Come on, the founder of your state is from Karabakh. How I Stand Saying Forget… Edg

May 222026

Edgar Elbakyan imagines the future of Armenia very sadly, noting that “now we are in a pre-genocide situation”, but he is convinced that Pashinyan’s attempts to destroy the Armenian national identity and create a “CP identity” have failed. 168 TVof Revue in an interview with the program, talking about the topic of national identity, the identity and differences of the homeland and the state, and the current processes, political scientist Edgar Elbakyan answered the important questions, what is Armenia in general and what is Armenia about?

The political scientist emphasizes that Armenia is a national state.

“I imagine the future of Armenia very sadly, because the issue is not pluralism. You know, we can have a very healthy society where people don’t agree on the tax code or uniforms in schools, but when we argue about what Armenia is, living in a society, and there’s clearly an ideological camp that says, Armenia is the historical and cultural continuation. If we say: let’s forget genocide, let’s forget Karabakh, Tigranashen, land issue, Khorenatsi, Mount Masis, what is left underneath, just our biological reserve? “Armenia is a national state, or at least ideally it should be,” said Edgar Elbakyan.

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The political scientist clarifies that Pashinyan’s behavior of measuring the Motherland purely materially, with roads, kindergartens and restaurants, and not with spiritual and national values, in the general picture of the rejection of Artsakh, is very typical of today’s politics, because with the temporary weakening of the role of religions and the church, politics has turned into a kind of religion, but the good news is that we are already gradually entering the next transformation phase, when religion and the church are valued again.

“When he announces that a kindergarten and a school have not been built in Artsakh, and people applaud, don’t be surprised, because he appeals to the self-reliant part of people, to the emotional part of people. It has become their identity. They made this their identity. In fact, I will call this anti-Armenianism, and see how it was built. Identity is built there when you are able to first divide into “us” and “them” and most importantly, you are able to explain to people the reason for their suffering. They try to convince that “you are suffering because of being Armenian”. Of course, they stated that “you are suffering because of Karabakh”.

It was clear that in reality Karabakh is not the issue, but the national struggle, they were just hiding it, that it is a conflict, it is an expenditure of resources, this, that. Now it has already become. “You will not live well if you look at Mount Masis. You will not live well, because Mashtots has not become a QR code. You will not live well, how many Raffi you read, Khorenatsi you read”, and so on. He does not accidentally say that September 19 [of 2023] is the day of Armenia’s independence. This is the most vulgarized form of a liberal approach to identity, when you are “liberated” from yourself, from your identity,” commented the political scientist.

Speaking about the hidden process of handing over territories and the conversations surrounding it, Edgar Elbakyan mentioned.

«I am sure that Tigranashen is the first, or maybe they will start from the so-called Soflu-Barkhudarlu in Tavush marz. It depends on how the elections will be held, if they are held, with what advantage, how ready will people be? I am saying something that is a bit painful for us, but the Turks are just looking at where their enemies are weaker. Kemal, for example, in 1920 in May it was decided whether to attack the Greeks or the Armenians. He saw that the Armenians are weaker, he decided to start with the Armenians…

Now they look at it as a weak military front, or “well, where is the best place to start?”, so they cut Armenia like a cake, but they definitely want to surrender Tigranashen, and if it is surrendered, it will turn into an Azerbaijani military base. it has no other meaning for Azerbaijanis. The Goris-Kapan road will look like a playground in front of it. There will be a military base under Yerevan’s nose. Old people must remember that during the Soviet years, Azerbaijanis wrote Brezhnev’s famous speech in large letters on the hill in front of Tigranashen. “Azerbaijan walks wide”. Another form of psychological violence against Armenians»։

Elbakyan also added. “In general, the founder of our state, the one who says: state, state, do it, the founder of your state is from Karabakh. Aram Manukyan is from Karabakh. Apart from the fact that Aram Manukyan is from Artsakh, the outcome of the battle of Sardarapat was decided by the Karabakh cavalry… If we start dividing into groups like that, the co-founders of this state are the Sassoons and Mshetsi, who cleaned the skirts of Aragats… In other words, how do you stand and say forget it? There are people. Now give and kill the honey beekeeper so that he forgets that they came from Artsap village. Do you want to erase the memory of those people?’

Full interview in the video.




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