ANKARA: Turks In France Self-Critical Over Armenian Bill

TURKS IN FRANCE SELF-CRITICAL OVER ARMENIAN BILL

Zaman, Turkey
Oct 24 2006

Turkish businessmen in France have admitted their failure in handling
the situation with the French parliament’s controversial Armenian
genocide bill.

Murat Ercan, chairman of the Union des Entrepreneurs Franco-Turcs,
a group for Turkish entrepreneurs in France, said that Turkish
businessmen were not concerned with the Armenian bill passed in the
French parliament.

Even the reactions against the law proposal remained weak and
ineffectual, said Ercan, who focused attention on the need for the
formation of a lobby.

Forming a lobby would require organization, said Ercan. "The French
news media did not even ask Turks living here in France to express
their opinions. We have to have full awareness of our position."

There was a lack of coordinated action among Turkish people living
in France against the Armenian bill, said Ercan.

"The parliamentary approval of the Armenian bill came as a blow to
the reputation of Turkish people in France. Even the Turkish reaction
against the law proposal was very weak," said Ercan.

Ercan blamed inexperience and a lack of knowledge on the part of some
Turkish companies, who in turn perhaps harmed all.

Le President =?unknown?q?Azerba=EFdjanais_En?= France En Janvier 200

LE PRESIDENT AZERBAïDJANAIS EN FRANCE EN JANVIER 2007

Agence France Presse
23 octobre 2006 lundi 6:33 PM GMT

Le president de l’Azerbaïdjan Ilham Aliev est attendu pour une visite
d’Etat en France en janvier 2007, a-t-on indique lundi de source
francaise après un entretien entre le chef de la diplomatie francaise
Philippe Douste-Blazy et son homologue azerbaïdjanais Elmar Mamediarov.

M. Douste-Blazy s’est felicite que ce projet de visite s’accompagne
d’un developpement des relations entre les deux pays, en particulier
sur le plan economique, selon un communique du quai d’Orsay.

"Les echanges commerciaux sont en pleine expansion et ont connu un
triplement de leur volume, avec près de 500 millions d’euros en 2005.

Nos entreprises sont bien representees en Azerbaïdjan", selon ce
communique, qui souligne egalement le developpement de la cooperation
dans les domaines culturel et de la securite civile.

Cette rencontre avait lieu a la veille d’une reunion mardi a Paris
entre le chef de la diplomatie azerbaïdjanaise et son homologue
armenien Vartan Oskanian consacree a la recherche d’une solution
negociee au conflit du Nagorny-Karabakh.

Les deux ministres se reuniront avec des representants des trois
pays –France, Etats-Unis, Russie– mandates dans ce dossier par le
"groupe de Minsk", une emanation de l’OSCE (Organisation pour la
securite et la cooperation en Europe).

Une precedente reunion consacree a ce dossier a eu lieu le 6 octobre a
Moscou pour decider du lancement d’un nouveau cycle de negociations,
après l’echec en fevrier d’entretiens organises a Rambouillet, près
de Paris, entre le president armenien Robert Kotcharian et M. Aliev.

Le Nagorny Karabakh est une enclave habitee en majorite par une
population armenienne et qui a fait secession de l’Azerbaïdjan après
un conflit meurtrier au debut des annees 1990. Un cessez-le-feu est
intervenu en 1994, mais la situation reste tendue.

–Boundary_(ID_US7/0/1MIV3nc2/XnnkW7Q)–

Armenia: Ready For Compromise Over Nagorno Karabakh

ARMENIA: PRONTI A UN COMPROMESSO SU NAGORNO KARABAKH

ANSA Notiziario Generale in Italiano
October 18, 2006

INCONTRO SOTTOSEGRETARIO CRUCIANELLI-MINISTRO DIFESA ARMENO

(ANSA) – EREVAN, 18 OTT – "Noi ci consideriamo Europa" e siamo pronti
a un compromesso sul Nagorno Karabakh con l’Azerbaigian: ha esordito
cosi’ Serge Sarkisian, ministro della Difesa e presidente del Consiglio
di Sicurezza nazionale armeno, nel colloquio avuto oggi a Erevan con
il sottosegretario agli Esteri Famiano Crucianelli in visita nel paese.

Sarkisian punta ad un rapporto sempre piu’ stretto non solo con
l’Europa ma anche con la Nato, che vada oltre l’ ‘Individual
partnership action plan’ firmato nel 2005. Erevan e’ pronta a
collaborare con l’alleanza atlantica, e anche bilateralmente con
l’Italia – ha sottolineato il ministro della Difesa – sul fronte
dell’addestramento militare e della riforma dell’esercito.

Apprezzamento, da parte armena, e’ stato espresso per le missioni di
peace-keaping italiane, considerate tra le piu efficaci nel mondo. E
a questo proposito si e’ parlato anche della missione italiana in
Libano dove, tra l’altro, c’e un’importante comunita’ armena.

Disponibilita’ a soluzioni di compromesso, da parte del numero
due armeno, sul territorio conteso del Nagorno Karabakh, enclave
in territorio azzero abitata da armeni che tra il 1988 e il 1994 ha
provocato un conflitto in cui sono morte 35 mila persone. E ha trovato
"interessante" un’ipotesi – di cui ha discusso con Crucianelli – che
potrebbe essere utilizzata: e’ la formula concordata internazionalmente
per il Kosovo, una sorta di indipendenza con sovranita’ limitata
e garanzie internazionali sulla multietnicita’. Anche se, molti dei
paesi con conflitti territoriali "congelati", e quindi anche l’Armenia,
aspettano la fine dell’anno, quando dovra’ essere presa una decisione
per il Kosovo.

Una cosa e’ certa, per il governo armeno e’ meglio un buon
compromesso che la situazione attuale di stallo: il ministro della
Difesa ha difatti espresso a Crucianelli la sua "preoccupazione"
che l’assenza di un compromesso possa aprire la strada a un atto di
forza dell’Azerbaigian. (ANSA).

French Against Turks: Talking About Armenian Genocide

FRENCH AGAINST TURKS: TALKING ABOUT ARMENIAN GENOCIDE
>From the desk of James McConalogue

Brussels Journal, Belgium
Oct 21 2006

Why has the French government now chosen to punish its citizens for
denying the Armenian genocide? On Thursday 12 October, the lower house
of the French Parliament adopted a bill which would provide a jail
sentence and a heavy fine to anyone denying the genocide committed
by Ottoman Turks against the Armenians in 1915. The bill was passed
in the National Assembly by 106 votes to 19. The punishment to be
issued for the denial of the Armenian genocide – set at a maximum
of one year prison term and 45,000 euros (£30,000) fine – is equal
to the punishment already dealt under French law for the denial
of the holocaust. To many states in the international community –
in particular Turkey – this move aggressively counters an already
problematic Turkish law, under which a writer may be prosecuted for
the opposite: proposing that there were a set of atrocities in 1915
that the government should accept as "genocide".

To be clear, according to the UN and many Western scholars, the
Armenian genocide did happen. International authorities do recognise
the event as the Armenian genocide of 1915, a direct case of that
led to the persecution and death of 1.5 million Ottoman Armenians. To
date, the Turkish government and a number of Turkish nationalists do
not recognise those series of events as constituting anything like
"genocide." There is, in this sense, a huge open public space prepared
for discussion.

Yet in this new legislative development, it seems important to ask
why the French government has adopted the bill? Will this bill greatly
disturb Franco-Turk relations? Why have the French chosen to intervene
on the free expression of the Armenian genocide at this peculiar time,
marked by the attempted Turkish EU-membership and the high profile
controversies surrounding the freedom of speech in Turkey? In my view,
there is a decisive background to how the French authorities have
adopted the "denial bill" – but there is a huge vacuum in explaining
why it has asserted the bill at the cost of infuriating Turkey. The
French government has passed a bill which first, not only threatens the
freedom of expression on the Turk-Armenian genocide issue but second,
will possibly damage Euro-Turk political and economic relations
irretrievably.

The adoption of the French "anti-denial bill" was taken as an insult
by the Turkish government. The Turkish had warned France not to pass
the legislation. Furthermore, almost as soon as the bill had been
passed in the National Assembly, the Turkish Foreign Ministry issued
the following statement: "Turkish-French relations, which have been
meticulously developed over the centuries, took a severe blow today
through the irresponsible initiatives of some short-sighted French
politicians, based on unfounded allegations." Given the degree of
disgust experienced by the Turkish authorities, why did the French even
choose to consider the nightmare legislation? The only alleviation
of the tension seems to have come from President Chirac’s subsequent
half-hearted apology to the Turkish Prime Minister – and perhaps the
fact that the bill has yet to pass before the Senate and the President
before it can finally become law.

In several high profile literary controversies, it became immediately
noticeable that the Turkish penal system opposed the free discussion,
publishing and writing on the Armenian genocide. The most influential
of those trials were those of Orhan Pamuk – who has since won the
Nobel Prize for Literature – and Elif Shafak – who courageously gave
birth as her trials were being held. Both authors faced charges
of "insulting Turkishness" under the notorious Article 301 of the
Turkish Penal Code. In late December 2005, Orhan Pamuk was charged
with "insulting Turkishness" after the author had claimed in a Swiss
newspaper that 30,000 Kurds and one million Ottoman Armenians were
killed in Turkey yet nobody in the Turkish population would dare
talk about it. The trial was dismissed by the Turkish Ministry of
Justice at the beginning of 2006. Later this year, author of Bastard
of Istanbul, Elif Shafak, also faced charges of "insulting Turkishness"
under the antediluvian legislation. Subsequent to an earlier dismissal
in the year, the seventh High Criminal Court had revived the charges
made by Kemal Kerincsiz’s nationalist jurist group, ‘The Unity of
Jurists.’ Fortunately, in the final week of September, Shafak was
immediately acquitted – but not without significant intimidation of
her novel-writing which delved into the dialogues of the 1915 genocide.

The suppression of free expression in Turkey has occurred for writers
and journalists such as Pamuk and Shafak because of the notorious
Article 301 of the Turkish Penal Code, prohibiting "insulting
Turkishness". Ironically, the troubled legislation was passed in
2005 as a measure of bringing Turkish law into alignment with the
Copenhagen criteria of the European Union. After the Shafak trial,
the EU Commission spokesperson, Krisztina Nagy, insisted that Article
301 "continues to pose a significant threat to freedom of expression
in Turkey and all those who express a non-violent opinion." That,
in many respects, reflects the majority-opinion of the EU.

Then, more recently, it became visible that the Turkish genocide
issue was not only angering the French government but it was an
identifiable issue upon which the French were pushing for Turkish
EU-access membership to be granted – i.e. ‘the Turkish should be
pushed to admit the Armenian genocide, and if they refuse, then they
shall forfeit a place as an EU-member state’. The opposing French
Socialist Party – which pushed through the legislation – held that
the bill protects and rewards the Armenians in exile from a country
that still refuses to accept the atrocity. Then, on 30 September,
in a visit to Yerevan, the French President confirmed his position:
"Should Turkey recognize the genocide of Armenia to join the EU? … I
believe so. Each country grows by acknowledging the dramas and errors
of its past. … Can one say that Germany which has deeply acknowledged
the holocaust, has as a result lost credit? It has grown."

I subsequently reported on how France had been left alone on this
position since other EU-member states seemed ready to treat Turkey
softly on this issue – I also speculated, quite rightly, that
this would have detrimental diplomatic relations with the Turkish
government, by arguing: "It might also be thought that Chirac
could not afford to push the condition too far, since it may bring
substantial damage to Franco-Turk relations before Turkey has even
begun to attempt its progress towards European harmonization." Now,
that problematic tension has evolved, it is clear enough for us
all to see the aggravation caused, illustrating both bilateral and
multilateral tensions.

The various European institutions, eager not to be seen as possessing
double-standards, have been as strong in their condemnations of
France’s new bill as they have been of Turkey’s Article 301 in the
past. Both pieces of legislation condemn the freedom of discussion on
the 1915 genocide issue; in opposition, the respective governments
only recognise the acceptance of the genocide (France) or the
rejection of it (Turkey). EU Enlargement commissioner, Olli Rehn,
has issued many warnings to Turkey over the literary controversies for
"insulting Turkishness" but on 9 October, he turned to France to issue
a similar warning: "…The French law on the Armenian genocide is of
course a matter for French lawmakers, but there is a lot at stake for
the European Union as well, and the decision may have very serious
consequences for EU-Turkey relations … This [legislation] would
put in danger the efforts of all those in Turkey – intellectuals,
historians, academics, authors – who truly want to develop an open
and serious debate without taboos and for the sake of freedom of
expression." That is to say, in a nutshell, that the predicament of
problematic tensions is characterised by a removal of free expression
on a very pertinent political issue as well as the damage to Turkey’s
future relations in Europe.

The most flawed of all the French proponents of the bill was French
MEP, Patrick Gaubert, claiming that "Europe is a continent where
freedom of speech is guaranteed in an extraordinary manner. But free
speech ends when the memories of a people are abused and their feelings
are suffering from lies." Obviously, Gaubert needs to radically revise
his reviews since that is not the accepted view of defending free
expression and contrary of his opinion, it is more important to talk
about sensitive issues such as "genocide" than to lock people up for
them. Unfortunately for France, it is widely recognised that one of the
most fundamental defences of free expression in relation to a diversity
of religious and political doctrines derives not from a French source
but from one of Britain’s great philosopher’s, John Stuart Mill. In
the doctrine of John Stuart Mill’s On Liberty, published in 1859,
the right to freedom of expression and its conditions are stated
concisely and transparently.

The most fundamental principle of a freely operating liberal society
is the right to the "freedom of opinion." The only exception in
which Mill could conceive that this freedom might be limited was if
it were to impose severe physical harm onto others – and only under
very rare conditions could this exception be true. As a result,
the French government’s intervention into a literary controversy
should not have been at all possible. In France’s peculiar rationale,
it somehow thought that the socialist cause, with the backing of
the free vote from the ruling Union for a Popular Movement (UMP),
was enough to bar free expression. For the rest of Europe, that is
not reason enough to bar the fundamental right to free expression. Nor
does the new French reasoning seem reasonable enough to destroy further
diplomatic relations with Turkey – whether it enters the EU or not.

— Boundary_(ID_HMkRoH70E4VfIG6JJ/jtOw)–

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1585

Armenia-EU coop committee to convene its reguar session on Oct 25 in

ARMENIA-EU COOPERATION COMMITTEE TO CONVENE ITS REGULAR SESSION ON
OCTOBER 25 IN BRUSSELS

Arka News Agency, Armenia
Oct 19 2006

YEREVAN, October 19. /ARKA/.Armenia-EU Cooperation Committee is to
convene its regular session on October 25 in Brussels, Armenian Trade
and Economic Development Minister Karen Chshmarityan said on Thursday.

"As co-chair of the committee, I intend to discuss first-priority
areas of cooperation, further work and schedule and presentation of
further programs", he said.

Chshmarityan also said that Armenian President Robert Kocharyan gave
task to all ministers to submit own programs as part of EU’s New
Neighborhood policy. M.V.-0–

Tehran: Armenian, Jewish minorities ready to attend Qods Day rallies

Armenian, Jewish minorities ready to attend Qods Day rallies

IRNA, Iran
Oct 19 2006

Tehran, Oct 19, IRNA — The representative of the Armenian minority
in Isfahan province in the Islamic Consultative Assembly (Majlis)
here Thursday voiced readiness of all Iranian Armenians to attend the
Qods Day rallies scheduled for the last Friday (tomorrow) of the holy
fasting month of Ramadan.

Robert Beglarian told IRNA that Qods Day is a day to demonstrate
support of all religions for holy Qods.

Holy Qods belongs to all religions and, therefore, the Armenian
minority will participate in the Friday rallies to express its hatred
for the criminal Zionist regime, he added.

Members of the Armenian minority will express their support for the
oppressed Palestinians by participating in the rallies, Beglarian
reiterated.

In a related development, the Jewish community in a statement on
Wednesday called on all Jews to participate in the Qods Day rallies.

Officials of the community urged all Iranian Jews to support the
rights of the Palestinian nation to live in peace and to coexist with
members of other religious minorities.

The late founder of the Islamic Republic, Imam Khomeini, set aside
the last Friday of the holy fasting month of Ramadan as Qods Day to
remind the world of the decades of Israeli oppression against the
innocent and defenseless Palestinian nation.

On this day, Muslims and non-Muslims in huge numbers all over the
world come out to renew their support for the Palestinians and their
resistance against the cruel and illegal Israeli occupation.

Armenian independent MP called arrested Georgian citizen a political

ARMENIAN INDEPENDENT MP CALLED ARRESTED GEORGIAN CITIZEN A POLITICAL PRISONER

ARMINFO News Agency
October 19, 2006 Thursday

Amayak Hovhannisyan, independent MP of National Assembly of Armenia
(NAA), said at the meeting with journalists that Vahagn Chakhalyan,
member of presidium of Georgian democratic bloc ‘United Javahkh’,
is a political prisoner and not an executive of somebody’s orders.

A. Hovhannisyan said that he was denied meeting with the imprisoned
even after interference of Tigran Torosyan, speaker of NAA. Vahagn
Chakhalyan is kept in the Erevan-Center penitentiary. V. Chakhalyan
said that he would claim resignation of David Harutyunyan, Minister
of Justice of RA, because it was he who ordered the denial of the
meeting with A. Hovhannisyan.

Later, 15 MPs of NAA predominantly from ‘Justice’ party in opposition
signed a statement demanding law enforcement bodies to investigate
the Oct 10 attack on activists of the democratic bloc ‘United
Javahkh’. They also demand that either Vahagn Chakhalyan be released
or his preventive punishment be amended. Apart from the opposition
MPs, the document was also signed by – Armen Ashotyan, MP of the
‘Republican’ party of the governing coalition, as well as Raffic
Petrosyan, Head of the NAA Commission on State-Legislative Issues.

ANKARA: ‘I Hope The French Come To Their Senses’

‘I HOPE THE FRENCH COME TO THEIR SENSES’

The New Anatolian
Oct 18 2006

Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul yesterday assured Parliament that
Turkey would take all effective measures, including recourse to high
international courts, to combat the French bill that penalizes the
denial of Armenian "genocide."

The declaration of Gul, his first to Parliament since France’s General
Assembly passed the law last week, indicated that Turkey would not
"forget" or "let go" if the bill, which still needs to go through
Senate and be ratified by French president, were enacted.

"I hope that the French come to their senses," said Gul.

He also assured that the government would use all the tools it has in
its hands. "We will use all our rights from international accords. We
are already doing a great deal of preliminary work. Timing is, of
course, another question. We are fully benefiting from the experience
of our legal experts and diplomats," he said.

"We hope that this bill will be left behind without being enacted,"
said Gul. "I hope that they also take into account the international
pressure."

"If this law is enacted, the wounds could not be repaired. It would
be the political, economic and security-related ties which would
receive a large blow," he said.

He also praised Turkish society, saying; "Racism that would be seen
in various countries, intolerance, has never been seen in Turkey. The
basis of our national culture is tolerance," he said.

Main opposition Republican People’s Party leader Deniz Baykal, at
his party’s group meeting, offered a four-phase strategy to show a
response to France.

According to the CHP leader, Turkey should bring the case to
the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR), asking the court to
suspend France’s membership in the Council of Europe. The country
also should go to the European Court of Justice, asking the body to
impose sanctions on France and to say the bill violated the European
Union acquis.

The third pillar of Baykal’s strategy was mostly about Turkish citizens
living in France. He proposed organized action against the law as a
response, which would also keep the matter in the headlines.

His last point was economic, Baykal said that Turkey should reconsider
its economic transactions with France. However, he didn’t call boycott
a must.

He said that accusing a people of having committed genocide is not
a simple allegation, and that nobody has right to accuse Turkey
of having done so. He also cited anti-France remarks from several
European countries, and said that truth cannot be hidden.

He also put emphasis on the security of the Armenians living in Turkey
and called on people no to feel hostility towards them for a mistake
made by France.

Motherland Party (ANAVATAN) leader Erkan Mumcu’s focus was what he
called Turkey’s silence on the French bill, for which he criticized
the government.

He lashed out at the government for remarks urging the people to rule
out economic sanctions against France, and said that since France
had insulted Turkey, it should be responded to in kind.

Greenway Board Wants Horticultural Society Out

GREENWAY BOARD WANTS HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY OUT
By Thomas C. Palmer Jr., Globe Staff

Boston Globe, MA
Oct 19 2006

Panel cites group’s lack of progress on garden

The board created to run the Rose Fitzgerald Kennedy Greenway
Conservancy in downtown Boston wants the Massachusetts Horticultural
Society stripped of its right to occupy three prime blocks of the
new parkland near South Station.

Frustrated by lack of progress on the 30 acres of parks and
cultural institutions intended to replace the old Central Artery,
the conservancy board made that request yesterday to the Massachusetts
Turnpike Authority, which is running the Greenway project as part of
the Big Dig.

It is one of several recommendations designed to speed development
and hasten the conservancy’s control over the corridor.

Peter Meade, chairman of the conservancy’s board, acknowledged to
Turnpike board members that eliminating the horticultural society
could be controversial. But, he said, the society is financially
"not prepared to build a significant Garden Under Glass, which was
the reason for their designation in the first place."

The Massachusetts Horticultural Society has indeed struggled
financially, but recently has shown signs of stabilizing under new
leadership. Thomas Herrera-Mishler, the society’s executive director ,
reacted forcefully to the recommendation, saying he was "quite puzzled
by Peter Meade and the Conservancy’s whole approach. "

"Mass. Hort has had three solid years of financial performance based
on audited reports," he said.

The move to "de-designate" the horticultural society for the blocks
between the Evelyn Moakley Bridge and Summer Street comes after it
tried and failed for years to deliver on its plan for a "winter garden"
on the Greenway.

Because that vision was incorporated into state environmental
approvals granted about 15 years ago, the Turnpike Authority —
if it accepts the conservancy’s recommendation — would have to
undergo a potentially lengthy regulatory process to win approval of
the horticultural society’s removal.

Recently the society has geared up again and gained support for its
Greenway mission — though that has been scaled back to a plan for
gardens and a modest educational center. Those are not scheduled to
be completed until 2008.

Meade acknowledged the horticultural society "does not have nothing
to bring to the table." The conservancy envisions working with the
society on horticultural issues the length of the Greenway.

Mayor Thomas M. Menino, however, sided with the conservancy. "Mass.
Hort has been out there for 10 years trying to do something, and they
haven’t done a thing," he said. " We can’t live with all these false
and broken promises."

The conservancy designated one of its board members, Edwin Schlossberg,
husband of Caroline Kennedy Schlossberg and grandson-in-law of Rose
Kennedy, to head a committee that would determine the future of the
three blocks. The parks are scheduled to be completed by the end of
summer next year .

The conservancy also recommended that other institutions with plans
to build on Greenway development blocks be given deadlines for
architectural and financial plans.

The YMCA of Greater Boston, which gave up on trying to build a facility
and community center on a North End block because of the high cost,
would have until the end of this year to reconsider. The Boston
Museum Project, the New Center for Arts and Culture, and the Harbor
Island Pavilion, designated for other blocks, would have until July
to submit plans.

Other recommendations in the 50-page report include:

Scrapping a tentative plan for a Greenway park commemorating the
Armenian Genocide of 1915, and placing it somewhere else in Boston.

Speeding up designation of the conservancy as "the single organization"
with authority for the whole Greenway — both parks and development
blocks — and responsibility for its maintenance.

Employing organic landscape management techniques in the corridor.

Turnpike Authority chairman John Cogliano said the board would take
the report and recommendations under advisement. Mary Z. Connaughton
and other board members said they want to be fair to all organizations
working on Greenway projects.

Opposition Leader Makes Grave Forecasts

OPPOSITION LEADER MAKES GRAVE FORECASTS

Panorama.am
15:36 19/10/06

"Highly explosive situation is created in the region and we will not go
a lot forward with our present foreign policy. Concrete solutions are
required," Hohvhannes Hovhannisyan, chairman of Armenian Progressive,
Liberal Party, said. "No one needs Armenia with its present status. The
only thing left to be done is to become a region of Russia," he told
a press conference today.

He said the situation is explosive also due to Russian-Georgian
conflict because of which we will spoil relations both with Russians
and Georgians. He said Armenia’s policy is not flexible. Hovhannisyan’s
grave forecasts said Georgia will eventually close its railway and
automobile routs for Armenia.

Hovhannisyan said free and fair elections are a solution to the
situation. "Authorities elected in faked elections will always remain
the slave of Russian leadership," he said.

Speaking about Nagorno Karabakh conflict regulation, he said Armenia
will have to hand over 7 regions against the status of Nagorno
Karabakh. Asked by a reporter how the public will react to such
concession in case when it called All Armenian National Movement (HHSh)
leadership betrayers when they wanted to hand over 3 regions in 1997,
Hovhannisyan said, "It is the problem of the society."