168: Putin Said: Think Well… If I Take Out Your Eyes With My Own Fingers, Don’t Complain

Satik Seyranyan’s guest in the “Pressing” program is religious scholar, sociologist and philosopher Vardan Khachatryan.

The main theses of the interview are below.

• When one of the greatest preachers I know, who did a great work in Africa, came to Armenia, he asked me to take him to Etchmiadzin. The Cathedral was not yet renovated. He himself entered, looked at the dark walls and raised his hands, which is not characteristic of Protestants… He surrendered to the sacred, sacred identity of the Armenian people…

• It is not possible to act in the sphere of the spiritual with push and fists, under no circumstances, because it will cause a crack, which cannot and cannot be filled in any way. Spiritual unity cannot be broken. No choice should have anything to do with a singular moment that holds eternity within it. What happened inside the Saint Anna church was an unacceptable process… The church is the cradle, the tabernacle of light, from which the Armenian Christian crowd is fed.

• You can be a participant in the liturgy, a communicator from the last rows, why do you break through the crowd and go to the first rows… There are no high and low people in the world religion, there are believers. It was an excess. It doesn’t matter where you stand during Mass… 

• Only the Mormon choir sings the canonical version of the American national anthem. 1/3 of the population of the USA is in the Mormon sphere, they have a significant weight. 

• The mechanism of violence works to ensure the reproduction of power as much as possible. There is a prosecutor’s office, a thousand and one institutions that ensure the institutional protection of the government, but it cannot be abused.

• It is impossible to find such a people, such a center of gravity, as the Armenians have on the face of the earth.

• Where there is money and power, there is vice, but one cannot look for vice in a power that has internal wealth. these are the words of Confucius.

• Sitting next to Putin with his imagined map of Armenia on his chest meant that Armenia will maintain the foreign policy line it has followed until now. It wasn’t for Putin, it was a photo shoot in front of the cameras, a symbol that will later be able to play during the election campaign.:

• We tried to sign the European Association Agreement (CEPA), and one of the key points in it, for example, was that Armenia would be given a privilege to import light industrial products to Europe, which happened in the case of Georgia. At least I haven’t seen any country that signed up to the euro association that didn’t end badly. What happened to Georgia… Nothing, they said, the level of Georgian wines does not correspond to the level of European wines. That’s it. Georgians lost the huge Russian market, gained nothing in the European market. The French company “Pernod Ricard” bought the Georgian winery, which sold in pennies, because he considered that if the Russian market does not exist, they do not claim any results. Now let’s think about what can replace the Russian market in our case.

• Europe is not the Europe of today, which can do everything and digest. A mega war against Iran has taken place today, and it is not yet known how it will end. America is ready to sacrifice the last American to win that war, just like Europe, the former Prime Minister of Great Britain, Boris Johnson, declared that it was necessary to sacrifice the last Ukrainian to win against the Russians.

• Yesterday’s meeting between Pashinyan and Putin was perhaps the toughest. that was what yesterday’s leitmotif suggested.

• Europe understands that its relationship with the US is in jeopardy. In this case, Europe can have ambitions of future rise only through China, and this can happen only over Azerbaijan, based on which we have to consider our possible steps. Is this compatible with our interests?

• I don’t understand, brother, how Turkey became our friend… every thought of that country is only to slaughter more Armenians.

• Didn’t the Armenian people see the fortune of Syria? If we must learn wisdom and experience only from our own mistakes, we will perish:

• According to Pashinyan, what is Europe and where does he want to go? Is there any analytical document, is there an analysis that, for example, the structure of the economy of Germany, France or Austria is such that we can have a presence there? 

• The 42 km that we have given, TRIPP, will we be able to control in any way, check what they are carrying: weapons or something else? Once you try, the site will become an open road against our interests, which will not be stopped in any way. It’s another thing if all the roads are unblocked. Whatever economic benefit there may be, it will not be 1/100th of the benefits brought by the Russian market. Yesterday, Putin told Pashinyan: think, if you want to leave your interests and get problems, you are free in your choice… 

• Europe is dependent, it even freed its automobile industry, European cars are produced in the USA and China:

• Either we will take small steps forward, or we will take large steps in the most dangerous direction for us. The emerging new world will not have the outcomes we imagine.

• The scenario of Moldova was possible at that time. Yesterday, Putin hinted that the Moldovan scenario would not work. Make a fair election, the results will be recognized by all, but if there will be an artificial mosaic, you will have problems in the emerging world.

• Folks, a multi-polar world means wars will continue, and we won’t avoid it, no matter how much we want to. If we cannot prepare for war, the anti-Armenian policy of Azerbaijan and Turkey will not change:

• Putin did not say that Russian citizens should come and run in the elections, but this does not mean that the forces that have a Russian orientation should be persecuted in Armenia.:

• Today, two powers, two poles have been created: incredibly rising China, which cannot be impoverished because it has Russia as an ally, and Iran, which is a unique translator of the Eurasian continent. We will face the dangers of the emerging world, and there will be no questioning. We don’t need to stand out at this moment by immediate decisions: we belong to this or that army. We have always distinguished ourselves as a nation of the third bell. You don’t have to forget that.

• If you can fit into the newly formed China-Russia-Iran axis, you will have achievements that you never dreamed of. Overchuk was saying that, will you be in the core of those interests, will you have more, won’t you, will you have losses? Today’s world cannot imagine otherwise. Everyone will act in the focus of their interests. 

• If after what happened to us, we have to believe that the Turkic-speaking peoples will serve the Armenian interests, then long live the Turks. You don’t have to commit suicide. If you gouge out your eyes with your own fingers, do not complain that you are blind:

• It is the delusion of a drunkard. what does it mean: you will come, fight for us, give us money too?

• The rating of the Armenian Apostolic Church is more than 80%. Does any other institution or individual claim more, have a higher reputation?

• Did that person want to breed crocodiles? But didn’t they know that crocodile meat causes infertility in men?

• Today, the world is divided into parts, and it is as a result of united action that the United States did not succeed in Iran. There will no longer be a hegemonic state in the world. There is no longer that possibility. Why does Iran say that oil should be sold in yuan? it’s not Iran saying it, China is saying it. The new world will have nothing to do with the replica of the previous world:

• Iran cannot settle for anything other than a peace document guaranteeing an undisputed peace that reflects Iran’s vital interests. Russia does the same in the case of Ukraine. This is the result of a unified approach. Iran cannot allow them to leave now and come again in 6 months.

• Let’s not forget that when Nazarbayev left Kazakhstan, he went to Turkey. Let’s also not forget that when Nikol Pashinyan was the chairman of the CSTO, and the attempted uprising in Kazakhstan was suppressed, Erdogan announced that the bony hands of Armenians and Russians came to seize and strangle the diamond of Turkic-speaking peoples, Kazakhstan. The Turkic world is an emerging phenomenon that will blast Russia from the south, isolate China from the railways and conventional roads it has built. Should we become a satellite of these hostile actions?:

• We will always be faced with a dilemma, and let that not scare anyone, if you are knowledgeable, understand trends and trends, you will not go wrong. And if there is no strategy, where are you going…

Details in the video.

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