Iraqi Kurd article discusses Turk historian thesis on origins of Arm

Aso, Kirkuk, Iraq
Iraqi Patriotic Union of Kurdistan
Jan 28 2008

Iraqi Kurd article discusses Turk historian’s thesis on origins of
Armenians

by Stran Abdallah
"The plight of Turkey"

The plight of Turkey is created by its historians. In the past, the
historians instilled the idea of purifying the Turkish language from
foreign words, particularly Arabic words, into [founder of Turkish
state] Kemal Ataturk.

They were busy with this issue when others [historians] said that the
world originated from the Turkish nation. So, Turkish is the language
of the entire world as long as the world originated from the Turks.
Then, why purify the Turkish language from the words of those other
languages that are themselves Turkish? Hence, a lie protected Turkey
from another more lie!

Now, another historian emerged who says that most of the Kurds are
originally ethnic Armenians and have turned themselves into Kurds,
otherwise, the Kurds numbered very few. This looks like the Ba’thist
propaganda of "nationality rectification", namely those people were
formerly turned into Kurds and they can now rectify their
nationality. In what era were the Kurds in Iraq and Turkey so
powerful [to prompt] other people to enlist themselves as Kurds.

What blessing and prosperity the Armenian enjoyed after they turned
into Kurds! If the Armenians had no choice but to change their
nationality, why did not they become dominant Muslim Turks, instead
of becoming a poor oppressed Kurd? If they are doomed to be
mass-killed, what difference can Kurdish or Armenian nationality
make?

This historian wants, as does real historians, to use "facts", but
the "fact" here has to do with cheating [deception]: go and examine
the PKK [Kurdistan Workers’ Party] guerrillas, you will find that
they have not been circumcised, because they are ethnic Armenians and
Christians do not practice circumcision!

Look what a plight do historians try to afflict on Turkey? [Turkish
Premier Recep Tayyip] Erdogan is now working on declaring an amnesty
for the guerrillas so that they leave the mountains. But the thesis
the historian presents is a big problem: for you need to be checked,
as you come down the mountains, whether you have been circumcised or
stayed as an Armenian!

Thus, in Turkey, if men stay in mountains, they may kill or get
killed in an encounter, or they may be captured and their head blown
off. And if they want to come down the mountains and respond to the
amnesty, a historian will stand by at the bottom of the valley to
examine them and may cut off flesh from them!

[Translated from Kurdish]

LTP has grounds that R Hovannisian and A Baghdasaryan will join him

First president of Armenia Levon Ter-Petrosyan has solid grounds to
state that Raffi Hovannisian and Artur Baghdasaryan will join him

2008-02-02 11:11:00

ArmInfo. "I have solid grounds to confirm that Leader of Heritage Party
Raffi Hovannisian and Leader of Orinats Yerkir Party Artur Baghdasarian
will join us. I don’t doubt that all the honest people can not but join
us in the fight to get rid of the "bandocracy regime", First Armenian
president, contender to the presidential post Levon Ter-Petrosyan said
at the election meeting in Vanadzor, Lori region. To note, the
presidential candidate didn’t specify when it will happen in
particular, before the first round of the 19 February voting or before
the possible second final round of the election. To recall, Heritage
Party leaded by Raffi Hovannisian, who couldn’t nominate his
candidature because of the eligibility criterion of Armenian
citizenship in the past 10 years, hasn’t still made a decision. And
Leader of Orintas Yerkir Party Artur Baghdasaryan is a presidential
candidate himself. However, Head of A.
Baghdasaryan’s campaign headquarters Heghine Bisharyan, when speaking
about A. Baghdasaryan’s intention to proceed to the completion,
emphasized more than once that Orinats Yerkir will support the
opposition’s candidate in the second round of the presidential
election.

Working Consultations To Discuss The Preparation Of "Rubezh 2008"

WORKING CONSULTATIONS TO DISCUSS THE PREPARATION OF "RUBEZH 2008"

armradio.am
01.02.2008 16:40

President Robert Kocharyan today visited the General Staff of
the Armed Forces of the Republic of Armenia, where he held working
consultations with the senior staff of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs,
the Ministry of Defense and the National Security Service, President’s
Press Office reports.

Discussed were issues related to the preparation of the "Rubezh 2008"
military exercises to be held in Armenia in the framework of the 2008
program of the Armed Forces of the member states of the Collective
Security Treaty Organization.

Larisa Alaverdian: Only Arman Melikian And Vazgen Manukian Among Pre

LARISA ALAVERDIAN: ONLY ARMAN MELIKIAN AND VAZGEN MANUKIAN AMONG PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES TRY TO INTRODUCE ELECTION CAMPAIGN CULTURE

Noyan Tapan
Jan 31, 2008

YEREVAN, JANUARY 31, NOYAN TAPAN. Only two among the presidential
candidates, Arman Melikian and Vazgen Manukian try to introduce
culture of election campaign. Larisa Alaverdian, a member of the RA NA
Zharangutiun (Heritage) faction, the first RA Ombudsperson, expressed
such an opinion at the January 31 meeting with journalists. In her
words, the election campaigns of another two candidates, Vahan
Hovhannisian and Artur Baghdasarian are "to the maximum extent
partially" within the limits of the culture of preelection campaign,
and the election campaigns of the other candidates are very far from
that culture, the downfall of which started from 1995.

In response to journalists’ questions L. Alaverdian said that
Zharangutiun has studied the list of party representatives in polling
station commissions appointed by party representative in electoral
district N 23 Arnak Sahakian and found out that they have never
been members of the party or even if its apologists. The majority of
them are representatives of pro-governmental parties, in particular,
RPA. At present they work in the direction of preventing inclusion
of persons having nothing in common with the Zharangutiun party into
polling station commissions. "One of Zharangutiun’s members acted
dishonestly and by doing it not only deviated from the commitments
assumed by him, but also violated the law, and we should struggle
against it," L. Alaverdian said stressing that the above mentioned
person was expelled from the party.

L. Alaverdian considers that society should do its best for the
RA President to be elected by two tours, as in case of one tour we
will have "a picture not corresponding to the attitude of a large
part of society" to the authorities. L. Alaverdian also considers
dangerous the process, through which the status of persons having
adopted dual citizenship in he illegal way is legalized: as a result,
the dual citizens, who will appear in Armenia on the day of voting,
will take part in voting. In her words, the problem also has a second
side: what legal consequence the stipulation of the dual citizenship
will have in the other country, where the person has received dual
citizenship illegally. L. Alaverdian considers as gross violation of
human rights deprivation of RA citizens being outside Armenia at the
moment of voting of the legal right of going to polls.

Larisa Alaverdian considers the rumors on appointing Zharangutiun
Chairman Raffi Hovannisian Yerevan Mayor as "a result of nightmares:"
there has never been and will never be a proposal on including
R. Hovhannisian in power.

Hovhannesian: I Will Go All The Way

HOVHANNESIAN: I WILL GO ALL THE WAY

Yerkir.am
January 31, 2008

"I am not going do drop out of the race. I will go all the way," ARF
presidential candidate Vahan Hovhannesian said at a news conference
held at the ARF Bureau on January 30.

He said that in many regions of Armenia, and especially in northern
regions, there are rumors that Hovhannesian is going to drop out and
endorse the prime minister.

"This is a lie. If there is a run-off, I will not endorse anybody
because I will be in the run-off," Hovhannesian added.

He said that many issues emerge during his meetings in both Yerevan and
the regions. He also spoke about anti-ARF movies shown on TV. "There
are movies produced in the Soviet era. These movies are shown during
every election.

This may be good because it indicates that they have nothing else
for anti-ARF propaganda," he said.

He also said that there is an organizational issue, which mostly is
apparent in villages. "There are concerns in regions that village
heads are going to force people to vote openly. We will not let this
happen. We should tell our people that they should not believe that
their votes can be monitored. This is a lie, we will do our best but
voters should not give way to the pressures from bureaucrats."

Hovhannessian said that over 170,000 people have signed contracts
with him.

"This means we are approaching the number of the votes we received
in the parliamentary election, and I think we will add more votes to
this number," he said. He said that there were cases when some people
had attempted to present fake contracts but the people at election
headquarters have thwarted such attempts.

Armenian Grand Masters To Partake In The Moscow Open 2008

ARMENIAN GRAND MASTERS TO PARTAKE IN THE MOSCOW OPEN 2008

armradio.am
30.01.2008 11:40

Armenian Grand Masters Vladimir Hakobyan, Elina Danielyan, Artashes
Minasyan, Karen Asryan and Zaven Andreasyan will participate in
Moscow Open 2008 International Chess Festival. It is a strong open
tournament with three groups that will be held in Moscow February
2-10. The tournament will feature more than 600 participants. Grand
Master Vladimir Hakobyan is at the top of the list.

Armenia: Measures To Promote Free-And-Fair Presidential Vote Face Sc

ARMENIA: MEASURES TO PROMOTE FREE-AND-FAIR PRESIDENTIAL VOTE FACE SCRUTINY
Gayane Abrahamyan

EurasiaNet
Jan 29 2008
NY

With Armenia’s presidential election less than a month away,
attention is focusing on measures taken by the government to promote a
free-and-fair vote. Critics are quick to cite shortcomings in official
anti-fraud efforts, and some go so far as to accuse the government
of plotting to stuff ballot boxes. Officials are downplaying the
opposition criticism and accusations, with one calling them the
byproduct of an "ardent imagination."

International observers qualified Armenia’s May 2007 parliamentary
election as largely in keeping with international democratic norms,
though they stressed that many core problems existed. [For background
see the Armenia Vote: 2007 special feature]. Prime Minister Serzh
Sarkisian is widely considered the leading candidate to win the
February 19 election and succeed President Robert Kocharian, who
is constitutionally barred from seeking another term. Sarkisian’s
primary challenger is generally considered to be former president,
Levon Ter-Petrosian. [For background see the Eurasia Insight archive].

Beginning last October, parliament began working out a new election
code, but many of the recommendations by the Organization for Security
and Cooperation in Europe’s Office for Democratic Institutions and
Human Rights observation mission were not incorporated into the
reform blueprint.

Of the changes made, some political activists cite the requirement to
seal voters’ passports to prevent multiple voting as the most important
new anti-fraud feature; repeat voting was a problem mentioned by the
OSCE observers in their final report on the May 2007 election. "This
is the only amendment to help fight against violations such as repeat
voting," commented opposition Heritage Party secretary Stepan Safarian.

An additional amendment allows voters to vote outside of the
constituency in which they were originally registered — if they
re-register seven days before the election. While some local observers
see this as a progressive idea that follows international standards,
they also worry that it will pave the way for abuse of administrative
resources.

"I am confident the people will register in a number of lists and
will vote several times," commented Varuzhan Hoktanian, deputy
chairperson of Transparency International Armenia. "Of course,
sealing passports will somehow divert the threat, but there will
certainly be countermeasures to neutralize those seals." In the past,
Hoktanian alleged, commission members – acting on prior agreements —
did not always check passports.

The Central Election Commission dismisses such allegations of laxity.

"We are led by the electoral code and it provides all the possibilities
to hold democratic elections. We can’t predict and prevent the way
people can falsify them. There should be a complaint with supporting
evidence filed to consider," CEC Secretary Abraham Bakhchagulyan
told EurasiaNet.

OSCE recommendations to review campaigning and campaign financing
regulations — and how they would apply to activities both before and
after the official campaign period — were not included in the new
law. Opposition candidate Artur Baghdasarian contends that such changes
were not discussed because they would not work to the government’s
advantage; ruling Republican Party parliamentarian Samvel Nikoyan,
meanwhile, said that it was necessary to first define the term of the
pre-campaign period before spending practices and other activities
could be regulated.

In addition, the OSCE suggested that parliament "urgently review" the
make-up of election commissions. In its final September 2007 report,
the OSCE noted that "persons appointed by the ruling parties and the
president have a priority right in being appointed to the top three
positions of the chairman, deputy chairman and the secretary."

Despite the OSCE’s recommendation, this provision in the electoral
code remained unchanged; election commission seats are largely
based on representation in parliament, meaning only two opposition
parties – the Heritage and Orinats Yerkir parties – are represented
on commissions. Citing aides to party leader Raffi Hovannisian,
ArmeniaLiberty on January 25 reported that the Heritage Party plans
to grant its seats in "hundreds of election commissions" to supporters
of Ter-Petrosian and Vazgen Manukian. Nonetheless, the large majority
of commission seats will remain in administration-friendly hands.

To prepare commission members for the election, the CEC has organized
three training seminars with support from IFES and the OSCE. Training
will begin on January 28 for some 15,000 precinct election commission
members.

Opposition members, contend that training for commission members
is less pressing than other needs. Some prefer to call attention to
allegations of administration initiatives to rig the vote. For example,
Baghdasarian’s campaign manager alleges that within the past few weeks
state funds have been allotted for the printing of some 500,000 new
passports for Armenians who no longer reside in the country. "They have
already listed the persons who are absent from Armenia – about 500,000
– to print new passports in their names to have someone else go and
vote with those passports," said Heghine Bisharian, who cited sources
within the police passport department as the basis for her claim.

Col. Alvina Zakarian, head of the police department in charge of voter
lists, rejected Bisharian’s accusation. The newly issued passports
are legitimate, he asserted, and are intended to accommodate new
voters. Some 4,000 Armenians reached voting age between January 10
and January 14, he said, and "many" others returned to Armenia after
last year’s elections and re-registered to vote, he said.

"I am ready to take the responsibility, if you show me just one false
passport," Zakarian said.

In response to this allegation, President Kocharian has stated that
the funds are intended for a new passport system that would include
biometric data in Armenian passports.

Meanwhile, voter rights group Election 2008 Legal Initiative,
a collective of some 50 Armenian NGOs funded by the international
development organization Counterpart International, reports that
employees at schools and state-funded institutions have called the
group’s hotline to report that their employers are pressuring them to
hand over their passports. Some were allegedly told that the passports
were needed to check data; others were refused an explanation.

People’s Party of Armenia Deputy Chairman Grigor Harutyunian, who
backs Ter-Petrosian’s candidacy, terms the alleged practice an abuse
of administrative resources. "The heads of state institutions and
schools are mostly Republican [Party of Armenia] or Prosperous Armenia
[Party] members. They demand the passports as employers and threaten
to fire people if they refuse to bring them in," Harutyunian alleged.

Republican Party of Armenian spokesperson Eduard Sharmazanov strongly
denied the allegations, referring to the reports of passport collection
as "the results of the opposition’s ardent imagination."

"Why don’t they sue them?" Sharmazanov said, referring to employees
allegedly targeted by the requests. "No one has the right to take
anyone’s passport."

Lawyer Khachatur Ohanian, a member of the Election 2008 Legal
Initiative group, says that fear of reprisals often deters voters from
pursuing complaints. "[I]n many cases, we have registered voters and
have told them we are ready to defend them free of charge, but they
are afraid and don’t believe us."

CEC Secretary Bakhchagulian counters that such allegations merely
cater to the opposition’s interests. In the end, he says, election
observers will act as the final arbiters of these disputes. "We
are doing everything to have high-quality elections," he said. "The
observers will judge how well we have succeeded."

Editor’s Note: Gayane Abrahamyan is a reporter for the ArmeniaNow.com
weekly in Yerevan.

Zangezur Copper-Molybdenum Plant Leads Top 1000 Taxpayers Chart In A

ZANGEZUR COPPER-MOLYBDENUM PLANT LEADS TOP 1000 TAXPAYERS CHART IN ARMENIA

ARKA News Agency
Jan 29 2008
Armenia

YEREVAN, January 29. /ARKA/. The Zangezur Copper-Molybdenum Plant
led the top 1000 taxpayer’s chart in Armenia in 2007, according to
the RA Tax Service.

The company paid AMD 33.6bln to the state budget in 2007 against AMD
32.8bln in 2006. Out of the total sum, AMD 31.7bln was collected by
taxation authorities, AMD 1.9bln by the RA Customs Service.

The assessed taxes (income tax, tax on profits) and indirect taxes
totaled AMD 11.8bln and AMD 19.1bln. The plant’s fixed return amount
to AMD 133.1mln, other taxes and duties totaling AMD 2.6bln.

The 1000 principal taxpayers of Armenia paid about AMD 378.8bln to
the RA state budget in 2007, the RA Tax Service reports.

The Zangezur Copper-Molybdenum Plant CJSC is the largest mining and
smelting enterprises in Armenia. The company’s investment program
2005-2020 totals $240mln. The plant’s share in the global molybdenum
mining industry is 3%. Its ore reserves will be sufficient for 150
years. The molybdenum concentrate produced in the Zangezur Plant
contains 50% molybdenum, and the molybdenum copper concentrate contains
about 15% copper.

Cars Of Ter Petrosyan’s Supporters Are Detained

CARS OF TER-PETROSYAN’S SUPPORTERS ARE DETAINED

A1+
29 January, 2008

The employees of the RA Police detain the cars which escorted the RA
First President Levon Ter-Petrosyan during a car march yesterday. The
Police have already brought some cars to the Department. No detailed
information is received, since the action is still in the process. The
Police Department informed "A1+" that a criminal case was started
by the Article 316 of the RA Criminal Code, which foresees a fine
punishment or imprisonment to 5 years.

On 28 January road police submitted a report to the Yerevan Police
Department, that 150-200 cars escorting the RA Presidential Candidate
Levon Ter-Petrosyan’s car, ignored the traffic signals on Demirchyan
and Baghramyan crossway and continued the traffic on Baghramyan avenue,
jeopardizing lives of inspectors and other participants of the traffic.

ANKARA: Deep State Gang Planned To Kill Pamuk

DEEP STATE GANG PLANNED TO KILL PAMUK

Today’s Zaman
Jan 25 2008
Turkey

Since the detainment earlier this week of dozens of members of a
crime gang, part of a shadowy network that masterminded many attacks
in Turkey whose perpetrators have not been found, an investigation
into the gang has revealed more of the group’s plans, newspapers
reported on Thursday.

The gang was plotting to kill Nobel Literature Prize-winning author
Orhan Pamuk and had already hired the hit man to do the job, the
investigation found. Thirty-three suspects accused of being part of
the gang, which calls itself Ergenekon, were detained by the Ýstanbul
Police Department’s counterterrorism unit in Ýstanbul and other
parts of the country in dawn raids on Tuesday, the culmination of an
eight-month operation. The police have been observing the actions of
the suspects for three-quarters of a year as part of an investigation
into a house full of explosives and ammunition found in a shantytown
in Ýstanbul’s Umraniye district in the June of 2007.

The investigation has found that the gang is linked to a clandestine
phenomenon referred to as the "deep state" in Turkey that stages
attacks using "behind-the-scene" paramilitary organizations such
as Ergenekon to foment public opinion according its own political
agenda. Ergenekon is the title of a legend that describes how Turks
came into existence.

This particular gang is suspected of involvement in a number of
political attacks on individuals and institutions, including the
murder of ethnic Armenian journalist Hrant Dink. At least eight of
the suspects are retired from the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK).

The suspects, who include retired military generals, journalists and
underground bosses, have not yet been charged and are still under
interrogation, but the police found a list of people the gang had
planned to assassinate, including pro-Kurdish Democratic Society Party
(DTP) deputies Ahmet Turk, Leyla Zana and Sebahat Tuncel; Diyarbakýr
Mayor Osman Baydemir; Nobel Prize-winning author Pamuk; and journalist
Fehmi Koru, who is also a regular columnist for Today’s Zaman.

Pamuk was their next target

Charges of denigrating Turkishness had once been brought against
Pamuk over remarks he made to a Swiss newspaper about the number of
Kurds and Armenians killed in Turkey. Pamuk was apparently the next
planned assassination on the gang’s list. According to daily Posta,
Ret. Maj. Gen. Veli Kucuk, who was detained in Tuesday’s raid, had
contacted through Muhammed Yuce — a former army sergeant — Ret.

Col. Fikri Karadað, requesting he find them a hit man to do the job.

Karadað is the leader of the ultranationalist Association for the
Union of Patriotic Forces (VKGB), whose leaders are already under
detainment facing several charges for crimes from theft and felony
to blackmail and extortion. Also, at least two VKGB members were
detained in relation to the Ergenekon investigation in Diyarbakýr
on Wednesday. The hit man they found was identified by the police as
Selim A. The Ergenekon crowd found YTL 2 million — the pay promised
to Selim A. — and a Glock revolver for the assassination. Selim A.

was captured after the police found out about the plan by monitoring
phone conversations. In addition to Selim A. and Kucuk, Karadað and
Yuce were also detained in Tuesday’s operation.

An unresolved murder resolved?

Police have found evidence linking the Ergenekon gang to the
assassination of Necip Hablemitoðlu, shot to death in 2002 after
concluding that residents of the Bergama region campaigning against
gold prospecting in their area were manipulated by Germans protecting
their economic interests, in a comprehensive study he conducted on
the subject. An Ýzmir businessman questioned over the Hablemitoðlu
murder as a key suspect was later killed by a hand-grenade thrown
into his Alsancak office, which was allegedly the work of the gang
to keep him silent. The businessman reportedly threatened the gang,
saying he would confess if they failed to pay him the money they
promised for the academic’s assassination.

The man to lead the investigation

Various reports that appeared in Turkish newspapers on Thursday
praised prosecutor Zekeriya Oz, who is leading the Umraniye arms depot
investigation, for his bravery. Daily Taraf said the main reason
the Ergenekon suspects were able to be found was that the fearless
prosecutor did not give up on following through on the investigation
until the end, despite threats he received from retired TSK members
Oktay Yýldýrým and Muzaffer Tekin, who were detained in the initial
stage of the Umraniye investigation.

Taraf quoted a senior police officer as saying he is like a
"kamikaze." The same source told the daily: "He would not have been
able to take the investigation so far without solid evidence.

Ýstanbul Police Chief Celalettin Cerrah even stopped when he saw the
names the investigation was leading to, but Oz did not stop. Mr. Oz
is a fighter, and he believes in the supremacy of law. The prosecutor
conducted a very lengthy investigation process. He spent days and
nights at the police department."

Meet the gang members

The suspects detained in Tuesday’s operation included Kucuk, a
retired major general who is also the alleged founder of an illegal
intelligence unit in the gendarmerie, the existence of which is
denied by officials; the controversial ultranationalist lawyer
Kemal Kerincsiz, who filed countless suits against Turkish writers
and intellectuals who were at odds with Turkey’s official policies;
Fikret Karadað, a retired army colonel; Sevgi Erenerol, the press
spokesperson for a group called the Turkish Orthodox Patriarchate;
Guler Komurcu, a columnist for the Ak?am daily; and Sami Ho?tan, a
key figure in an investigation launched after a car accident in 1996
near the small town of Susurluk that uncovered links between a police
chief, a convicted fugitive who was an ultranationalist and a deputy.

Ali Yasak, a well-known gangster linked to the figures in the Susurluk
incident, was also detained in the operation.

Special Bureau chief also detained

Yet another suspect was taken into custody on Thursday as part of
the Ergenekon operation. A man named Erkut Ersoy, who founded an
organization called the Special Bureau Intelligence Group — which
according to Ersoy himself has submitted intelligence to certain state
agencies since 1998 — was detained. Ersoy is known to be a good friend
of Karadað. This unique organization is a private intelligence unit
whose employees collect information as regular intelligence officers.

In an earlier interview with the press, Ersoy said that 756 people from
a variety of fields, from students, doctors and housewives to lawyers,
worked with the Special Bureau. Ersoy said that his organization was
similar to the "White Forces," a special unit made up of civilian
staff under the TSK’s Special War Department. Ersoy also claimed the
group had people from the Turkish General Staff and the National
Intelligence Organization (MÝT) as well as police officers among
its staff. He stated that they reported individuals or vehicles that
seemed suspicious to the relevant authorities.

According to Ersoy’s own description of this rather strange company,
he set up the Special Bureau to solve problems his acquaintances
from various official intelligence units would frequently talk
about. "We said if there is such a demand, we should have it [this
organization]. This is how we set up the group in Ýstanbul." Special
Bureau agents say they fight every terrorist organization, particularly
the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK), and against Armenian genocide
allegations.

This unique structure is according to Ersoy not an alternative to
the state’s own sources of intelligence. "We are not rivals to them,
nor do we desire to take on their duties. We are only supporting the
state’s security institutions. We help them to complete certain things
faster and get results. Some people are afraid to apply directly to
the police for their own reasons. We act as intermediaries. Soon we
will set up a [hot] line to report crimes.

All our work is done with the knowledge of the state’s own intelligence
agencies. They protect us. We wouldn’t have been able to do this
otherwise."

Ersoy also said their bureau was open to everyone who wanted to
be recruited, as long as they were patriotic or sympathetic to
nationalists. "We are a nationalist group, at the end of the day,"
he had said. Ýstanbul Today’s Zaman

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