CNN Transcript: Interview With the Kardashians

December 10, 2010 Friday

Interview With the Kardashians

BEHAR: Watching Kourtney, Khloe and Kim Kardashian in action is a lot
of fun. I haven`t had such a good time with sisters since I spent a
long weekend with a couple of Carmelite nuns. Here`s a clip from their
hit show “Keeping Up with the Kardashians.” Take a look.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who is going to miss Khloe?


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You`re such a bore, you married whore. You`re
such a bore, you married whore.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are you guys being mean?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Because you`re going to be so jealous when we`re
in New York.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I`m really not going to miss this when you
guys are in New York.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Stay home with your husband, and we`ll be in Nueva York.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`re going to New York.


BEHAR: Joining me now are the three Ks, Kim, Khloe and Kourtney
Kardashian who are the authors, by the way, of a new book “Kardashian
Konfidential.” Welcome, ladies. OK. You know, you just turned 30, and
I was just thinking, when I turned 30, which was only ten years ago —
shut up!


BEHAR: I thought I was old. Do you feel old at 30? I mean, it`s not.
It`s very young, and I know that now. But at the time it was like oh,
my God.

mom reminds me that at, you know, my age, she had four kids already.

such a different time.

BEHAR: Right.


KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: I turned 30 eighteen months ago or whatever, but
I felt like so good when I turned 30.

KIM KARDASHIAN: You know what, it`s very empowering. I was really
nervous going into it. I was kind of freaked out, and then after —


KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: What are you even talking about?


BEHAR: A tunnel, like going into it.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Going into it.

KIM KARDASHIAN: And then all of a sudden, I don`t know, something
changed. And I was like, oh, my God, I`m 30. This is amazing. I feel
good. I feel accomplished. I feel, you know, successful.

BEHAR: Well, you`re on the low side of 40 now. So enjoy it.


KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: That`s depressing.

BEHAR: Let me start with you because you posted on Twitter that you
fell off the wagon, OK? What does that mean? What wagon?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I tweeted that I had been in Europe for three weeks
and then New York for six weeks, and I hadn`t worked out once.

BEHAR: Stop it!

KIM KARDASHIAN: And that`s so not like me because I love to work out,
and I just really felt not like myself. So, I had to get home where I
worked out every single day.

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: And my mom told her she gained 12 pounds.


BEHAR: Did you?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I gained about ten.

BEHAR: Did that freak you out?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I mean, now that I`m 30 and everyone`s telling me that
your metabolism isn`t the same.

BEHAR: Well, 35 to 40, it starts to go berserk.

KIM KARDASHIAN: OK. Oh, so, I still have some time.



BEHAR: But why did you feel the need to tweet that, though?

KIM KARDASHIAN: Because I needed motivation from my Twitter followers
to give me motivation to get up and get into the gym. Sometimes, it`s
hard. You get so comfortable, and you just need that motivation, that
push. And so, everyone was writing me, you know, really great,
positive things. And so, I was like, OK, guys, I`m going to go to the
gym. I`m going to get it together, and I feel better already.

BEHAR: OK. Now, you girls are Lebanese?


BEHAR: Armenian. Whatever.


BEHAR: Just kidding. They`re similar in many ways.


BEHAR: I mean, the food, Mediterranean, Italian, it`s Greek, it`s
Lebanese, it`s Armenian, it`s ethnic. And you seem to be very
comfortable with how beautiful you are. You are very good looking
women, I think.


BEHAR: And full figured a little bit. You got the boobs going on and,
you know, and the booty.

KIM KARDASHIAN: I paid for these babies.

BEHAR: I know you did, which I will discuss that in a second with you.

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Actually, my mom did.

BEHAR: You know, but we live in a — we live in a country that values
emaciated girls and blonds with tiny little noses.


BEHAR: And sort of low — maybe big boobs some of them, but small.


BEHAR: So, I think it`s great that you have basically gone beyond that
look to become the new look. Are you happy about that?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I mean, we were just somewhere and someone came up to
us and said, you know, all the guys now ask me if I`m Armenian like
the Kardashian sisters because she has dark hair and she`s curvy and,
you know, tanned skin. And she was like, so I just want to say thank
you, guys, so much. Guys didn`t really look at me before.

BEHAR: Isn`t that nice?

KIM KARDASHIAN: It`s really cool.

BEHAR: How do you survive in California where it`s a felony to be fat?
You go to jail for that there.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: You really can.

BEHAR: I mean, how did you survive it?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I have been through — like people even now — my
weight always goes up and down, but I feel like that`s normal and
that`s just my body type. I always struggle with it.


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: But people always, even now, they come down on me
for my weight. I don`t think I am that big. I feel like I might be a
normal size, but does my weight fluctuate, yes, but I get so much
ridicule. They call me fat, I`m 400 pounds, and this and that, people
are just mean.

BEHAR: They are mean.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Yes. I definitely have to stay. I don`t go on the blog —

BEHAR: But they love you, too.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Right. They would never say it to my face but
definitely on Twitter or blogs or anything like that. They call me
every name in the book.

BEHAR: But who cares what they say behind your back. It`s only what
they say to your face that counts.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Right. And they`re all afraid of me.

BEHAR: They are?


BEHAR: Why? You`re tough.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Yes. I`m a tough little broad, and I`m going to
knock them out.


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I`m going to knock them out with that ring.

BEHAR: You married to Lamar Odom who plays for the L.A. Lakers, right?
And there`s so much cheating that goes on in the sports world, how do
you handle that?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Well, Lamar and I — I mean, Lamar gets very
offended when people ask him this question because he doesn`t believe
in that kind of —

BEHAR: Well, he`s not here. I`m asking you.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Right. No, I mean, I get it. But, you know, also, I
could say that in every world, you know, like if you`re a stockbroker,
you could be sleeping with your secretary.


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I do think that it`s more elevated because you know
these people by name or face. And that`s why you know about it. And
people say because they travel and their schedules, Lamar and I don`t
spend five days without seeing each other. That`s just a rule that him
and I have.

BEHAR: That`s good.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: And we like that rule.

BEHAR: But what about the fact that these sports guys who are out
there having girls that are throwing themselves at them? Doesn`t that,
you know, enter into the little nervous about letting them out there?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: For me, like, I never would have married Lamar even
that was fast if I didn`t trust him 100 percent. I couldn`t do that to
myself emotionally. And I feel like if you start believing, is he
cheating, is he cheating? Questioning. One, that`s not the way I want
to live my life, I`m 26 (ph). That means that for the next 50 years,
I`m going to be thinking that. I`m not going to do that to myself. And
two, if you start believing it, you`re going to manifest it and I feel
like make it happen one day. I`m a very positive person.

BEHAR: But what do you think about like Eva Longoria? She didn`t seem
to have a clue that Tony Parker was cheating on her with a lot of
women it turns out, I think, allegedly. What do you think about that,
that she didn`t really get it?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I mean, I don`t know.

KIM KARDASHIAN: Well, you never know when you`re in that situation or
any situation. I don`t think anyone can really comment on like other
people`s relationships, but I know that I wouldn`t be in one and Khloe
wouldn`t be married, you know, unless, you did feel that way.

BEHAR: You like athletes also, right?


BEHAR: A lot of them.

KIM KARDASHIAN: A lot of them?


BEHAR: You don`t tend to like them?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: I don`t think I`ve ever liked an athlete.

BEHAR: Yes, but has Brett Favre ever faxed a picture of his penis to you?



BEHAR: Really?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Yes. I have it in my phone.

BEHAR: She`s kidding.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: It was actually just his balls, Kourtney.


BEHAR: What makes a man like Brett Favre think that that is a turn-on
for a woman to get that picture, may I ask?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: What idiot does something like that? Like, why do
you do that like you`re going to get caught? Doy.


BEHAR: All right. So, you girls are not worried about that. You`re not
worried about groupies coming on to your men?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Honey, they should be worried about groupies coming on to me.


BEHAR: You go, girl. I like that.

KIM KARDASHIAN: The male groupies.

BEHAR: Now, you said, Kim, in an interview, that you thought you`d be
married by now?

KIM KARDASHIAN: Yes, you know, if you would ask me, I`m sure there`s a
ton of interviews from, you know, even five years ago where you would
be at 30.

BEHAR: But you were married at 19, right?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I was married, yes. So, I already got one, you know, in the can.

BEHAR: One down, how many to go?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Twenty more to go.

KIM KARDASHIAN: One more to go. You live and you learn. But I think
that I also wouldn`t have thought that I would, you know, have a
fragrance and a book and so many other amazing things.

BEHAR: You have a very successful show. You girls are very good
business people. See, you`re making a lot of money. How much is the
Kardashian brand worth would you say now?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: A true woman never tells.

BEHAR: A true woman asks the question.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: And you are a true woman. It`s (INAUDIBLE) my friend.

BEHAR: Does it bother you when people say you`re famous for being famous?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: I don`t even know what that means, and I
literally have heard it, I think, 25 times today. No, but I`m like,
that`s like what people say when they think of us as like famous for
being famous.

BEHAR: I know that you`ve heard the question, but —


BEHAR: Does it bug you? It would bug me.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: It doesn`t bother me. I don`t really understand —

KIM KARDASHIAN: It really doesn`t bother me.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Yes, it doesn`t bother me. I think that we`ve like
proven ourselves, and we`ve had our stores before the TV show. We
worked so hard. But I mean, people are always going to — like you
said, they`re going to think what they want and believe what they
want. I don`t care why you think I`m famous. You`re still buying my

BEHAR: Do you worry that, you know, when Andy Warhol said that
everybody in America is going to have 15 minutes of fame, eventually.
Do you worry that your 15 minutes could be over at some point?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I really don`t think that we, you know, mind it, to be
honest. I think that we are having so much fun. When it stops being
fun, when the show is just not fun, we`ll stop the show. But I think
if we were to just snap back and it would all go away today, —

BEHAR: Yes, what would you do?

KIM KARDASHIAN: Well, we have our clothing stores and we have
businesses that we started way before.


BEHAR: OK. We`ll have much more with the lovely Kardashian girls on
the way. Stick around.


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I have a little anxiety.


KIM KARDASHIAN: You look gorgeous. Your dress is stunning.


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Let`s do it. I`m getting married!


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: We`re standing in the guest house and I see my
sisters and everyone walking out one by one. I`m like losing each one.
We`re getting a little bit closer, a little bit closer. I`m just
getting more and more anxious.


BEHAR: OK. That was a clip from “Keeping Up with the Kardashians” when
Khloe got married, and the sisters are back with me. What were you
going to say about her how many times she`s going to get married?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I said, well, Kourtney and I and my mom — because I
was saying my mom and I — my mom`s like I just want Kim to have a
boyfriend. And I was like, honestly, I think Kim is like —

KIM KARDASHIAN: I mean, what is this?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: She`s just crazy.


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I said that I think Kim is like Elizabeth Taylor. I
think she`s going to be married like eight glamorous times, but — I
think like just dripping in diamonds and —


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Just like every 20-carat engagement ring I say is
going to be on her —

KIM KARDASHIAN: No. I`ll have (ph) one more.

BEHAR: Do you have any aspirations to be an actress?


BEHAR: I can se you playing Cleopatra.


BEHAR: But you have to act.

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: I used to be on “One Life to Live.”

BEHAR: Good for you.


BEHAR: You have? Very good. So, what about you? You want to be an
actress or no? She just has to make the money, this one.

KIM KARDASHIAN: She wants to be a housewife.

BEHAR: Now, you know, in this book, which is quite attractive, by the
way, I must tell you —


BEHAR: You write a lot about your father, Robert Kardashian, who died
in 2003, and your parents divorced when you were all very young,
right? So, that must have been hard for you. I mean, how old were you,
4 years old?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I was like 4 or 5.


KIM KARDASHIAN: I was 10. And, you know, in the book, we kind of give
advice on how to really deal with situations like that and all three
of us dealt with it so differently. Khloe was, you know, kind of
oblivious to it. I was OK with it. And Kourtney had a really, really
hard time with it.

BEHAR: You had a hard time. How old were you?


BEHAR: My daughter was 11. It`s the tough time to go through divorce.

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: And I think, for me, just adapting to Bruce
because he and my mom met —

BEHAR: Bruce Jenner who is now your stepfather?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Yes. They got married six months after my parents
got a divorce.


KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: And Bruce couldn`t be a nicer guy, but I hated
him. I was so mean to him.

BEHAR: What did you do to him?


KIM KARDASHIAN: Scratch him.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Kourtney would only wear black like she was — he
has literally scars on his hand from Kourtney would like dig her nails
into him.

BEHAR: What do you mean she would only wear black? What do you mean?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: One day, I decided to wear black around the
house. And they think — they say that I did it for months. It was one
day, because I was being dramatic.

BEHAR: It felt like months.


KIM KARDASHIAN (ph): Why are you guys listening to me?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: And they say that I was like dramatic. I decided
to be like annoying —



BEHAR: So, you were acting out against your stepfather?


BEHAR: You were 4 years old and probably —

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: She loved Bruce right away.

BEHAR: Did you?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I mean, he was just different from my dad. My dad
was really fun and always silly, but Bruce was just like an athletic
different guy who wore like Reebok pumps. My dad was like a
businessman. I don`t know. It was just like a totally two —


KHLOE KARDASHIAN: And I used to sit on his feet.


BEHAR: And how about you?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I mean, I loved my new stepbrothers and sisters. I
thought it was like so cool having brothers for the first time.

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: You have a brother.

KIM KARDASHIAN: I know. But he was so much younger.



BEHAR: She prefers her stepbrothers to her natural brother.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Having brothers for the first time.

KIM KARDASHIAN: You know what I mean. They were like old enough.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I wonder if Robert will know what you mean when he hears this.

BEHAR: OK. Also in the book, you write about your dad being friends
with O.J. Simpson which was an interesting part of the book. You used
to call O.J. Uncle O.J.


BEHAR: Tell me about that time in your family. What was that like?
Because I know that he — did he — the bronco chase started at your
house, correct?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Started at my dad`s house, but that was probably the
worst time in all of our lives because my mom was best friends with
Nicole and she thought wholeheartedly that O.J. was guilty. And then
my dad was best friends with O.J. So, our family was really divided
during this time, and it was really hard on us as kids because we were
never told to pick sides, but we felt like we kind of had to.

BEHAR: So, did you?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I was younger but —

KIM KARDASHIAN: Kourtney and I chose to pick my dad`s side because he
felt like he was by himself. And my mom had remarried and she had this
like support system, and my dad was kind of all by himself. So, we
always like respected him as, you know, a father and a businessman.
So, we just thought our dad was always right.

BEHAR: So, you thought O.J. was not guilty.


BEHAR: Because your father you thought believed that.

KIM KARDASHIAN: We just believed in what my father believed in, and we
kind of wanted to be there for him.

BEHAR: And you did not?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I was so much younger, but I was really, really good
friends with Sydney, their daughter. So, I would always go and see her
at her grandparents to, you know, keep her company. I don`t know. I
don`t really think I had an opinion. I respected my dad`s voice —

KIM KARDASHIAN: They kept it away from the younger kids, too.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: They weren`t allowed to watch TV. Nothing like that.

BEHAR: I think that that was probably a difficult time for you.


BEHAR: That had to be hard, because — what do you think now? In
retrospect? Is he guilty or not?

KIM KARDASHIAN: I don`t really have an opinion. I don`t really care to
ever think about it.

BEHAR: What (INAUDIBLE) Kim, come on.

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Just the same way. I think it`s so close and emotional.

BEHAR: You can`t make a decision.

KIM KARDASHIAN: We can`t really go there.

BEHAR: And you, same thing?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Same thing. I just feel like, you know, we don`t
know what happened, but the fact that he`s back in jail, I think
that`s a sign of karma like why would — I don`t know. I just feel
like signs and – – I don`t know. I don`t know if he did it or not, but
the fact that he`s back in jail just raises some awareness in my head.

BEHAR: Interesting that you just don`t want to go there, the three of you.

KIM KARDASHIAN: Everyone asks me all the time.

BEHAR: I will just psychoanalyze you for a second. I think you`re just
feeling you want to be loyal to your father right now.


BEHAR: That`s how it looks to me right now.

KIM KARDASHIAN: And I`m friends with his children and I speak to his
children, so I never want to, you know disrespect them.

BEHAR: You say what you want to say, but that`s where I think you`re
at. It`s like, you know, daddy`s not here any more, leave it alone.
OK. Now, Khloe, let`s talk about your virginity.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Oh, my God. I thought you were going to say vagina.


BEHAR: Listen, you know, on this show, we can go there.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: I know. That`s why I thought you`re going to say it.

BEHAR: Virginity, losing is it more important than a vagina at the moment.


BEHAR: You were 14 — I heard this this morning.


BEHAR: You were 14 and you lost it to an older guy. We only have 30 seconds?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: This is too much for 30 seconds.


BEHAR: When we come back, we`re going to find out all about Khloe`s virginity.


BEHAR: I`m back with the delightful Kardashian sisters. So come on, Khloe.


BEHAR: Spill it, girl.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Well, yes, I felt the need to put that in there
because I have little sisters. And my situation was not a good
situation. I was 14 years old, and I was dating an 18-year-old boy,
which now I look back and I think that`s disgusting, but then, I
thought it was really cool and dating an older guy and I just felt
cool. Basically, I got pressured into having sex. I wasn`t ready. I
barely knew my own body.

BEHAR: Who pressured you?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: The guy. He did. And I felt like if I didn`t, I
would not be cool or this guy wouldn`t want to talk to me any more.
And I feel like so many girls do things either sexually or even with
cliques, if they`re just girls, you know, just hanging out, they do
think like they`re doing drugs or just because they feel pressured.
After I did that and my parents forbid me to see this guy, I snuck
around for two months hanging out with him, and then —

BEHAR: They found out?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: They found out. And they were like — it was the
worst thing that happened in my life at that moment.

BEHAR: What did they say to him? Did anybody, you know, did they
confront the guy?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Oh, yes. My dad said he`s calling the police and all
this kind of stuff. My dad was ballistic about it.

BEHAR: Statutory rape.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Yes. I know my dad went crazy on them. And then, you
know, after two months, I really felt really awful about myself. And I
stopped talking to the guy again. And I didn`t have sex for the next
three years just because I didn`t feel comfortable with my own body. I
didn`t like I knew myself and then being out of that environment, I
knew I did the wrong thing, and I was kind of forced to have sex.

BEHAR: Well, you know, it`s a common story, I think. Young girls are
having sex much earlier than they ever did. I mean, I was 21 when I
lost my virginity. OK. There you have it.


BEHAR: That was ridiculous. That`s a little old for even those days. I
mean, I think Betsy Ross got laid sooner than I did. Anyway, —


BEHAR: How about you? When did you lose your virginity? Let`s just
have a girl thing here now. Come on.


KIM KARDASHIAN: I don`t know. I think it`s like super personal.

BEHAR: All right. Then don`t tell me. What about you?


BEHAR: You were 16?

KIM KARDASHIAN: That`s pretty normal.

BEHAR: You were between the two?

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Don`t lie. You were 10.


BEHAR: So you were 15. She was 14, she was 16, you were 15. All right.
You girls are quite advanced.

KIM KARDASHIAN: Yes. You know how we do it.

BEHAR: You know what, it`s al L.A. L.A., that`s what it`s all about.


BEHAR: No, I`m just kidding.


KIM KARDASHIAN: I had a boyfriend for five years.

BEHAR: You had a boyfriend for five years?


BEHAR: But I mean, if you have daughters, you have a little boy, right?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: Boys are so much easier. They can (EXPLETIVE
DELETED) whoever they want and you don`t care.

BEHAR: Not necessarily true.


BEHAR: First of all, they get a girl pregnant, you know it`s not —

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Imagine the stuff we warned Rob about, you know?
So it`s not that easy.

KIM KARDASHIAN: As long as you make them use a condom then you don`t
really care about guys —

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Well, you can`t sit in the room and make them do anything.

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: You can`t? Who knew?

BEHAR: I don`t have to much time, 30 seconds. But the press is always
comparing the three of you. This one`s got this. This one`s got this.
Doesn`t that annoy you?

KHLOE KARDASHIAN: A 100% it annoys us, but, I mean, at the same time
we are not insecure with who we are as women. And we love each other
so much. I`m so happy for everything she is going on and she is going
on. It doesn`t bother me.

KIM KARDASHIAN: We`re all like in such different places on our lives
and phases that, you know, we`re happy for each other.

KOURTNEY KARDASHIAN: Kim and Khloe know that I`m the smartest so —

BEHAR: So, there you have it.


BEHAR: All righty. Their new book is “Kardashian Konfidential.” Pick
it up. It`s very cute. Good night, everybody. Thank you, girls. Lovely
to see you.


From: A. Papazian