Turkish Oppositionists Shocked At Clinton’s Question On Armenia-Turk

TURKISH OPPOSITIONISTS SHOCKED AT CLINTON’S QUESTION ON ARMENIA-TURKEY TIES

yerkir.am
15:00 – 19.07.2011

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who is taking part in the
meeting of the Contact Group on Libya in Istanbul, met with leaders
of Turkish oppositional Republican People’s Party and Kurdish “Peace
and Democracy” party.

During the meeting members of the Republican People’s party were
shocked by Clinton’s question why the oppositionists spoke against
the Armenian-Turkish Protocols, Hurriyet newspaper reports.

“The authorities say they do not submit Armenia-Turkey accords to
parliament for ratification, as Republican People’s party speaks
against it” Clinton said. The party leader Kemal Kilicdaroglu was
greatly surprised at the statement, saying the authorities form
a majority in the parliament and they may pass the documents at
any time. He stressed the Turkish authorities did not provide them
information on the protocols and the Karabakh problem and they were
forced to keep track of the developments through mass media.

The Camel’s Homeland: A Western Armenian Puppet Show In New Jersey

THE CAMEL’S HOMELAND: A WESTERN ARMENIAN PUPPET SHOW IN NEW JERSEY

AZG DAILY
20-07-2011

Some 130 children and adults crowded into the hall of the
Armenian-American Support and Education Center on June 11 to see
an Armenian-language puppet show, “Ughdin Hayrenike” [The Camel’s
Homeland], performed by children. The show was organized by Vartan
Garniki’s Hye Theater Studio, Armenian Mirror Spectator’s June 25
article reports.

Seven young Armenians performed with their puppets a dramatized
Western-Armenian version of a short story by Sergey Vardanian of
Yerevan. Vardanian originally published a set of children’s short
stories in Yerevan in 1989 called Arevadzaghig [Sunflower], which
was translated by Makruhi Hagopian and published in Western Armenian
in Istanbul in 1994. Vardanian, today working at the Archaeology
and Ethnology Institute of the Armenian Academy of Sciences, worked
for many years as a journalist and also served from 1991 to 2002 as
the vice president of the State Council on Religious Affairs of the
Republic of Armenia. He has organized a movement to collect folkloric
materials in Armenian schools in Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan,
Mountainous Karabagh, Nakhichevan, Abkhazia and Krasnodar (Russia),
which were published in two volumes in 1981 and 2003. He has published
a volume on the twelve historical capitals of Armenia, first in 1985,
and then in an enlarged edition in 1995, and is a specialist on the
Hamshen Armenians of Central Asia and founding editor of the monthly
Dzayn Hamshenakan [Hamshen Voice].

The plot of the play concerns a camel that sets off to find his
homeland and convinces other animals he meets along the way to join
him. When they arrive in the desert, the other animals realize that
this may be an ideal home for the camel but it is too hot and in
general unsuitable for them. They then return to their original homes
with renewed appreciation of their own value. The story can be taken
as a parable for Armenians scattered throughout the world.

Naturally, a show performed by children may not be perfect in all
aspects of its presentation, but in this particular instance, it was
appropriate for the children in the audience, who seemed to enjoy
it greatly. My own two boys eagerly asked when the next performance
would take place. Such plays should be constants in the arsenal of
tools to make Western Armenian relevant to children. Several children
apparently afterwards expressed an interest in participating in
future performances.

The positive effects of the play were not limited to the children in
the audience. Director Vartan Garniki told the audience that some of
the children in the play, who are of varying ages, did not know much
Armenian when they began their rehearsals. In fact, one boy could
only recite his lines and did not understand any Armenian at all.

Garniki has organized similar plays for children for the Khrimian
Lyceum of the Diocese of the Armenian Church of America (Eastern). He
established Hye Theater Studio in 2006 and its first performance,
“Honest Person,” was performed by children and based on four tales
by Hovhannes Toumanian. Hye Theater Studio has also presented two
plays for adults in Armenian.

Garniki (Oganesian) was born in Yerevan, and inspired by his father,
a well-known reciter and actor, he studied drama at the Theatrical
Institute there. His final project won first prize at the Moscow
Festival of Russian Dramaturgy. Afterwards, he worked as an actor
five years before becoming director of the Alexander Shirvanzade State
Dramatic Theater of Kapan, where he directed over twenty productions
from 1985 to 1992. Garniki established his first puppet theater while
in Kapan in 1988 with his wife and two sons. He and his family moved to
the United States in the early 1990s. In 2002, he joined the Tekeyan
Cultural Association’s Mher Megerdichian Theatrical Group and served
as its artistic director for six years. His wife, Anahid Oganesian,
was the stage and puppet designer for “Ughdin Hayrenike.”

Garniki works in theater as a labor of love. He exclaimed, “Drama,
I have to do – if I didn’t do it, I would not be myself!” To make
a living, he works as a tour guide, showing Russian and Armenian
speakers the sights in New York City, Philadelphia, Atlantic City,
Niagara Falls and elsewhere. He arranged with Armenian military
attache Col. Mesrop Nazarian that any profit from “Ughdin Hayrenike”
will be donated to the children of Armenian soldiers who died in the
struggle for the liberation of Artsakh. Several more performances of
this puppet play are planned for this fall at Armenian schools and
churches in the New York and New Jersey area.

Naira Zohrabyan: "The Armenian-Turkish Protocols May Be Discussed On

NAIRA ZOHRABYAN: “THE ARMENIAN-TURKISH PROTOCOLS MAY BE DISCUSSED ONLY WHEN TURKEY RENOUNCES ITS PRECONDITIONS”

ARMENPRESS
JULY 18, 2011
YEREVAN

The Armenian-Turkish protocols may be discussed only when Turkey
renounces its preconditions, says Naira Zohrabyan, chairperson of
the National Assembly Standing Committee on European Integration,
member of the Armenian delegation to PACE, deputy of the Prosperous
Armenia faction.

Naira Zohrabyan reported Armenpress that it is now Turkey’s turn. “The
Armenian party stated that at any moment when Turkey renounces the
preconditions, it will be ready to revitalize the process, which was
frozen at the parliament. It is Turkey to say whether it abandons its
policy of preconditions or not. I addressed this question to Turkey’s
president, prime minister, foreign minister. Their responses, actually,
are the same. They connect the Armenian-Turkish relations with the
Nagorno Karabakh issue,” Naira Zohrabyan said.

The deputy reminded that the superpowers have stated for many times
that the Nagorno Karabakh issue and the Armenian-Turkish relations
are wholly different processes, “however this was not an obstacle
for Turkey to lead the process to a deadlock.

Une Petite Messe A Diyarbakir Signe D’Une Reconciliation Plus Grande

UNE PETITE MESSE A DIYARBAKIR SIGNE D’UNE RECONCILIATION PLUS GRANDE
Stephane

armenews.com
lundi 18 juillet 2011

Une messe a eu lieu dans l’eglise armenienne de Surp Giragos a
Diyarbakir a annonce la quotidien turc Hurriyet.

” Les sons de l’appel a la prière et des cloches des eglises se
melangeront ici sur cette terre dorenavant ” a declare le Maire de
Diyarbekir Osman Baydemir après le service religieux.

” Il y a eu d’importantes tristesses dans le passe. Nous [condamnons]
ces jours impitoyables dans nos coeurs et nous voulons un nouveau
commencement ” a ajoute l’elu.

” Diyarbakir etait une ville multiculturelle dans le passe mais nous
avons perdu beaucoup avec la politique de la Republique [Turque]. Pour
etre capable de ressusciter la paix sociale, les lecons doivent etre
apprises du passe et l’histoire a besoin d’etre affrontee ” a ajoute
Osman Baydemir.

Abdullah Demirbas maire de Sur a indique que la commune avait recemment
imprime le poète armenien Hovhannes Tumanyan ” Gatil mi Meghr ”
[une goutte de miel] en armenien.

” Contes pour enfants, histoire pour adultes ; nous rendons hommage
a ceux qui ont vecu sur ces terres sans s’occuper des langues ”
a declare Abdullah Demirbas.

Defini comme la plus grande eglise dans le Moyen-Orient par quelques
experts, Surp Giragos accueillera un service religieux plus grandiose
en octobre.

Le dernier armenien a avoir vecu dans Diyarbakir, le vieux Sarkis
Bedrosyan 81 ans, a dit que c’etait un sentiment special de voir Surp
Giragos de ses propres yeux encore une fois.

Il a ajoute ” le maire a parle d’une verite qui a ete oubliee dans
cette ville. Le passe armenien a ete mentionne ; c’etait extremement
important “.

L’homme d’affaires armenien d’Istanbul qui a commence le processus
de restauration de l’eglise de Diyarbakir Ergun Ayik s’est declare
heureux, mais a ajoute qu’il aurait voulu qu’il y ait eu plus d’appui
pour l’eglise.

Le coût total de la restauration est estime a 2,5 millions de $.

Turkish Government Has Decided To Support Armenian Newspapers

TURKISH GOVERNMENT HAS DECIDED TO SUPPORT ARMENIAN NEWSPAPERS

epress.am
07.18.2011

The Justice and Development Party (AK Party) government has decided to
lend support to newspapers and weeklies published by minority groups
in Turkey, which have recently been experiencing difficulties due to
financial problems, Today’s Zaman reports.

The newspapers in question are Greek dailies Apoyevmatini and İho,
Armenian dailies Nor Marmara and Jamanak, Armenian weekly Agos and
Jewish weekly Å~^alom.

The Prime Ministry’s Press Advertising Agency (BİK) Director General
Mehmet Atalay plans to meet with officials from the six publications
on July 26 to discuss their problems. Atalay spoke to the press about
the meeting and said the AK Party government is willing to help solve
the issues, mostly financial, faced by minority publications. “We have
launched efforts to allow [minority] publications to receive state
aid. We will either amend the existing regulations or pass new ones,”
he said.

Atalay’s meeting with minority publications is part of the government’s
bid to see Turkey admitted as a member of the European Union. Turkey
has so far ignored the problems faced by minority publications. After
the Jun. 12 parliamentary elections, Turkey Prime Minister Recep Tayyip
Erdogan decided to deal with these problems by making it easier for
the publications to benefit from state aid. In Turkey, publications
by minority groups were previously not allowed to receive any state
financial assistance.

Asked about the content of the upcoming meeting with minority
publications, Atalay said the meeting will help develop a roadmap for
the government to decide how to make financial aid available to the
publications. “We will listen to officials of minority publications
and develop a roadmap. They will tell us about their problems and
needs. We will also exchange views about a financial aid plan for
the publications and share our opinions about effective journalism,”
he added.

Kiro Manoyan: "The Situation Is Not So As Our Authorities Present"

KIRO MANOYAN: “THE SITUATION IS NOT SO AS OUR AUTHORITIES PRESENT”

Noyan Tapan

15.07.2011

(Noyan Tapan – 15.07.2011) The statement of Russian President satisfied
neither of the sides. The head of the ARF Armenian Cause and Political
Affairs Office Kiro Manoyan informed about this at the meeting with
journalists held on July 15. “Though the sides didn’t agree to sign
a document in Kazan the Russian President’s efforts to do something
are evident. The Azerbaijan side tried to go back to the principles
of 2009. Ashton’s several approvals were more remarkable which shows
that our diplomacy has not worked well in several regions.

This situation shows that the situation is not so as our authorities
present”, he said. ARF representative doesn’t think that Armenian
Authorities will agree to any principles where the NKR status is not
definitely outlined.

K. Manoyan noted that ARF has always been against the policy
carried out by Armenian authorities. “As far as the Nagorno-Karabakh
authorities are concerned, it is clear that they should take part
in the negotiation process over the conflict,” said he adding that
regardless of the fact who is the President he should carry out the
right policy.

www.nt.am

Gerard Collomb, Le Maire De Lyon A Erevan

GERARD COLLOMB, LE MAIRE DE LYON A EREVAN
Krikor Amirzayan

armenews.com
samedi 16 juillet 2011

la delegation lyonnaise sera en Armenie jusqu’au 20 juillet

A l’invitation du Maire de la capitale armenienne, Gerard Collomb,
le Maire de Lyon, accompagne d’une delegation est en Armenie du 15
au 20 juillet. Des responsables des transports, de la culture, de
l’education, de l’urbanisme, des chefs d’entreprises et des medias
accompagnent Gerard Collomb a Erevan. Des rencontres avec le president
Serge Sarkissian, le president du Parlement Hovig Abrahamian, le
maire d’Erevan Garen Garabedian et le ministre des Affaires etrangères
Edouard Nalbandian sont au programme de la delegation lyonnaise. Cette
dernière se rendra egalement au memorial du genocide. De nombreux
accords de cooperation entre Erevan et Lyon sont au programme des
rencontres.

Armenia Ranked Sixth In World Team Chess Championship

ARMENIA RANKED SIXTH IN WORLD TEAM CHESS CHAMPIONSHIP

news.am
July 15 2011
Armenia

YEREVAN. – Chinese Ningbo city will host opening ceremony of World
Team Chess Championship 2011 on Saturday. The first round will take
place on Sunday. The strongest ten teams of the world participate
in the championship: Chine, as an organizer country, Russia, Ukraine
and Israel, continental champions Azerbaijan, India, U.S., Egypt and
Armenia that received the invitation from FIDE president.

Armenia with 2678 points rates the sixth after Russia, Azerbaijan,
Ukraine, China, Hungary.

Levon Aronyan, Sergey Movsisyan, Vladimir Hakobyan, Gabriel Sargsyan,
and Robert, Hovhannisyan will represent Armenia.

Georgia Church-State Dispute in Tbilisi Exposes Anti-Armenian Undert

Church-State Dispute in Tbilisi Exposes Anti-Armenian Undertones
July 15, 2011 – 1:28pm, by Molly Corso
GeorgiaEurasiaNet’s Weekly DigestReligion

A boy is baptized at St. George Kvashveti Church in Tbilisi in May
2007. A surge in popularity, coupled with the high standing of
Patriarch Ilia II, head of the Georgian Orthodox Church, has made the
church one of the most influential institutions in Georgia. (Photo:
Molly Corso) A dispute over efforts to strengthen the legal rights of
minority religions has opened a new fault line in Georgia’s fractured
political landscape. It is also helping to define the limits of the
governing United National Movement’s influence.

Civil code amendments, passed on July 5, will allow `those faiths that
are considered legal religions by member countries of the European
Council’ to register as full-fledged religious
organizations. Previously, such groups were only able to register as
charities or non-government organizations.

The changes, which have been praised by the international community,
sparked outrage among Georgian Orthodox Church faithful, many of whom
see them as an attempt to undermine the Church’s special role in
society, a position facilitated by funding from the state budget and
tax breaks. During an early July protest, hundreds of Georgian
Orthodox believers and priests marched through downtown Tbilisi,
carrying Georgian icons and flags, to the city’s main Sameba (Holy
Trinity) Cathedral. The protest, one of the largest ` and most
colorful ` in recent memory, offered a powerful reminder of the
popular strength of the Georgian Orthodox Church.

At the core of Church supporters’ opposition is a concern that the law
will make it possible for the Armenian Apostolic Church to contest the
ownership of scores of churches. A wave of anti-Armenian sentiment has
bubbled to the surface in TV talk shows, blogs and Facebook
discussions on the amendments.

Much of the heated rhetoric started to subside on July 12 after a
meeting of the Church’s Holy Synod, which called for calm. At the same
time, the synod urged parliament in the future to discuss with the
Patriarchate draft legislation related to religion so as `to avoid any
possible complications.’ President Mikheil Saakashvili attended a
liturgy conducted by Patriarch Ilia II at Svetitskhoveli Cathedral the
following day, providing a visual reminder that tension had eased.

The speed of the vote on the amendments ` after just a few days of
parliamentary debate ` and the vote’s timing — on the heels of a
publicized trip to Tbilisi by the head of the Armenian Apostolic
Church, Catholicos Garegin II ` helped fuel tension, noted Giorgi
Khutsishvili, director of the International Center on Conflict and
Negotiation.

The lack of extensive preliminary discussions with Patriarch Ilia II
— a man generally seen as the most revered public figure in Georgia `
created an appearance that the governing party was `arrogant,’
Khutsishvili said. The 78-year-old patriarch had requested that the
final vote be delayed until a full discussion with the Church could be
held.

`I think that lots of things in Georgia are politicized which are not
really political. And sometimes some actions of the government
contribute to politicizing the issues,’ Khutsishvili said.

United National Movement MP Davit Darchiashvili, who supported the
amendments, told EurasiaNet.org that the changes had been under
discussion for `a long time.’ [Editor’s note: Darchiashvili formerly
served as executive director of the Open Society Assistance Foundation
` Georgia, part of the Soros Foundations network. EurasiaNet.org
operates under the auspices of the Open Society Institute, a separate
part of the Soros network].

`If taken from July, one may ask why [the law was passed] so quickly,
but sometimes too long discussions can be — sometimes
–counterproductive,’ he said. `It could have just caused additional
sparks of emotion ¦ and in the end the issue would have been
undecided again. If we believe it needs to be done, let’s just do it.’

Darchiashvili dismissed allegations that the government felt pressured
by Catholicos Garegin II’s visit. `Several religious denominations
felt [their old status as non-governmental organizations] as
discrimination,’ he said. `If that is how they perceived it, why
shouldn’t we address that concern?’

The Georgian Orthodox Church, though, functions as more than just a
religious institution; its privileged position and growing popularity
has made it a `political actor,’ said Marine Chitashvili, the director
of Tbilisi State University’s Center for Social Sciences. `[Patriarch
Ilia II] is still an authority. ¦ He has no authority de jure, but,
de facto, he has a huge authority,’ Chitashvili said.

Chitashvili described the resurgence of nationalism amid the debate
over the status of minority religions as `artificial,’ a phenomenon
brought on by people’s shock that the decision was made so quickly,
and not based on any real animosity between Georgians and
Armenians. Even so, efforts by the Armenian minority in Georgia to
broaden their cultural rights have rankled officials in Tbilisi. The
Georgian and Armenian governments also went through a bout of tension
in 2009, when two Georgian-Armenian community activists faced
espionage allegations.

The two countries have the world’s oldest (Armenia) and third oldest
(Georgia) organized churches, and signs of a cultural rivalry are
evident.

Khutsishvili said the controversy over the amendments serves as a
reminder that the separation between religion and politics in Georgia
is not wide. `[I]t showed once again that religion is the most
sensitive issue in Georgia,’ he said. `It is also somehow a risk that
in the future any dispute on a religious issue may easily grow into a
political one.’

La Corse Invite L’Armenie Et Le Karabagh

LA CORSE INVITE L’ARMENIE ET LE KARABAGH
Stephane

armenews.com
jeudi 14 juillet 2011,

L’Associu Scopre en collaboration avec l’Association Culturelle
Armenienne des Pennes Mirabeau et en partenariat avec Tavagna Club,
organise trois journees d’echanges entre la Corse, l’Armenie et
le Karabagh. L’evenement se deroulera a Marignana & Talasani les
15-16-17 juillet 2011 en presence de l’ambassadeur d’Armenie, du Haut
representant du Karabagh du maire des 13ème et 14ème arrondissements
de Marseille, ainsi que d’elus corses. Paul Ceccaldi de l’association
Associu Scopre et Annie Stepanow presidente de l’Association Culturelle
Armenienne des Pennes-Mirabeau ont bien voulu repondre a nos questions.

Armenews : Faire connaître l’Armenie et le Karabagh en Corse est un
challenge audacieux. Comment ce projet a-t-il vu le jour ?

Paul Ceccaldi : L’Associu Scopre a ete creee en 1988 par un petit
groupe de personnes qui n’avait pas conscience au depart de mettre le
doigt dans l’engrenage de l’utopie. Nous sommes demeures d’eternels
enfants avides de decouvertes mais conscients du serieux de tout
travail d’enfant. Refusant la fatalite, l’association grâce a tous ses
membres s’est toujours engagee sous la bannière de l’utopie. L’associu
Scopre signifie ” l’Association decouvrir “, decouvrir les autres, se
decouvrir. Notre aventure a debute en 1990 par un festival du cinema
Corse. Il n’y avait pas de faste mais la volonte d’echanger, de se
comprendre et de communiquer. Notre utopie est de faire bouger les
lignes, d’etre près des gens, c’est une autre approche. Decouvrir et
faire decouvrir est notre leitmotiv c’est pourquoi quand un couple dont
la femme est armenienne habitant le village nous a sollicite pour faire
decouvrir l’Armenie nous avons dit oui. Ce sont toujours des relations
personnalisees et c’est ainsi que j’ai fait la connaissance d’Annie
Stepanow. Nous avons mis sur pieds ces trois jours de rencontre.

Annie Stepanow : C’est une opportunite très interessante de faire
connaître a la fois l’Armenie et le Karabagh qui est soutenu par
l’Ambassadeur. Les Corses sont un peuple authentique, autochtone.

Armeniens et Corses se ressemblent et partagent les memes valeurs.

Armenews : Quel sera le programme de ces trois jours de festivite ?

Paul Ceccaldi : Les trois journees sont organisees avec le soutien
du Tavagna Club et des mairies de Marignana, Cristinacce et Evisa.

Vendredi 15 Juillet dans le village de Marignana a 14 h sera projete
un documentaire sur le Karabagh suivi d’un debat avec l’ambassadeur
d’Armenie Monsieur Viguen TCHITETCHIAN, du haut representant de
la Republique du Karabagh M.Hovannes GUEVORKIAN et de Monsieur GARO
HOVSEPIAN Maire du 13/14ième arrondissement de Marseille et Conseiller
Regional.

A 18 h il ya aura un concert de musique instrumentale armenienne avec
Artak PETROSYAN (violon), Kristine PETROSYAN CHILINGARYAN (chanteuse)
et Inta KOVALEVSKAYA (violoncelle). Musique liturgique, classique
et folklorique.

A 21h30 sera projete un film ” Le Fils du marchand d’olives ” qui
sera suivi d’un debat sur l’Armenie et sa relation avec le Karabagh.

Manouk, musicien autodidacte et Arsen, diplôme du concours de musique
tariste animeront la journee.

Dans le village de Talasani le meme jour aura lieu une conference
sur la religion armenienne suivi d’une demonstration de la troupe de
danse Ani.

Samedi 16 Juillet dans le village de Cristinacce a 14h aura lieu
une presentation historique des trois villages par Dominique-Antoine
GERONIMI suivie a 15h par une Messe chantee celebree par le pretre
armenien Dertad BASIKIAN avec le concourt de Mme BAZIKIAN en l’Eglise
Sainte Marie de Cristinacce.

Dans le village de Marignana a 18h sera projete un film sur l’Armenie
suivi a 21h30 Place de la Fontaine a Marignana d’une soiree musicale
et de danse. Tutti in piazza et la troupe de danse ANI dirige par
Lilit SARIBEKYAN seront presents. La danse pour Lilit tient un rôle
important dans l’histoire de la culture armenienne, laquelle vieille
de plus de 2000 ans, puise ses racines dans la vie quotidienne,
exprimant les sentiments de joie, de peine et d’amour. Dans cet
esprit, elle veut donner a la troupe un souffle nouveau, un style
moderne d’expression des joies de l’âme armenienne a travers la danse.

La soiree se terminera par de l’initiation.

Dans le village de Talasani le meme jour sera projete un film ” Le
Fils du marchand d’olives ” qui sera suivi d’un concert de musique
instrumentale armenienne avec Artak PETROSYAN (violon), Kristine
PETROSYAN CHILINGARYAN (chanteuse) et Inta KOVALEVSKAYA (violoncelle).

Musique liturgique, classique et folklorique.

Dimanche 17 juillet dans le village de Marignana a 9h atelier de
cuisine corse et armenienne suivi a 11h en l’eglise Saint Jacques
de Marignana d’une Messe celebree par le cure M. Pinelli en langue
corse, avec la participation du groupe Tavagna, des chants et musique
armenienne avec la soprano Lucine HAMAZASPYAN et des musiciens Artak
PETROSYAN (violon), Inta KOVALEVSKAYA (violoncelle).

Armenews : Quelles sont les personnalites attendues ?

Paul Ceccaldi : Comme je l’ai indique tout a l’heure du côte armenien
nous attendons l’ambassadeur d’Armenie Monsieur Viguen TCHITETCHIAN, le
haut representant de la Republique du Karabagh M.Hovannes GUEVORKIAN et
Monsieur GARO HOVSEPIAN Maire du 13/14ième arrondissement de Marseille
et Conseiller Regional. Du côte des personnalites corses nous attendons
Dominique BUCCHINI President de l’Assemblee de Corse, Simon RENUCCI
depute-maire d’Ajaccio, Paul GIACOBBI president du conseil executif
de la Collectivite territoriale de Corse, Francois ALFONSI, le seul
depute europeen corse ainsi que d’autres elus dont ceux des villages
qui nous accueillent. Une reunion politique aura par ailleurs lieu
vendredi 15 juillet a 16h afin de lancer des echanges politiques.