Argentinean FM Says Karabakh Conflict Should Have Peaceful Resolutio

13:44 21/05/2010


Argentina is guided by the peaceful resolution of Nagorno-Karabakh
conflict, Argentina’s FM Jorge Taina declared at news conference
in Yerevan. "The conflict should be settled through peaceful
negotiations. That is the only way and Armenia agrees with that point,"
Argentinean official said.

Argentinean official stated it’s important to have negotiations
directed to the peaceful resolution of the conflict.

BAKU: Azerbaijan Should Change Its Policy On Diaspora

Leyla Tagiyeva News.Az
May 21 2010

News.Az interviews Tofig Hajili, co-chair of Azeriunited, organization
of the Dutch Azerbaijanis.

I know that you have voiced your disagreement with some statements of
Irada Ulukhanly, chairman of the Dutch Society "For single, undivided
and democratic Azerbaijan", posted on our website. What has caused
your disagreement?

I would like to note that there is a great difference between
Azerbaijani organizations and diaspora organizations in Holland. In
particular, their first category was created by the compatriots, that
is without the support of the State Diaspora Committee. They are the
only ones who are dealing with the patriotically positive propaganda
of Azerbaijan. Meanwhile, the second category organizations usually do
not deal with any serious lobbyist affairs, as they are working only
for public and for getting big grants from the State Committee. These
are they who can often be met in the reports of the newspapers and
television, however, almost everything that they say does not meet
the reality.

Returning to the question, I would admit that I cannot specify the
group that Ulukhanly’s organization belongs to, since it is the first
time I hear about it. But judging by her words, her organization
belongs to the second category I have indicated.

As for disagreement with some of her statements, we do not agree
that the organizations are mostly active in the north of Holland. I
think Irada khanum or mistaken in geographical concepts or she does
not know what she is talking about.

Irada khanum is mistaken saying that everyone is passive here,
that they are only active in the north (there is only one official
organization in the north) and that there is not a single book
in English, not speaking of Dutch which means they are out of the
question. Below, I will explain the whole structure and activeness
in Neatherlands.

The main organization which is quite independent there is TurkAzNed
which locates in Hague, Den Haag, city of parliament, international
court etc locates in the south of Holland. The memorial to Khojaly
which was also organized by TurkAzNed, which has been functioning
for already 20 years, is also here. The organization is created by
Azerbaijanis from Turkey, Igdir and it is regulated by 90% by Igdir
residents. This is the only organization which has been celebrating
all holidays of Azerbaijan, propagating throughout Holland and even
had people on the level of the parliament who partake in almost all
holidays and meetings.

Thanks to the same people we received permission for the establishment
of the monument to Khojaly. The organization also advocates through
sport. Azerbaijanis from Holland play football in Holland and Belgium
and teach Dutch in the building of the organization for integration.

As you have said, earlier all well-known holidays as well as black days
of our history are held by this organization every year. In addition,
different other meetings and protests are held. They have recently
gathered for a meeting outside the parliament of Holland against
the request of Armenians to set a monument to "Armenian genocide"
in the center of the city.

Could you please tell something about the activity of the Azeri United
Foundation and its main directions?

Azerunited was created by Ali Hajili and Tofig Hajili in Rotterdam
in 2005. Azeriunited started its activity in 2000. At that time
Azeriunited was the only Azerbaijani portal at (the
website is not ours now). Initially, it was dealing only with the
online propaganda, we sent different leaflets by emails, participated
in most international forums, dealing with positive propaganda of
Azerbaijan. After the official registration in 2005, we continued our
activity in the Internet and added physical activeness. We distributed
information packages, in these packages we distributed information
about tourism in Azerbaijan, about the beauty of the country, etc,
as well as about Khojaly, Garabag, refugees and so on. At the same
time, we took part in all official meetings, organizations that are
connected with Azerbaijan at our own expenses. Now our organization
consists of about twenty Azerbaijanis, we have no office, we are
working online in the internet and organize different informative
meetings, unless we have enough funds for this.

Two years ago after seven months of working we could publish the first
and the only book about Azerbaijan on the highest level. The book was
prepared in cooperation with the Dutch and it is still sold in almost
every shop throughout Europe. The book partially consists of our
receipts and the second part is about Azerbaijan, culture, history,
traditions, photos etc. This book is written in Dutch. The book was
also sent free of charge to the officials of the parliament, as well
as several universities and many other important persons. We are still
settling them and distributing them free of charge where necessary.

Thus, I can disappoint Irada khanum, organizations like ours are
engaged in business and have even written a book. And if only we knew
her address, we would be happy to send her a couple of samples. By
the way, I regret that neither the Azerbaijani embassy nor the State
Diaspora Committee have demonstrated the due interest to this book
or helped either financially in its publication or distribution.

Azerinited has demonstrated itself towards the Azerbaijani people. We
have proven quite patriotic and having competence to deal with this
issue. The effect of our long-year activity is clear. Our aim now
is to release more physical editions in European languages, physical
editions mean books, films, brochures, magazines and so on. But now
we have problems with finances, as our state does not support us and
we can only hope for ourselves.

It is not a secret that Armenians have not only falsified history but
also misappropriate the works of Azerbaijani culture, art and cuisine.

Is this problem actual in Holland?

Holland does not have this problem at all, since Armenians do not work
like we do. Armenians work in secret but once in several years they
suddenly attain serious results. Speaking about the Armenian lobby, I
would like to note that this is a lie, there is no lobby at all, which
is working days and nights. But they have the support of their state,
while we do not have it. For example, Armenians pay everything to the
lobby, they have a subscription system, every Armenia give a monthly
fee and make serious projects, for example they gain recognition of
genocide in the parliament, they have even managed to write something
about Armenia and genocide to the Dutch school textbooks. Naturally,
this requires the support of the state and finances and Armenians get
this. We hold concerts, dance and sing every 3-4 month, but they do
not act like this, nothing is heard about them, while their business
is advancing. Armenians make films and broadcast them on Dutch TV,
they prepare dolma and then say with the pride that this is their
national Armenian meal, while Azerbaijani mugam is perform on this
background also in Armenian. In the past few years Armenians have
released several films that have been distributed in Europe in several
European languages.

Are our compatriots active in the sociopolitical life of Holland and
which are the main problems on this way?

No, there is no political activeness and there are no problems on this
way, as there are no sufficient qualified Azerbaijanis. Azerbaijanis
in Holland live by the same rules like in Azerbaijan. The principle of
our compatriots is "to get something for free, not to attend school
and drive mercedes". Most of them have come here for social support,
90% of all get allowances after receiving documents, they do not learn
the language, do not attend schools. In addition, 80% of those whom
I know have left school before finishing and started working on the
markets. Moreover, there is a small number of Azerbaijanis here. There
are many Turks that are smart, they try to gain something and they
achieve their goals. Turks even have a minister in the parliament,
for example, now the Minister of Emigration and Justice is a Turkish
woman Albayrak by surname. But here we can find positive things too,
for example a dentist of the minister is our Azerbaijani from Baku.

As far as I know, the leader of the Talish separatist movement Alikram
Humbarov migrated to Holland after serving his prison in Azerbaijan
and continues the anti-Azerbaijani activity. What can you say about it?

There is an opinion that Alikram Humbatov was just used in smeary
political games. I am not a politician and I do not want to get
involved. I am doing everything possible to present our homeland in a
positive light to the world. But I would like to note that our people
from Azeriunited visit the monument to Khojaly in Hague every week
and every time when someone from among ours comes to the memorial
to clean the area around it and sit down there, they see Alikram,
who takes care of the memorial. He waters flowers around, cleans the
dust and so on. We have not seen anyone except us and Alikram near
this monument in the past three years. Igdir Azerbaijanis come here
on the day of Khojaly, maximum 5 Azerbaijanis from Azerbaijan come
here. This is a shame.

What do you think should be done for the better information of ordinary
Dutch about Azerbaijan and the problems facing the country?

It is primarily necessary to appoint a group of people to the
State Diaspora Committee that are currently connected with existing
organizations to raise effectiveness of use of funds for the diaspora
needs. Further, it is necessary to invest into physical editions
and media, books, TV, radio, magazines and improve tourism potential
for Azerbaijan to be viewed as a tourism country where one can see
historical and cultural wealth. Now we do not see it all. There are
just a couple of tourism firms who answer phone calls half-heartedly.

Then the state must invest in all organizations regardless of their
personal political views. In the end, we all want to help Azerbaijan
and Azerbaijan must recognize Khojaly as genocide of Azerbaijani
people. Thus, we will be able to put pressure on Armenians. It will
be very difficult without it.

Armenians Shifting To 1 Child Family Model: Rubik Avagyan


"Five years ago I was saying that a shift is being made from the
1-2-baby family model. Today I cannot even insist on that. It seems
that the 1-child family model has started to be fixed. This will be
too bad. If this eventually becomes fixed by the people, then nothing
will be of help," demographic scientist Rubik Eganyan said at a press
conference today in response to’s question about the situation
with the average Armenian family.

According to Eganyan today the state should encourage not the birth
of the third but of the second child in the family.

"Here we should at least try to keep the wealth [meaning the tradition]
of [having] the second child. If we do not succeed in it, there will
always be families that will have the third, the fourth child, but it
will not be serious to solve demographic problems at their expense,"
said Eganyan.

According to the data provided by Eganyan about 50-55% of children
born are the first ones in the family. It is about the 30% of the
population that has the second child, while the families that have
the third child, make a little less than 10% of the population.

RA Minister Of Education And Science And European Diplomats Conduct


May 19, 2010 – 13:37 AMT 08:37 GMT

Armenian Minister of Education and Science Armen Ashotyan said that
the integration into Europe is not only a priority of Armenia’s
foreign policy, but also is an opportunity to get acquainted with
European values.

"We wonder how Armenian school students imagine Europe, the system of
European values and Armenia’s integration into Europe," the Minister
told journalists on May 19.

On May 19, Armen Ashotyan, head of the RA parliamentary commission
on European integration Naira Zohrabyan and head of the European
Commission Delegation to Armenia, Ambassador Raul de Luzenberger
visited Yerevan secondary school #190 to conduct a demo lesson on
Europe, a joint initiative of the RA Ministry of Education and Science
and the parliamentary committee on European integration.

Mr. Raul de Luzenberger noted for his part that the event will signify
the start of teaching lessons dedicated to Europe in Armenian schools.

"People complain of unawareness about the European Union. This is
a good initiative, which will contribute to Armenia’s harmonization
with Europe," he said.

Varuzhan Hakobyan Loses Game To Alexander Onischuk At U.S. Chess Cha


May 19, 2010 – 14:51 AMT 09:51 GMT

Armenian grandmaster Varuzhan Hakobyan lost a game to Alexander
Onischuk in the 5th round of the U.S. Chess Championship going on in
Saint Louis.

Hakobyan is currently the 7th with 3 points. Melikset Khachiyan and
Levon Altunyan come 21st and 23rd respectively.

In the 6th round, Varuzhan Hakobyan will play vs. Alex Yermolinsky,
Melikset Khachiyan will rival Dmitry Gurevich while Levon Altunyan
will match against Robert Hess.

Erdogan: It Is Impossible To Make Decision On Protocols In Turkey’S


2010-05-18 12:56:00

ArmInfo. Armenian-Turkish Protocols have been currently frozen just
by Armenia, Prime Minister of Turkey Recep Tayyip Erdogan said
at a press-conference in Baku when asked about the future of the
Armenian-Turkish Protocols.

"Our parliament has been entrusted with this work. However, our
formulation regarding the Protocols is very open and clear. What
does it imply? We said that no positive decision- making by Turkey’s
National Assembly is possible without solution of the Karabakh problem
between Armenia and Azerbaijan. It is very open and clear. We used to
say about it and explained it to all the three cochairmen of the Minsk
Group. They must be more active in this direction and explain Armenia
the importance of this issue. For this purpose, we actively included
the Madrid issue, as well as other issues in the agenda. However,
we do not see Armenia’s sensible approach to this issue so far. As
you know, there is no progress despite the fact that four months have
passed after Sochi meeting", AzerTag quoted Erdogan.

Sharmazanov Says Ilham Aliyev’s Statement Incongruous


"The sultan having gained power on father-to-son basis once again
baffles everyone with his incongruous and ungrounded statements,"
Armenian MP, ARP spokesman Eduard Sharmazanov told
referring to Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev’s statement made at
a joint press conference with Turkish PM Erdogan in Baku. recalls that Erdogan said at the joint press conference
with Aliyev in Baku that Azerbaijan approved Minsk Group recommendation
made at their previous meeting, yet official Yerevan hasn’t given
any answer. Ilham Aliyev said he wanted official Yerevan to approve
MG recommendation, too.

"If the experts’ views do not serve as basis for him, let the view
of the OSCE MG Co-Chairs do, since they have several times stated
that there are no updated Madrid principles, these are just working
recommendations. There is Madrid document and the talks are held
basing on it," Sharmazanov said.

According to him, as compared to Azerbaijan, the Armenian side has
clearly highlighted its further steps and as compared to Azerbaijan’s
sultan, the Armenian President acts in accordance with said-done

E. Sharmazanov said, it’s due to Armenia’s active efforts that in
Athens the OSCE MG Co-Chairs made the well-known statement on three
principles (national self-determination, territorial integrity,
non-use of force) and Azerbaijan has signed under it. As the Armenian
MP stated, unfortunately, Azerbaijan’s bellicose statements followed
immediately after this.

"Thus, Azerbaijan proved once again that its word doesn’t cost
a penny, since it signs the Athens document and then speaks from
the positions of force. Both Aliyev’s and Erdogan’s statement as if
Azerbaijan is acting from constructive positions is at least amazing,"
ARP spokesman said.

"It’s Azerbaijan that should withdraw is forces from Martakert and
Shahumyan regions," Sharmazanov said, adding that only after this
the sides can agree on concessions.

Specially for them let us recall that Nagorno-Karabakh status is the
cornerstone of the conflict and it cannot be part of Azerbaijan.

Moreover, I would advise, would urge Mr. Aliyev to follow the upcoming
parliamentary elections in Nagorno-Karabakh since they are several
times more democratic than those in Azerbaijan and let Nagorno-Karabakh
serve for them as an example for Azerbaijan to become as democratic
and not to make ridiculous or incongruous statements.

Azerbaijan’s President Due Traveling To Turkey On June 7-8


Turkey’s PM Tayip Erdogan declared in Baku that the grounds of senior
military cooperation council between Azerbaijan and Turkey will be
founded on June 7-8 in the frames of Aliyev’s Ankara visit, Turkish
Zaman reported. The mission of the council is to contribute to the
economic cooperation between the two states.

According to the source, Erdogan approved Ankara’s disposition that
Armenian-Turkish protocols can’t be ratified in Turkish Mejlis unless
Nagorno-Karabakh conflict resolution.

Erdogan traveled to Georgia from Baku and had a meeting with Georgia’s
President in Batumi and attended the official opening of "Sheraton
Batum" hotel.

La Turquie va donner son feu vert a South Stream en novembre

La Turquie va donner son feu vert à South Stream en novembre, selon Moscou


samedi15 mai 2010, par Stéphane/armenews

La Turquie va autoriser la construction du gazoduc russo-italien South
Stream dans sa zone économique, sous la Mer noire, en novembre, a
indiqué vendredi le vice-premier ministre russe Igor Setchine.

"Le Premier ministre (turc Recep Tayyip) Erdogan a dit +nous
soutenons+ (le projet) et en novembre les documents nécessaires
autorisant le début de la construction dans la zone économique turque
seront donnés", a déclaré M. Setchine, cité par les agences russes.

Le président russe Dimitri Medvedev a effectué une visite en Turquie
mardi et mercredi.

South Stream, projet de gazoduc russo-italien destiné à acheminer du
gaz russe vers l’Italie et la Grèce sous la mer Noire en évitant
l’Ukraine, est considéré comme le concurrent du projet européen de
gazoduc Nabucco qui doit contourner la Russie.

En 2009, Ankara a autorisé Moscou à entreprendre les études pour
réaliser ce projet. Début 2010, le Premier ministre russe Vladimir
Poutine s’est dit sûr qu’Ankara donnerait son feu vert cette année à
la construction.

La semaine dernière, le quotidien Kommersant a rapporté que le géant
russe Gazprom avait accepté d’assouplir nettement les clauses du
contrat de livraisons de gaz à la Turquie pour obtenir en échange un
feu vert à la construction du gazoduc.

U.S. State Department: Daily Press Briefing: QUESTION: Like Armenian

Philip J. Crowley

May 13, 2010

Assistant Secretary Daily Press Briefing

Washington, DC


Secretary Clinton’s Meeting With Afghan Female Ministers / Supporting
Women Leadership Secretary Clinton at U.S. Institute of Peace /
Conversation with President Karzai Readout of Secretary Clinton’s
Call with Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoglu U.S. – China Human
Rights Dialogue is Underway / Dialogue Led By Assistant Secretary for
Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor Mike Posner and Chinese Ministry of
Foreign Affairs Director General for International Organizations Chen
Xu Russian Adoptions USAID Administrator Raj Shah in Nairobi / Will
Also Travel to Sudan Assistant Secretary Phil Gordon in Macedonia/ Will
Discuss Bilateral Issues U.S. Has Joined The Alliance of Civilizations


Human Rights Dialogue Underway / Internet Freedom / Google


Secretary Clinton Conversation With Turkish Foreign Minister Davutoglu
regarding Iran Tehran Research Reactor / Uranium Enrichment


Secretary Clinton to Meet With British Foreign Minister Hague Tomorrow


High Level Meeting with South Korean Officials Tomorrow/Expect to
Discuss Regional Security Issues


Under Secretary Burns and Assistant Secretary Shapiro Meeting with
the Tunisian Defense Minister


Demonstrations In Thailand


Russian Adoption Agreement/U.S. Interagency Team Continues to Meet
with Russian Counterparts in Moscow


Meetings Between U.S. And Japan


Chile Investigation


12:18 p.m. EDT

MR. CROWLEY: Okay, the Secretary – and I know we’re a little pressed
for time – the Secretary will be meeting with some Afghan female
ministers this afternoon, underscoring our support for Afghan women.

Our goals are to improve the security of women in institutions that
serves women, supporting women’s leadership in the public and private
sectors, promoting women’s access to formal and informal justice,
enforcing existing law and constitutional rights of women, improving
women and girls’ access to education and health care, strengthening and
expanding economic development opportunity for women, especially in
agriculture, and increasing women’s political participation. And I’m
sure she will talk to them about reintegration and stress that Afghan
women’s rights will not be sacrificed as reintegration efforts move
forward and that there is a commitment to have at least 25 percent
of the membership of the upcoming peace jirga be women.

QUESTION: How many ministers is that? That she’s meeting with?

MR. CROWLEY: She’ll be meeting with the minister of labor, social
affairs, martyrs and the disabled; the acting minister of health; the
director of gender and human rights at the ministry of foreign affairs.

QUESTION: How many ministers is that? Two?

MR. CROWLEY: That’s three.

QUESTION: No, no, I don’t think the director of —

MR. CROWLEY: All right.

QUESTION: It’s three officials but only two ministers.

MR. CROWLEY: You’ll see them at the camera spray upstairs in a few

QUESTION: Right. But are those the only two women in the cabinet?

MR. CROWLEY: That’s a good question. I’ll – they’re the two that are
here. I’ll take that question.

And then the Secretary moves over to the U.S. Institute of Peace,
where she will have a conversation with President Karzai, moderated
by good friend Ambassador Bill Taylor, and that will be live-streamed
on and be covered live on C-SPAN. And I think many of you
probably will be going over there.

The Secretary this morning spoke with Turkish Foreign Minister
Davutoglu regarding Iran. During the call, the Secretary stressed that,
in our view, Iran’s recent diplomacy was an attempt to stop Security
Council action without actually taking steps to address international
concerns about its nuclear program. There’s nothing new and nothing
encouraging in Iran’s recent statements. It has failed to demonstrate
good faith and build confidence with the international community, which
was the original intent of the Tehran research reactor proposal. It
has yet to formally respond to the IAEA. She stressed that the burden
is with Iran and its lack of seriousness about engagement requires
us to intensify efforts to apply greater pressure on Iran. Now, that
was the primary purpose of the conversation. They briefly touched
on other subjects, including Middle East peace and the relationship
between Turkey and Azerbaijan.

The U.S.-China Human Rights Dialogue is underway. You’ll recall that
President Obama and President Hu Jintao agreed during their November
2009 meeting that we would organize another session. Assistant
Secretary for Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor Mike Posner and
Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs Director General for International
Organizations Chen Xu are leading the dialogue. Rule of law, religious
freedom, freedom of expression, labor rights, and other human rights
issues of concern will be raised over a two-day period.

Moving to Russia, our teams finished a second day of meetings on
adoptions. We’re committed to reaching an agreement to increase
safeguards for inter-country adoption between Russian – Russia and
the United States. We shared our views on existing difficulties and
discussed ways to resolve them. In fact, the detailed discussions
and very complex issues were such that they stayed over and will have
another round of consultations tomorrow.

Raj Shah has arrived in – or will be arriving in Nairobi today on the
first leg of his travel throughout – to Africa and to Kenya and Sudan.

Phil Gordon departed Macedonia today for – I’m sorry, departed Kosovo
for Macedonia, where he’ll discuss bilateral issues.

And finally, the United States has decided to join the Alliance of
Civilizations. We recognize the value of the Alliance of Civilizations
as an important initiative seeking to improve understanding between
cultures and peoples. We will be the 119th[i] member country or
international organization in the alliance’s group of friends. And on
May 28 and 29, the Government of Brazil will host the next Alliance
of Civilizations’ Forum in Rio de Janeiro and the United States
will attend this forum – our first event as a member of the group
of friends.

QUESTION: Why hadn’t you been a member before?

QUESTION: You’re not civilized?

MR. CROWLEY: (Laughter.) I think going back to the previous
administration had a particular (inaudible) to joining an international

QUESTION: Why, though?

MR. CROWLEY: You’ll have to ask them.

QUESTION: No, no. Why – I mean, there were concerns about this group,
were there not?

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, it was created in 2005 and we think the alliance
activities complement President Obama’s vision of more active U.S.

engagement with other nations and international organizations to
advance America’s security interests and meet the global challenges
of the 21st century.

QUESTION: Are you convinced now that the group is not going to be
promoting things hostile to Israel?

MR. CROWLEY: I think we believe that – I mean, the focus – the agenda
of this organization, we think, is very consistent with what we’re
trying to achieve in our relations with a broad range of countries.

QUESTION: Did you discuss it with Israel before announcing you’d
join it?

MR. CROWLEY: I do not know. I mean, we pursue our own national
interests. We don’t normally ask other countries permission to do
what we think is in our interest.

QUESTION: I don’t believe she said "ask permission."

MR. CROWLEY: You feeling all right? I heard a rumor you were —

QUESTION: My daughter. That’s all (inaudible). Quickly on China Human
Rights Dialogue, you didn’t mention internet freedom in the list that
you went down. Is that going to come up generally, and is the issue
of Google going to come up specifically?

MR. CROWLEY: Internet freedom is a dimension of our pursuit of
freedom of expression. That segment of the discussion will happen this
afternoon and it wouldn’t surprise me if a range of issues regarding
internet freedom comes up.

QUESTION: Including Google?

MR. CROWLEY: I can’t predict. This is – this component of the dialogue
will occur this afternoon.

QUESTION: And one other thing. Have you yet gotten a response, let
alone a satisfactory response, from the Chinese Government to your
inquiries about Google?

MR. CROWLEY: It goes back several weeks. I do not know that we
have received any indication of the – of any investigation that we
called for.

QUESTION: Can I ask about the Davutoglu? You said that she doesn’t
think any of the recent Iranian diplomacy amounted to anything new.

Was she referring to that dinner they hosted or to the conversations
that she’s had —

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I mean —

QUESTION: — that they’ve had with the Iranians and the Brazilians?

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, Iran has been very busy in recent weeks having
conversations with a range of countries. Part of that conversation did
occur last week in the dinner in New York. And not only – during the
conversation in New York, not only did Iran not offer any new, Foreign
Minister Mottaki indicated during the dinner that notwithstanding
any potential agreement on the Tehran research reactor, they would
continue to enrich uranium to 20 percent, which we – which is of
great concern to us and violates their obligations under the IAEA.

So they had initially, when they announced they were going to enrich
uranium to 20 percent, they claimed at the time that it was for the
Tehran research reactor, but it’s obviously part of a broader agenda.

And that’s what we are concerned about. That’s why we continue to
pursue the sanctions resolution as part of our pressure track.

QUESTION: Was there a specific reason for the timing of this call? I
mean, why today? Why now?

MR. CROWLEY: We have maintained very close contact —

QUESTION: Did the Turks come out and say something that – I don’t
know —


QUESTION: The Brazilians are going this weekend, I think with the


QUESTION: Tauscher’s there now, right?


QUESTION: Tauscher is there now in Turkey, right? Is her visit in
any way —

QUESTION: On the 16th.


QUESTION: What — what is the purpose of her visit to Turkey at this
time? Larijani is in Turkey, too.

MR. CROWLEY: I’ll take that question. I’m not up on her travel.

QUESTION: You said that the Turks were, or that the Secretary was
satisfied what she heard from the Turks in response to her comments

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, we have an ongoing conversation. Obviously, at
some point in the next few weeks, we expect to table a resolution in
New York, and at that time, Turkey will have a decision to make in
terms of whether or not to support that resolution. We’ve had many,
many discussions with Turkey and Brazil and others who are deeply
engaged in this process. You are quite right that President Lula will
be going to Tehran this weekend. Foreign Minister Davutoglu has been
personally to Tehran multiple times trying to convince Iran to be
more forthcoming, and so we have just kept in regular contact.

QUESTION: So the answer is no, she was not – she doesn’t feel like
she was able to convince them of anything?

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not sure she necessarily intended to convince
them. I mean, ultimately, Turkey will make a judgment based on its
own self-interest and its own international obligations. We are
in conversation with Turkey, Brazil, many other countries that are
part of the Security Council and will be required to judge what the
consequences of Iran’s failure to respond or engage seriously are.

QUESTION: Does she have any plans to talk to Lula or Amorim before
the trip, before –

MR. CROWLEY: If she does, I’ll let you know.

QUESTION: And just one thing you said —

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not aware – I don’t know. You can talk to the White
House in terms of whether the President plans to talk to President
Lula before the weekend. But if we tee up a call with Foreign Minister
Amorim, I’ll let you know.

QUESTION: And you said that she saw nothing new nor encouraging
in Iran’s recent statements. Does she think that the Turkish and
Brazilian diplomatic efforts are pointless?

MR. CROWLEY: No. We have a two-track strategy. The – Turkey and
Brazil have made a substantial commitment to try to make progress
on the engagement track. We have in the past as well. We obviously
continue to welcome any efforts that – any steps they can take to
try to convince Iran to change course. We ourselves are skeptical
that Iran is going to change course. And certainly, coming out of
President Lula’s trip to Tehran this weekend, we look forward to
hearing the results of that discussion and any others that might
occur. And at that point, I think we’ll understand where – what Iran
is either willing or unwilling to do. And at that point, we believe
that there should be consequences for failure to respond.

QUESTION: So you’re saying that Lula – Lula is sort of the last
opportunity for them to be responsive to —

QUESTION: In this phase?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I mean, we are – we continue to move forward on a
sanctions resolution, and we have a sense of urgency about this. We
want to get this done as quickly as possible. But our view remains
that we are doubtful that Iran is going to change course absent the
kind of significant pressure that comes with a resolution and the
consequences that come with them.

QUESTION: There seem to be all different options, though, on how this
Tehran research reactor deal could proceed. And I wonder, how flexible
is the U.S. being? Did she give Davutoglu any red lines about what
the U.S. would accept in this?

MR. CROWLEY: In – regarding the TRR, it was put on the table last fall
to build confidence with the international community about the true
intentions of Iran’s nuclear program. We have drawn conclusions from
Iran’s failure to even respond – much less engage constructively –
even respond to the proposal formally to the IAEA. She stressed to
Foreign Minister Davutoglu again today that it’s not about the public
statements that Iran makes. If Iran wishes to engage in – regarding
the TRR, come up with alternatives that meet the fundamental intent
of the proposal, then they can pick up the phone and call the IAEA,
which is something they have failed to do.

QUESTION: P.J., Lula is going to Moscow before going to Tehran. Has
he discussed any specific ideas with State that he might be discussing
with the Russians before going to Iran about the nuclear fuel swap?

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, we are significantly engaged with Russia on
this process and we would anticipate that that discussion would be
consistent with our stance, which is that Iran has to either respond
or face the consequences of a UN Security Council resolution.

QUESTION: P.J., the Secretary meets William Hague tomorrow. Is she
comfortable with the fact that his coalition partner is very clear
that they regard the Iraq war as having been illegal, that they’re
seeking a full judicial inquiry into allegations of British complicity
into rendition, and they’ve ruled out force against Iran?

MR. CROWLEY: She looks forward to the discussion tomorrow. She
has met William Hague before. I think, as was indicated in London
yesterday with the discussion by Prime Minister Cameron and Deputy
Prime Minister Clegg, there are lots of things that have been said
during a campaign, but now you have a coalition government. And I
think, as Prime Minister Cameron said yesterday, he seeks to maintain
a secure and effective relationship with the United States. And we
look forward to hearing from Foreign Secretary Hague about how he
sees the future of the relationship.

QUESTION: Does that security and an effective relationship depend to
some extent on rolling back on the Lib Dems’ part from both —

MR. CROWLEY: Well, these are judgments that the new British Government
is going to have to make. I mean, we recognize in this country that
there are things said during a campaign and then they have to put
together a program to govern.

QUESTION: Like Armenian genocide?

MR. CROWLEY: As the President said yesterday, this is an
extraordinarily special relationship. It is one of the most important
strategic relationships in the world. We have a shared vision of
the world, a shared agenda. I’m confident that that will be the
primary topic of conversation tomorrow, including the situation in
Afghanistan. I don’t know if Iraq will come up. It wouldn’t surprise
me if perspective on the current steps being – aggressive steps being
taken in Europe to deal with the economic crisis.

So I’m confident there will be a full discussion. There will be a
press availability tomorrow and you’ll have a chance to ask him that
question yourself.

QUESTION: Does that mean that you expect the – that you expect them
to not follow through on their —

MR. CROWLEY: I think, given —

QUESTION: That politics is politics, and politicians lie to get

MR. CROWLEY: No. Well, hang on a second. I mean, given —

QUESTION: Is that —

MR. CROWLEY: Given the statements made yesterday, I think the release
of – I think there was a release of kind of the basis of the coalition
government. We will look forward to seeing how the government plans
to govern over the next five years. We look forward to the discussion.

QUESTION: If they do go ahead – well, you’re not worried about a
criminal inquiry if it comes to pass?

MR. CROWLEY: I’m not – I’m just going to say we look forward to the
meeting tomorrow and —

QUESTION: (Inaudible) you say that was the last administration had
nothing —

MR. CROWLEY: We look forward to the meeting tomorrow and we’ll hear
what Foreign Secretary Hague has to say about what their agenda is.

QUESTION: Another meeting tomorrow, there’s going to be a preparatory
2+2 with the South Korean Government taking place here at the State
Department. Do you have any agenda, logistics of that meeting?

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t have a specific agenda in front of me, but as with
any high-level meeting with our South Korean allies, I would expect
there will be bilateral discussions. We are making adjustments on the
military front. We will, of course, discuss regional security issues,
including North Korea. I would fully expect bilateral and regional
issues to be – to dominate the discussion.

QUESTION: Do you expect a preview of the Cheonan investigation?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we are involved in and fully supportive of the
ongoing investigation.

QUESTION: Regarding the human —

QUESTION: The never-ending, ongoing investigation. (Laughter.)

QUESTION: Regarding the U.S.-China Human Rights Dialogue, will there
be – religious freedom issue will be addressed? And will —


QUESTION: — (inaudible) issue will be included?

MR. CROWLEY: I’m sorry?

QUESTION: Falun Gong issue will also be included?

MR. CROWLEY: I don’t know that Falun Gong will be a specific topic.

I’m not ruling it in or ruling it out. The dialogue just got underway.

You’ll have, I think, a briefing tomorrow afternoon with Assistant
Secretary Mike Posner at the conclusion of the dialogue and you can
ask him what specific issues came up.

QUESTION: Very briefly on this, the alliance, who is going to go to
this meeting in Rio? And might I suggest that it would make a lovely
stop after a return from Asia —

MR. CROWLEY: (Laughter.)

QUESTION: — if you really want to show how committed you are and send
a high-level representative. It is a ministerial meeting, isn’t it?

MR. CROWLEY: I do not know. I will —

QUESTION: Two days in Rio?

MR. CROWLEY: I will provide your recommendation to the Secretary
of State.

QUESTION: Thank you.

QUESTION: Do you have a readout on the meeting of the Tunisian
defense minister and Under Secretary Burns and Assistant Secretary
Shapiro today?

MR. CROWLEY: We’ll see if we can get you something, Samir.

QUESTION: Thank you.

QUESTION: The Human Rights Dialogue is here, isn’t it?


QUESTION: The human rights dialogue is here?

MR. CROWLEY: Yes. Deputy Secretary Steinberg addressed the – both
groups – both teams at the start of the dialogue first thing this

QUESTION: Is the U.S. side raising the names of specific political
prisoners or specific cases?

MR. CROWLEY: We frequently do that with meetings that we have with
high-level individuals or delegations from China. That’s a good
question to ask Mike tomorrow.

QUESTION: But do you know?

MR. CROWLEY: I do not know what the particular items to be discussed
will be.

QUESTION: Do you have a reaction —

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, I’m sure there could well be, in the course of
a broad discussion, some specific cases that we bring up that are
illustrative of the concerns that we have.

QUESTION: How concerned are you about the violence in Thailand and
the decision by the government to shelve elections in November?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we are very concerned. We’re watching it very
closely. It has had an impact on our embassy operations. We continue
to believe and we continue to encourage both sides that violence is
not the route to resolve these issues. Ultimately, the government
and the demonstrators have to get back together again and to find –
reach agreement on a path forward. And we are aware that a senior
general affiliated with the protestors has been shot and wounded today,
so we are very concerned about the ongoing violence.

QUESTION: Are you concerned about the violence or about the – because
it was a two-part question about the election.

MR. CROWLEY: Well, we’re concerned about both. I mean, there was an
understanding, whether it had been a formal agreement or not, on a
way forward to elections. It would appear as though that agreement
has collapsed and we would like – there’s no route to a solution
through violent confrontation. The government has to continue to have
a dialogue with the demonstrators and they need to reach an agreement
on a path forward.

QUESTION: Are there broader implications for democracy in that
country? I mean, are you thinking about these possible implications?

MR. CROWLEY: I mean, I’m not sure that now is the time for kind of
sweeping statements. There is – there are fundamental fissures within
Thai society, and the only way to resolve this and to develop a civil
and inclusive society is through peaceful negotiation.

QUESTION: What’s the effect on your embassy? You said it was affected.

MR. CROWLEY: I think it’s closed to only essential operations – let
me see, give me a second. It is closed and American citizens services
will be available for emergencies only.

QUESTION: When you say it’s closed, do you mean it’s closed —

MR. CROWLEY: I think essential personnel right now are —


MR. CROWLEY: — manning the embassy, but it’s not open.

QUESTION: Is that because of a specific threat or just because —

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I think the embassy sits on the fringe of this
containment area where some of the violence has taken place.

QUESTION: Are you close to a Russia deal? Are you close to a Russia
deal on adoptions? You sounded like it was —

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I think we have a good understanding of the issues.

We are – we’ve agreed to pursue an agreement and looking at a wide
range of steps to improve the security of these adoptions. I think
we’re confident that we will be able to reach an agreement, but
these are complex issues. I think actually getting the agreement,
which can have legally binding obligations on both sides, will take
some time to finalize.

QUESTION: On Futenma. There was a meeting between U.S. and Japan
yesterday. Do you have any readout of that?

MR. CROWLEY: It was a good meeting, but we continue our dialogue
with Japan.

QUESTION: How did the U.S. react to the Japanese proposal?

MR. CROWLEY: There are ongoing discussions about what to do and we’re
not done yet.

QUESTION: Anything new on the Chile investigation?


QUESTION: Do you think it’s progress from last week?

MR. CROWLEY: Well, I mean, we have been engaged with Japan for,
obviously, many months. We continue to share ideas back and forth. I
think we’re hopeful that we can reach an understanding soon, but
there’s still work to be done.

QUESTION: Thank you.

QUESTION: Thank you.


(The briefing was concluded at 12:45 p.m.)