like this: Mr
Ocalan, although held in solitary confinement on a remote island in
the Sea of Marmara, still controls the larger part of the
organisation through visits from his brother, his sister and a
lawyer. Since his captors are said to be able to control what
messages he conveys in return for supplying him with cigarettes and
other favours, why would he end the ceasefire unless dark forces
wished to resurrect the Kurdish uprising? And why ever would they
want to do that? In order to undermine the EU negotiations by
reigniting civil war in the east, concludes the theory.

This may not be as absurd as it sounds. There are powerful groups
inside Turkey who see no advantage in joining the EU, and many Turks
believe in the presence of dark forces inside the state. Anyone who
doubts the idea of an état profond, a deep state-a combination of
military officers, secret-service agents, politicians and businessmen
that pull invisible strings-is silenced with one word: “Susurluk”.
This is the name of a town in western Turkey where in 1996 a Mercedes
car crashed into a lorry, killing three of its four occupants. These
proved to be an eerily ill-assorted bunch: a notorious gangster,
sought by Interpol, and his mistress; a Kurdish MP and clan chief
suspected of renting out his private army to the Turkish authorities
in their fight against the PKK; and a top-ranking police officer who
had been director of the country’s main police academy. What they
were doing together that night may never be known-the sole survivor,
the clan chief, claims to remember nothing-but it is sure to fuel
Turkish conspiracy theories for years to come.

An unsung minority

There is another large minority in Turkey that has received nothing
like as much attention as the Kurds. Most Turks are Sunni Muslims,
whereas most Arabs are Shiites. But there is a group called the Alevi
who have lived in Anatolia for many centuries and who are not Sunni.

Their main prophet, like the Shiites’, is not Mohammed but his
son-in-law, Ali. Most of them maintain that their religion is
separate from Islam, and that it is a purely Anatolian faith based on
Shaman and Zoroastrian beliefs going back 6,000 years. Christian,
Jewish and Islamic influences were added later, though the Alevi
accept that the Islamic influence is the strongest.

Their number is uncertain, because no census in Turkey has asked
about religious affiliation since the early 1920s. At that time the
Alevi accounted for about 35% of the then population of 13m. Today
the best estimate is that they make up about a fifth of a population
that has grown to 70m, their share whittled down by the success of
the republic’s policy of “ignore them and hope they will
assimilate”.

Many of the Alevi are also Kurds. The most predominantly Alevi town
is Tunceli, once a PKK stronghold and a place notably short of
mosques. The Alevi are not keen on them because Ali, their prophet,
was murdered in one. Their houses of prayer are called cemevi.

In the cities they tend to practise their religion in private. Kazim
Genc, an Alevi human-rights lawyer, says he discourages his daughter
from mentioning her faith because Sunni Muslims think Alevi rites
include sexual orgies and incest. Of the AK Party’s 367 members of
parliament, not one has admitted to being an Alevi.

The current government treats the Alevi as merely a cultural group,
not a religious minority. That way it can sidestep its legal
obligation to set aside space in towns and cities for religious
communities’ “places of worship”. When in May 2004 a group of Alevi
in the Istanbul district of Kartal asked for land to be allocated for
a cemevi, the local governor said they were Muslims and Kartal had
enough mosques already. Indeed it has: almost 700 of them. But there
is only one cemevi. The Alevi have taken the case to an Istanbul
court and are awaiting a hearing.

Another case has gone all the way to the Court of Human Rights in
Strasbourg, a journey that the Kurds have taken with some success. It
involves a student who is trying to establish his right to stay away
from compulsory religious classes in school on the ground that they
teach only Sunni Islam. The authorities may have to learn to come to
terms with yet more scary diversity.

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They Do Not Free Frequencies

THEY DO NOT FREE FREQUENCIES

A1+
23-03-2005

The Armenian-Greek LTD «ArmenTel» created obstacles for the second
operator in the communication field – «K-Telecom». According
to Andranik Manoukyan, RA Minister of Connection and Transport,
there are three problems – Enumerating plan, Signing of program,
and freeing of frequencies by «ArmenTel» for «K-Telecom».

The first two problems, according to the Minister, will soon be solved,
and new codes will be put into application. The two companies will
soon sign a program to be able to act equally in the same field.
As for the greatest problem – freeing of frequencies, up to May 15
«ArmenTel» is committed to free about 10 megahertz frequencies,
and up to the end of August – to provide «K-Telecom» with the
frequencies necessary for its activity.

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BAKU: I did my best to win Karabakh war – Azeri ex-defence minister

I did my best to win Karabakh war – Azeri ex-defence minister

Ekho, Baku
23 Mar 05

Azerbaijan’s ex-defence minister, Rahim Qaziyev, who was recently
granted a presidential pardon, has denied any involvement in the fall
of the city of Susa during the Karabakh war in 1992. In his interview
with Ekho newspaper, Qaziyev said that when he was defence minister,
he did his best to set up a well-equipped army and win the war in
Karabakh. The following is an excerpt from A. Hasanov’s report by
Azerbaijani newspaper Ekho on 23 March headlined “They wanted to blame
me for the fall of Susa”. Subheadings have been inserted editorially:

Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev signed a presidential pardon
last Sunday [20 March]. A total of 114 people were set free
under the decree. Fifty-three of the amnestied people were on the
Council of Europe list of “political prisoners”. Among them was the
Azerbaijani ex-defence minister, Rahim Qaziyev, who was sentenced
to the death penalty in May 1995 and then to life imprisonment for
“high treason”. The figure of the ex-defence minister has always
been very interesting. Rahim Qaziyev gave his first interview to Ekho
after he was released.

Qaziyev’s authority in society caused enmity in some people

[Correspondent] How do you explain your release?

[Qaziyev] You’d better put this question not to me, but to the
authorities. I am sure that they would give you a more precise
answer. I can only tell you that my opinions and desires have never
coincided with those of the authorities. Otherwise, they would not
have put me in prison.

[Correspondent] Qaziyev is described in the country as a person who
surrendered Susa [seized by Armenians in 1992]. However, this point
was not included on the list of charges brought against you.

[Qaziyev] Sometimes, the “left” and the “right” are looking for a
specific person to blame for many crimes. I was the one to blame in
that period. Even in Soviet times, I understood that armed clashes
are unavoidable on the path chosen by the country. For this reason,
I channelled all my efforts into finding a sufficient number of
munitions and weapons. The material-technical base of our army was
established as a result of this. This could not go unnoticed. My
standing and authority in society were high in that period. This
could not but cause certain enmity in some people.

Relations with Heydar Aliyev deteriorated

Yes, I disagreed with many actions of the then authorities led by
[ex-President] Abulfaz Elcibay. But unlike many, I expressed my
opinions openly. On the other hand, [ex-President] Heydar Aliyev
was preparing to come to power. At first sight, it could seem that
I consciously expressed my opposition opinions regarding Elcibay in
order to bring Aliyev to power. But this is not the true.

[Correspondent] What sort of relations did you have with Heydar Aliyev?

[Qaziyev] I visited him in Naxcivan before he came to power. Later
on, he even thanked me for having helped him with a number of issues.
However, our relations deteriorated after he came to power. Once Aliyev
invited me to his office. We talked for about an hour. He offered
me the post of deputy prime minister for the military-industrial
complex. I refused this post. Our ties probably deteriorated after
that.

Ex-defence minister not guilty of the loss of Susa

[Correspondent] Who is to blame for the loss of Susa?

[Qaziyev] This is not an easy question. If you are interested, I am
ready to give you the 51 volumes of court materials and video tapes
in which I was accused of surrendering Susa. After you familiarize
yourself with these materials, I am ready to meet you again and answer
all your questions. The only thing I can say now is that they wanted
to blame me for the fall of Susa.

[Correspondent] Who ordered land mines to be cleared from the roads
leading to Susa? Why didn’t the Armenians meet with resistance in
the city?

[Qaziyev] I did not issue any order to clear the roads from the land
mines. Incidentally, certain people tried to speculate with this fact,
but failed. When Susa’s former military commandant, Elbrus Orucov,
was interrogated during the investigation against me, I asked him
some questions. For instance, I asked him whether the general staff
or I had issued an order to clear the land mines from the Xankandi
[Stepanakert]-Susa road.

“No, I had not received any such order from you or from the general
staff,” Orucov answered. I asked him again whether I had ordered him to
withdraw armoured vehicles from Susa or leave the city. Orucov said no.

[Correspondent] What about the TV pictures in which you promise to blow
your brains out if Susa falls? The city fell, why are you still alive?

[Qaziyev] The pictures that were demonstrated on television showed
me only putting my hand to my temple. But for some reason, there is
a voice-over instead of me. In fact, everything was different. This
happened on 16 May 1992. I returned to Baku from Tashkent where I
had participated in a CIS summit. An agreement on the withdrawal of
Soviet troops from Azerbaijan was signed there. After arriving in the
country, I saw some sort of celebrations outside the Milli Maclis
[parliament]. The parliament building was surrounded by soldiers
holding assault rifles. On seeing this, I made a speech. “What are
you celebrating here? Susa has fallen and Lacin is in danger. Who
allowed these soldiers to gather outside the parliament? If they do
not return to their bases by tomorrow, then I’ll just have to come
here and blow my brains out,” this is what I said then.

[Passage omitted: Qaziyev said he prevented Azerbaijan’s military
hardware from being taken away from the country]

[Correspondent] As a former defence minister, can you answer if
everything was done not to lose the war?

[Qaziyev] When I was defence minister, I did my best to win the war.
I can show you a map which indicates the forward positions of our
army when I was defence minister. Our troops had only 14-15 km to
reach Xankandi on a highway.

[Correspondent] And our last question. What are your future plans?

[Qaziyev] For the time being, I am getting used to freedom. I don’t
know how much time it will take. If my motherland needs my help,
then I am ready to serve it loyally.

Healthy Mothers For Healthy Children

HEALTHY MOTHERS FOR HEALTHY CHILDREN

Azat Artsakh – Nagorno Karabakh Republic (NKR)
23 March 05

Last October the Clinic for Women was opened in Stepanakert sponsored
by the Armenian – Canadian union of doctors of Toronto. The clinic
specializing in obstetrics and gynecology operates on a charity
basis. We talked to the head of the clinic Lilia Arzumanian on the
work of the clinic. L.G. “Doctor Arzumanian, the clinic has been
operating for several months now. Did it prove to be a necessity to
the population of the republic?” Lilia Arzumanian “First of all,
I should say that with the type of service it provides the clinic
has a special place in the system of medical institutions as it deals
with the health of girls and women. What we lacked once has become a
reality. I mean the sexual education of girls in particular. Since
the opening day of the clinic about a thousand women consulted us
and were examined. Some of them came again later. They represent
different social classes: students, soldiers, housewives, etc. Our
youngest patient is 12 years old, while the oldest was born in
1919. In this period ten patients turned o us with the problem of
sterility. Five of them have been married for a long time now, two
are already pregnant. The rest are still being examined. The other
branch of services provided by the clinic is diagnosis and treatment of
sexually transmitted diseases. About 400 people infected with venereal
diseases were discovered. There were even cases of gonorrhea. Another
service provided in the clinic is ultrasound examination. Uterine
fibroid tumour (myoma) was found with ten women. We suspected cancer
with three women and sent them abroad. Women visit us not only from
the capital but also from all the regions of the republic. It means
that the work of the clinic is efficient.” L.G. “Are all the services
provided inside the clinic free?” “Generally, the clinic operates on
a charity basis. Everything including examination, ultrasound, advice
of the psychologist, is free of charge. If additional examination is
required outside the clinic, the patients have to cover the expenses
themselves. There are diseases for the treatment of which expensive
medicine is needed, such as, for example, sterility. Nevertheless,
in these cases we provided the patients with certain kinds of
medicine free of charge. Besides, we have distributed about 3000
contraceptives to our patients.” L.G. “Do you cooperate with the
diagnostic center? Does it provide free service to the patients
of the clinic? – L.A. “There is permanent cooperation with the
diagnostic center. However, everything is not in the way it had
been planned. At present we cannot afford to pay for all kinds of
examination in the diagnostic center because some of them are very
expensive. Patients have to pay for diagnostic services.” L.G.
“As far as I remember, the sponsors had promised to provide free
medicine besides free medical care.” L.A. “It is planned. At present
there is no sufficient financing. In the course of time our sponsors
will settle the problem. The sponsors are ten Armenian families from
Toronto. The director of the program is Avetik Poghossian. He is going
to visit Artsakh on May 1. Very soon we will obtain new equipment
for hormonal examination which is very important for us It is a
matter of time. I am sure that Karabakh will also have mammography
equipment after the opening of the new health care complex, which
is also a necessity.” L.G. “Do you have other sponsors?” L.A. “The
honorary president of the foundation of the clinic is the first lady
of the republic Inna Ghukassian who aids us greatly supplying us
with necessary articles. She is in constant communication with us and
visits us if necessary and at holidays. Besides Mrs. Ghukassian, the
speaker of the National Assembly also aids us; he gave a TV set to the
clinic.” L.G. “Is it necessary to make an appointment to see a doctor
in the clinic” L.A. “Examination is by appointment. Women with the
problem of sterility, however, are attended without appointment.” L.G.
“The clinic also deals with sexual education. What steps are taken in
this direction?” L.A. “We have prepared a serioes of lectu res to be
delivered at secondary schools. Our schoolgirls do not have enough
knowledge in sexual education.” L.G. “What would you wish to our
girls and women?” L.A. “I wish them to be healthy.”

LAURA GRIGORIAN. 23-03-2005

The War Prisoners Will Be Returned, Not Exchanged

THE WAR PRISONERS WILL BE RETURNED, NOT EXCHANGED

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23-03-2005

In Tbilisi the meeting of the representatives of the Armenian and
Azerbaijani State Committees of war prisoners and people missing
in action took place. The Armenian side was represented by Michael
Grigoryan, deputy head of the RA State Committee, and Leo Agajanov,
his assistant.

Svetlana Ganushkina and Bernard Klazen, co-heads of the international
working group looking for people missing in action during the Karabakh
conflict also took part in the meeting.

Mechanisms of constructive cooperation were worked out, on the basis
of the principle of returning the prisoners after the corresponding
check-up as soon as possible.

The participants of the meeting consider the exchange of people
immoral, and in future the stress will be put on the return of the
prisoners, not on the exchange.

The sides are ready to give the international organizations and the
relatives of the prisoners the possibility of meeting them, for them
to make sure that there is the possibility for them to return home.

BAKU: Both Baku and Yerevan to benefit from OSCE report, pundit says

Both Baku and Yerevan to benefit from OSCE report, pundit says

Yeni Musavat
Azeri 20 Mar 05

Excerpt from report by Kanan in Azerbaijani newspaper Yeni Musavat on
20 March headlined “The report by the fact-finding mission is part
of a general policy” and subheaded “Rasim Musabayov: “Any negative
or positive outcomes of the document will depend on activities of
the sides””

Azerbaijan is pleased with the OSCE fact-finding mission’s report.
Deputy Foreign Minister Araz Azimov has told a press conference that
the report confirmed that thousands of Armenians are being illegally
settled in the occupied Azerbaijani territories. Azimov said that
Baku would try to put the issue on the agenda of the 60th session of
the UN General Assembly.

Interestingly enough, Armenia is also happy with the report.

[Passage omitted: reported details of Armenian Foreign Ministry
statement]

“The report is in the interests of that country which is using that
effectively,” political scientist Rasim Musabayov said. Musabayov
said the mission confirmed the fact of settlement and called for an
end to that which is in the interests of Baku.

“It has been confirmed that the Armenians are really being settled
in Azerbaijani territories. On the one hand, this will help curb the
process since from now on the Armenians will find it difficult to
continue the settlement process. Azerbaijan will benefit from that.
On the other hand, Baku may raise the issue with the UN General
Assembly which will then condemn the confirmed fact,” Musabayov said.

The political scientist also said that some points raised in the
report were in the interests of the Armenians as well.

“The point the Armenians are happy with is that the fact-finding
mission has said the settlement in the occupied territories has not
been carried out in an organized way. Moreover, the Armenians are
trying to make sure that the fact of settlement becomes the status
quo. They may make use of this in the future to annex parts of our
territories to Karabakh. At the very least, they may ask donors for
funds to resettle their compatriots in other territories,” he said.

[Passage omitted: repetition]

Asked whose interests does the report satisfy best, Musabayov said
it was part of the settlement process.

“One should not assess the document separately from the process. In
fact, this is just a small part of the overall policy. The positive
side is that the artificial settlement of the Armenians has been curbed
in some way. It is no longer possible to continue the settlement in
those territories. Azerbaijan will have evidence in its hands when
raising the issue with international organizations. In any case,
a negative or positive outcome of the document will depend on future
activities,” he said.