168: Get oriented. who will bring this “disastrous war”? were you here in person?

Nikol Pashinyan’s statement about the need for the CP to obtain a constitutional majority in the National Assembly and scaring people with a “new September war” means that the current government really knows that it has no chance of being re-elected. He expressed such a view 168 TVof Revue on the air of the program political scientist Tevan Poghosyanspeaking about the National Assembly elections to be held in June.

According to the former member of the National Assembly, all external actors are interfering in Armenia’s internal affairs even before the elections have started.

“Before the elections have started, the great powers have already stated their preferences, and these are the same countries that once taught us democracy, which is the opinion of the people. The people’s opinion is: wait patiently, who is asking you to name the candidates? It means that the world has lost everything of democracy, they used to educate us with the vain fairy tales, putting all this aside, we simply understand that we have entered into a wild struggle for power, and the only bearer of power, which is called the people, must have its say,” says Tevan Poghosyan.

According to Poghosyan, if the people will rise up and not allow the intervention of foreign forces, then June 7 will be our election, and if we pay tribute to external pressures: “Oh, Putin said this”, “Trump said this”, “Vance said this”, “Fidan said that” or someone in Europe said something else, then what is the Armenian election?

Putin-Pashinyan April Fool’s Day in Moscow meeting Tevan Poghosyan says: “The world has changed, there is more transparency in diplomacy. today everyone speaks openly like that. Every country advances its interests as best it can. That is how they imagined their interests in Russia, they said. We have heard, we have taken note. But if you look at it from the other side, he also said.

“If Putin won’t call to ask me to meet, I have to call.” So, in his perception, he understood well, he knew where he was going. It means that it does not feel strong, in fact, even those who are acting rely only and only on foreign countries and forces, be it Russia or Europe. Europe was asked to send some “hybrid group”. Armenian atyshniks are the best all over the world, but we invite some people from Europe to give us advice on what is hybrid and what is not. We have fantastic specialists. In fact, the operatives did not rely on the people either. they are looking for a mechanism to maintain their power in external support.”

To the question of “Review”, why did Putin and Pashinyan put the blame for the loss of Artsakh on each other, and who among them was more right in his accusations, the former member of the National Assembly answered: first of all, we are to blame for not being able to keep our land. However, Tevan Poghosyan puts this question aside and pays attention to another question, why the Russian president mentions the Karabakh issue during the meeting with Pashinyan.

“If Russia talks about it, then it had interests there. When America tells you not to talk about Artsakh, then it has interests here too. When Europe says, let’s forget everything, then it is also in their interest. It is the framework of understanding their interests that is necessary to read. If a person did not feel that he lost his interests there, there would not be such a conversation. So he [Putin] considers that there were some previous agreements that you should have acted like this, but you didn’t do it, that’s why I’m accusing you openly about it now. What the President of Russia said that day is the consequence of what he did before, which was revealed that day. I cannot say how many years it is.

For example, in 2021, the same Russia was not against it, they kept the war of 2020 with their teeth, but then that same Russia, without changing people, gives heresy after 5 years. So something happened. Perhaps history will reveal what happened,” Tevan Poghosyan thinks.

To the question of “Review” whether the operatives are anti-Russian or hidden pro-Russian, Poghosyan answered: “They are pro-establishment “кресло”. If necessary, they will become Russian in a day. The fact that you say that I should call and ask for a meeting, why are you surprised that they will tell you whatever you say? Why did you go because something was more important? That something is holding power. Why are you scaring your people with war? A month before that, you said, “it’s over, there’s peace, there won’t be a war.” Who will bring this “catastrophic war”? What does that mean? Who said that it is in person? That you were signing there, were you signing in your own person? Wasn’t it an LLC or a private individual? If it was on behalf of the country, then that peace belongs to the country. The choice is our internal problem. And why do they say: don’t interfere in our internal affairs, the government is formed by the people? Where did all that go? If you signed that document, then there will be peace. Where did this war come from? Orient yourself!’

“Aside from what Russia, America, and Europe said, what have we done?” You told me, as a part of the people, that we are the guarantor of Artsakh. That’s how they came to ask for votes. Was it? And how did they deceive me: the de-occupation of Shushi, the de-occupation of Hadrut, the guarantor of security? Our whole problem is that we meet, we talk about other people’s worries. Where is ours? Deceiving us – nothing? We put this lie aside, we say that we have not seen this, let me think about what they promised and what they did.

Powerful countries always know how to advance their interests, that’s why they are powerful. Let them take care of themselves, we have to live today. If we have decided that it is very good for us, let them deceive us, even more than that, we have reached the historically smallest Armenia from the historical Sea to Sea Armenia, because we have always carried the burdens of others, not our own. Once we went on our own, we were guided, we restored the Motherland a little, in 30 years we fell into the hands of our victory, we decided that we don’t need it,” the interlocutor added.

Tevan Poghosyan notes with pain the current division of the Armenian society, which was sown by the current government, and those “actors” also understand that it is easier to manage in this situation by bringing in the intervention of external forces. “Any nation was able to win only when it relied only on its strength and unity. Unfortunately, our society is divided, and this division has been sown by the perpetrators.

Hybrid war is exactly that, when you see that one Armenian can bribe another Armenian without thinking about anything. This is where our inner caring comes in… We say “dear” to each other, but we have forgotten that word, we have forgotten to bear each other’s pain, love has disappeared from us. The consequence of all this will be that others will take advantage. We live in a region where elements of the third world war are already visible. In any case, our region will no longer be the first, conflicts will continue, but the only resource with which any nation will stand is national unity, which, unfortunately, we do not have. No matter what changes come, if we are going to be divided, we will end up facing the pit of defeat.”

Full interview in the video.

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