BAKU: Official Notes "Attempts" To Damage Azeri-Turkish Ties

OFFICIAL NOTES “ATTEMPTS” TO DAMAGE AZERI-TURKISH TIES

ANS TV
Jan 30 2012
Azerbaijan

[translated from Azeri]

The Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry has reacted to the critical reports
carried by some Turkish media that Azerbaijan holds a weak position
with regard to the law passed by the French Senate. It should be
recalled that some leading Turkish media outlets wrote that Azerbaijan
is not doing enough to protest against the French Senate’s [“genocide”]
bill.

The head of the press service of the [Azerbaijani] Foreign Ministry,
Elman Abdullayev, has said that Azerbaijan expressed its protest
against the draft law when it was being discussed in the lower chamber
of the French Senate. Azerbaijan was the first state to express a
strict position with regard to the law , which prohibits the denial
of the so-called [Armenian] genocide, after it was adopted by the
French Senate, he said.

[Elman Abdullayev, spokesman for Azerbaijani Foreign Ministry]
I believe that the dissemination of these kinds of articles and
information in Turkish media are simply an attempt by some persons
to damage or cast a shadow on relations between the two fraternal
countries. Azerbaijan approaches problems concerning Turkey as its
own problems.

TCA President Lincoln McCurdy: "Pressure Must Be Exerted On Armenia

TCA PRESIDENT LINCOLN MCCURDY: “PRESSURE MUST BE EXERTED ON ARMENIA TO ESTABLISH A JOINT COMMISSION OF HISTORIANS” – INTERVIEW

APA
Feb 3 2012
Azerbaijan

“Sadly, those who show great humanitarian concern for a historical
tragedy have no compassion for the hundreds of thousands of Azerbaijani
refugees created by Armenian aggression today”

Washington. Isabel Levine – APA. APA correspondent interviews with
Lincoln McCurdy, the president of Turkish Coalition of America (TCA)

– What are your views on Armenia’s negative insistence on international
community as the French Senate recently passed the bill penalizing
the denial of the so-called genocides recognized by the law?

– This bill criminalizes speech by mandating the categorical acceptance
of a historical narrative. It goes beyond expressing support for
a one-sided narrative of the Ottoman Armenian tragedy, and would
effectively censor any viewpoint that differs from how a political
body, the French Parliament, reads and interprets this history and
defines it – although it lacks the legal or legitimate authority to
do so. It is an onslaught on academic freedom, freedom of inquiry,
freedom of thought and freedom of speech. This is antithetical to
the impartial pursuit of the truth.

There is ongoing and lively scholarly inquiry into this period of
history and how to most accurately understand and characterize the
tragic events during the closing days of the Ottoman Empire. In fact,
just recently, an issue of the Middle East Critique shed light on
the complex and controversial nature of the Ottoman Armenian tragedy.

Under the French law, some of the scholars who contributed to this
publication could be prosecuted if they were to voice the conclusions
of their research in French soil!

At the heart of this issue is freedom of thought and speech. We are
not talking about hate speech or inciting anyone to violence through
speech. We are not even talking about offensive speech. One could agree
with the entire pro-Armenian narrative of this history but still not
define it as “genocide” under the definition of international law.

TCA maintains that President Sarkozy should refrain from signing this
bill into law not only in the name of free speech and intellectual
inquiry; but also to show his support for efforts to attain closure
on this period of history, with a view to building new and strong
relations between Turkey and Armenia.

– What are the prospects of the Armenian-Turkish reconciliation
in conditions when the Armenian lobby does not disavow the global
campaign for recognition of ‘Armenian genocide’ by parliaments,
as well as by the US Congress?

– The global campaign pursued by the Armenian lobby essentially reduces
the common history of the Ottoman Turks and Armenians to a one-sided
account of suffering that only serves to aggravate prejudices and
sabotage efforts to reconcile these two peoples.

This interpretation of history overlooks the historical friendship
between Ottoman Turks and Armenians-nurtured over ten centuries of
peaceful coexistence-and continues to cause division and bitterness.

Pursuing the truth concerning this complex chapter of history is
essential to fostering ties of friendship between Turks and Armenians
and paving the way towards improving relations between the two states
in the future.

– What should the US do in that case – stand aside of the process,
or continue participating in it?

– Anything the US can do to foster an atmosphere of reconciliation
between Turkey and Armenia would be appreciated. In this respect,
continued US support for the establishment of a joint commission of
historians to study the two nations’ shared Ottoman past is of utmost
significance. It is encouraging that support for the creation of a
joint historical commission has also been voiced by the parliamentary
assemblies of the OSCE and the Council of Europe and most recently
by Swiss Foreign Minister Michelin Calmy-Rey.

It should be recalled that the proposal to establish a joint commission
of historians was first made by Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan
in 2005 to then-Armenian President Robert Kocharian. Ever since,
the proposal has been repeated on various occasions at the highest
levels. Regrettably, Armenia still has not responded favorably and,
in fact, continues to keep pertinent archives closed to scholarly
research. Pressure must be exerted on Armenia to change its stance
on these matters if this proposal is to be taken forward and turned
into an effective reality.

– How will the fact that France passed the “genocide” bill affect the
Turkish-West relations? Do you think the French Parliament’s decision
will influence Turkey’s activity as a NATO member, its place and
importance in the region?

– It will be up to the Turkish government and society to determine
the best course of action against an act that is regarded as directly
affecting the right of not just Turks, but everyone who holds a strong
opinion on a disputed historical matter. All indication so far is that
Turks are deeply offended by the French bill, and that the Turkish
government is taking this issue extremely seriously, as it should.

– How will the France’s “genocide” bill affect to the Nagorno-Karabakh
adjustment process?

– France is a co-chair of the OSCE Minsk Group, which seeks to find
a political solution to the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. The passage
of this bill in the France Senate raises serious questions as to the
ability of that country to act as an impartial broker in-and thus
constructively contribute to-the mediation of the Nagorno-Karabakh
conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan.

– Can Azerbaijan provide any support to Turkey in resisting campaign
of Armenian lobby on passing the ‘genocide’ in the parliaments of
other countries? What kind of joint steps can Turkey and Azerbaijan
take in the current situation?

– Sadly, those who show great humanitarian concern for a historical
tragedy have no compassion for the hundreds of thousands of Azerbaijani
refugees created by Armenian aggression today. We find this very
difficult to understand.

TCA has always advocated that rapprochement between Turkey and Armenia
must include a joint effort to find a solution to the Nagorno-Karabakh
conflict.

The histories as well as futures of Turkey, Armenia and Azerbaijan
are very much intertwined, and we implore all parties to take an
approach to both past and present that can create sustainable peace
and prosperity for future generations in the region.

From: Baghdasarian

BAKU: Jafarli Mamed: Another Viewpoint On The French Project Of "Arm

JAFARLI MAMED: ANOTHER VIEWPOINT ON THE FRENCH PROJECT OF “ARMENIAN GENOCIDE”

APA
Feb 3 2012
Azerbaijan

“The toughest tyranny is the one that hides under the shadow of law
and justice”

Charles-Louis de Secondat Montesquieu

On December 22 the lower house of the French Parliament passed the bill
to criminalize any public denial of genocide approved by the country’s
legislation. The French Senate voted to pass the bill, later approved
by the president, to condemn any denial of the so called “deliberate
Armenian genocide” and to punish by a year imprisonment and a fine
of 45.000 euros, said historian Jafarli Mamed in his article.

I would like to share with my readers some of my viewpoints on
the bill, which, I reckon, contradicts the historical past and the
intellectual heritage of France.

Right and Freedom.

The legislation approved by the French National Assembly to condemn
the denial of “Armenian genocide” of 1915, violates the norms and
principles of International law, related to human rights, particularly,
to the core principle like Freedom of Speech and Expression.

Furthermore, the given principle constitutes the fundamental basis
of all the bills on the issue of human rights. Moreover, for the
1st time the principle was highlighted in articles 10 and 11 of the
“Declaration of people’s and citizens’ rights” dated to 1789 and
adopted namely by France. The articles highlight that “Freedom of
Expression is one of the most valuable human rights; as every human
is free to express, write and publish”, “no one ought to be condemned
for his viewpoints”. The most upsetting and surprising fact is that
France which is considered to be the cradle of democracy due to the
given Declaration, approved the legislation criminalizing the denial of
“Armenian genocide” and thus putting Freedom of Expression at stake.

Freedom of Expression is also reflected in basic human rights bills
of current period, including the preamble of Universal Declaration on
human rights (UNO, 1948), in articles 19 and 20 of International pact
on civil and political rights dated to 1966. In article 10 of European
Convention on human rights protection, which is also considered as the
constitution of European States on human rights issues, it is noted
that every human is free to express his standpoint. This right provides
the freedom to self express, get and disseminate information and
ideas without any interference on part of the government authorities
and irrespective of state borders.

In this respect the decision adopted by the lower house of French
Parliament being juridically groundless is opposed to International
bill on human rights. Thus, the groundless allegation of “genocide”
by Armenians was reflected neither in international law nor in
historical factors. To declare judgement on a serious allegation of
crime such as “genocide” it is vital to be based on the historical
and scientific data.

To investigate the historical source of these allegations Turkish
Republic has been trying to organize joint commission by attracting
historians in order to study the archives of Ottoman Empire. But
Armenia not believing in false genocide on the one hand and “genocide
historians” acting as “diaspora ideologists” in different countries
of the world on the other hand, try to prevent the realization of
the project in every way possible.

It is mandatory to note that the first accusation in committing
killings and crimes against humankind was put forward in the process
of Nuremberg judgment accusing people who took part in massacre of
the Jewish during World War II.

It was on the basis of resolution approved by International Nuremberg
judgment that those crimes were recognized as genocide and some
countries were criminalized for denying the genocide, the same standard
applied to Holocaust denial in France dated to 1960.

However, referring to the historical events of 1915, there is no
international bill supporting the so called “Armenian genocide”.

Furthermore, Armenian party is reluctant to all the incentives to
determine the facts reflecting the given historical events.

The bill passed by the French National Assembly slows down the
investigation process in this field and violates the principles of
international law and justice. Due to the bill, people with opposite
viewpoints or different approach on the issue of “Armenian genocide”,
including the scientific research activity, even initiatives are to
become the targets of French legislation.

Moreover, the above-mentioned bill may trigger dangerous results in
other countries threatening Freedom of Speech and Expression, because
every country for the sake of private interest, using definite events
for political purposes, will recognize these acts as genocide and will
establish the subjective legislative foundation for criminalization
of their denial.

Moral Right

Sensibility of French people, their high intellectual level, and their
role in the history of mankind are undeniable. But one should agree
that the common attitude toward the people of the country is not as
easy as it may seem.

Having been formed for centuries, the relations are mainly based on
imperialistic and arrogant expression of their caprice in the period
of the development of French State. France is a country with imperial
and colonial history. The ambiguous attitude towards the past of these
countries and their people is clear and explicable. Nevertheless,
the imperial past of France, which marked the history with certain
“rights basis”, doesn’t give France the moral right to judge other
nations and declare a judgment on a serious allegation of crime such as
“genocide”. The imperial position of French State was shown towards
the neighboring states within and beyond Europe. For instance, at
present France together with Germany is trying to save European Union
from financial crisis. But during World War II France “revenged”
severely the German people. According to testimonial evidence at
USA Senate dated to July 17, 1945 when French troops occupied the
German city Stuttgart, they drove German women into the underground
construction and raped more than 2000 of them. The number of women
raped in Stuttgart within a week was greater than the number of French
women raped by German militants within four years.

Furthermore, it is common knowledge that France has colonial ambitions
in Algeria, taking into account the fact that France has the status
of permanent member of UN Security Council, established after World
War II to prevent the similar tragedies and secure peace and safety
in the world. In post war period from 1954 up to 1962 in the course
of Liberty Movement in Algeria, during “colonial intervention” French
militants massacred more than a million of Algerians.

A new imperialistic attitude of France not capable of getting rid
of the ideology “divide and conquer” emerged in the 90s of the last
century in Ruanda. “Peace intervention” of French Army into the country
to prevent mass massacre caused the deaths of millions of people. Due
to testimonial evidence French “peacemakers” took an active part in
inciting hostility between the parties of the conflict and supplying
them with weapons.

By citing these facts we have no intention of accusing today’s France
for crimes committed by previous generations. France should review
its history before approving the similar bill and recognizing the so
called “genocide” without having any historical or legal background.

In this respect I would like to cite a passage from the article adopted
by the National Assembly of France on the last bill published in the
newspaper of Armenian lobby in Turkey AGOS issued on December 23,
2011. “The present bill targeting at preserving the historical truth
and not allowing the repetition of the genocide in the future is
aimed at the providing of justice and human rights. However, in this
reduction one of the democratic principles which sounds as “all that
is not solved is to be banned” damages the Freedom of Expression. The
real democratic culture doesn’t blame any opinion. On the other hand
it develops only in the way of exchange of opinions.

If France is really going to put an end to the denials of the events
taking place in 1915, it ought to distinguish discrimination and
critics on part of Armenian people and their claims for Freedom of
Expression. And this cannot be reached by people’s punishment. If
France is eager to make its contribution into the fair dissemination
of information primarily it should unveil the attitude of France to
Ottoman territories at the beginning of XX century.

Christianity and Great French Revolution

German philosopher Hegel assumed Great French Revolution as the
incarnation of the idea of free honest society shown in Christianity,
great thinker’s idea could be considered from two perspectives –
Christian religion and Great French Revolution.

According to Hegel” the idea of freedom “reached its perfect state
exactly in Christianity, as this religion first became phenomenon in
providing universal equality in the presence of God on the bases of
spiritual choice and beliefs. Mentioning Christianity in this article
deliberately makes France, the society in which religious values are
too strong, the object of our consideration.

I assume that French parliamentarians prohibiting people to express
their opinion freely do not have the concept of religious requirements
of the religion they possess. In fact, the small benefits they
expected to derive deprived their consideration with the perspective
of sacramental and universal values.

The level of personality is the result of his/her activities. I
think the readers will not blame me in enmity in case I state that 38
members of the French National Assembly could not pass “the probation
of personality” in the presence of their electorate, but also religion
they possess.

The next step is about Hegel’s evaluation of Great French Revolution.

This revolution laid the foundation of advancement of thinking based
on liberal values not only in France, but also all over the world.

Other governments and nations passed the period of bourgeois revolution
before French revolution could not globalize this phenomenon.

Despite of Hegel’s consideration p of French revolution as the
development of ideas of freedom and equality promoted by Christianity,
defining reasons of fulfillment of historical events especially in
France, not in any Christian society is an interesting theme for
historical analysis.

On the eve of revolution the intellectual image of French society
formed views by Rousseau, Walter, Montesquieu propagating the ideas of
free society with liberal values. Devoting their abilities and lives
to the struggling for the primacy of values such as quality, free
expression, these great personalities were the leaders of ideas from
which democracy evolved and France is considered to be the symbol of .

Nevertheless, the appropriate decisions made by the parliament of
this country directed exactly against those values. If Montesquieu
were alive, even in XVIII century he stated,” the toughest tyranny
is the one which hides under the shadow of law and justice, it is
not difficult to imagine what he thought of the present government
and the French Senate issued its subjective interests in the shape
of legislation for ” citizens of democratic government”.

Personality?!

On the stage of History the status of each nation is defined by
intellectual and moral levels of personalities emerged from that
nation.

Germans, Turks, English, Russians, and other nations who wrote
their names in the world civilization forever, with their status in
History must appreciate not just only tangible and transient values,
but also intellectual talents of their personalities. Not achieved
progress in scientific – technical innovations, but first and foremost
talents reached the eminence – such personalities as Mustafa Kemal
Ataturk , Conrad Adenauer, Isaac Newton, Sultan Mehmet Fateh, Winston
Churchill, Johann Sebastian Bach, Leo Tolstoy will live in minds of
people forever.

No doubts in different periods of the history of French people who
gifted the world science, culture with the legacy of socio – political
consciousness of great people, took their honorary place in the world.

Expectations from French people who spread the liberal bourgeois values
in Europe, put forward the idea of political and organizational unity
for living in peace and prosperous atmosphere, played the role of
pioneer in the realization of these ideas.

This factor relates to governmental and political figures of France.

The natives of this nation are famous for their perennial activities
directed to the solving of global and regional problems not only in
France, but also in senior positions of international organizations.

For this reason, various representatives of the state authorities
of France were considered as the models of political intelligence
and farsightedness, political culture and etiquette. Each and every
taken step and uttered word by them were treated not just an act of
an individual, but primarily through the prism of French people they
represented. To continue and develop splendid traditions of the past
generation, to transmit them to the next generation a political leader
is demanded to be more responsible, sensible and liberal.

Not going into the details, I would like to touch upon the status
of personality of Nicolas Sarkozy through the prism of the French
Revolution.

There are political leaders whose personalities are not easy to
assess, the reason is that even if the decisions they make are
negative in respect of other countries and nations and with regards
to national interests of their countries are fully understandable and
reasonable. That is to say such political leaders tend to change the
balance between national and international audiences in the favor of
the firsts. The case is explained as “each and every leader is the
representative of his/her nation and reports to their nation”.

The tragedy of a political leader starts then when he does not make any
choice between national and international sides, but does make choice
between particular layers and groups represented in the society. The
tragedy of a political leader starts then when made decisions serve not
to consolidate, but to separate the society they represent. Finally,
the tragedy of a political leader starts then when he/she loses
his/her moral rights to represent their society.

We are not able to state what French people think of the matter,
what decision they will make in the presidential election, but the
reality is that Sarkozy just acts like the head of government, not the
president of French people. When in 2001 French Senate adopted the
act of recognition of “the Armenian genocide ” the former president
Jacques Chirac showed great farseeing and courage to state that the
legislative initiative is not the attitude of France, only expresses
the views of voters. Not to call into confrontation between national-
ethnic groups of society and not to deteriorate relations with Turkey
that is the south- northern stand of NATO, Jacques Chirac differed in
the ability to feel sensitively the harshness of political rhetoric
without reference to his subjective opinion.

Leaders such as Charles de Gaulle, Francois Mitterand, Jacques
Chirac, who left a mark in History have also been criticized and
judged for made decision, that is natural. However, political culture,
intelligence and ability of strategic thinking of those figures never
caused any doubt.

To summarize the reflection on the theme “personality “, I hope Nicolas
Sarkozy is the exception for Hans Morgenthau who stated ” each and
every nation deserves own political leader “. Let us not forget that
everything is different in real life, even the wise sayings.

In conclusion I would like to cite from the book by French attorney –
historian Georges de Maleva “Armenian tragedy 1915” who was against
the participation of members of Senate in defining historical events.

If the competence of European Parliament includes the punishment of
those who are guilty in annihilation and beating in History, so why
European Parliament will not reject England, Madame Thatcher to enter
“the common market”, for outrage committed by France, Louis XIV?

In fact, the evidence of all has been preserved since then. The scope
of activities of such” shufflers of History”can be unlimited. For
instance; France might be punished for extortion made by Napoleon
in Spain, Spain for vandalism done by Philipp II in the Netherlands,
Denmark for excesses in Sweden etc.

Delegation Comprising French Senators Complaining To Constitutional

DELEGATION COMPRISING FRENCH SENATORS COMPLAINING TO CONSTITUTIONAL COURT OF FRENCH SENATE’S LAW TO VISIT AZERBAIJAN

APA
Feb 3 2012
Azerbaijan

Baku-APA. Azerbaijani official authorities, parliament and society
condemned the French parliament’s adoption of draft law criminalizing
denial of made-up “Armenian genocide”.

The State Committee on Work with Religious Organizations told APA
that the Azerbaijanis living in various parts of the world protested
this decision of the parliament. More than 60 Azerbaijani Diaspora
organizations condemned the French parliament’s abovementioned
decision, underlined that this law infringed the freedom of speech
and expression, as well as didn’t serve to establishment of peace,
tranquility and mutual confidence in the region.

Official Ankara positively assessed Azerbaijan’s support to Turkey
on this issue. Turkey’s Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan noted
that Azerbaijan rendered necessary support to Turkey on this issue
and underlined that “Azerbaijan is our brother and fraternal shoulder
is always near us”. Turkey said that Azerbaijan played a significant
role in French senators’ appeal to the French Constitutional Council
in abolition of the abovementioned draft law.

The Republic of Azerbaijan completely continues its efforts for the
abolition of this law. A group of the senators who appealed to the
French Constitutional Court will arrive in Azerbaijan on February
5 by the invitation of the State Committee on Work with religious
Organizations. The delegation includes senators Nathalie Goulet,
Sylvie Goy-Chavent, Jean-Marie Bockel, Herve Maurey, Andre Reichard,
Jeanny Lorgeoux. They senators will hold meetings in the Parliament
as well as several ministries. The French Seantors will also meet
with the refugees and IDPs suffered as a result of Nagorno Karabakh
conflict, will familiarize with their living conditions. The visit
will end on February 10.

BAKU: French President And FM Disagree Over "Armenian Genocide"

FRENCH PRESIDENT AND FM DISAGREE OVER “ARMENIAN GENOCIDE”

Trend
Feb 3 2012
Azerbaijan

French President Nicolas Sarkozy and Foreign Minister Alain Juppe
disagree over the adoption of a law criminalizing the denial of
the so-called “Armenian genocide”, CNN Turk TV channel reports with
reference to the French media outlets.

According to the French media outlets, Alain Juppe, who is against
the adoption of this law, has been criticized by Sarkozy. After the
president’s meeting with the ministers, Juppe decided not to uphold
his position and not to express his opinions on this matter aloud,
CNN Turk reported.

On Jan.31, French Senators collected required number of signatures
to submit to the Constitutional Council to demand a repeal of the
law criminalizing the denial of the so-called “Armenian genocide”.

Previously on Jan 23, after an eight-hour debate, the French senate
adopted the bill. Some 127 senators voted in favour, while 86 voted
against.

The bill demands a year’s imprisonment and a fine of 45,000 euro for
denying the so-called “genocide.”

Armenia and the Armenian lobby claim that the predecessor of the Turkey
– Ottoman Empire had committed the 1915 genocide against the Armenians
living in Anadolu, and achieved recognition of the “Armenian Genocide”
by the parliaments of several countries.

BAKU: French Constitutional Council To Make Decision On "Armenian Ge

FRENCH CONSTITUTIONAL COUNCIL TO MAKE DECISION ON “ARMENIAN GENOCIDE” LAW BEFORE MARCH 1

Trend
Feb 3 2012
Azerbaijan

The French Constitutional Council will make a decision on repeal of
the law criminalizing the denial of the so-called “Armenian genocide”
before March 1, Anadolu news agency reported on Friday.

Votes of seven members of the Council are required for making any
decision. According to the news agency it is expected that many
members of the Constitutional Council will vote for repeal of the law.

On Jan.31, French Senators collected required number of signatures
to submit to the Constitutional Council to demand a repeal of the
law criminalizing the denial of the so-called “Armenian genocide”.

Previously on Jan 23, after an eight-hour debate, the French senate
adopted the bill. Some 127 senators voted in favour, while 86 voted
against.

The bill demands a year’s imprisonment and a fine of 45,000 euro for
denying the so-called “genocide.”

Armenia and the Armenian lobby claim that the predecessor of the Turkey
– Ottoman Empire had committed the 1915 genocide against the Armenians
living in Anadolu, and achieved recognition of the “Armenian Genocide”
by the parliaments of several countries.

BAKU: Russian, EU Diplomats Mull Karabakh Conflict

RUSSIAN, EU DIPLOMATS MULL KARABAKH CONFLICT

AzerTac
Feb 2 2012
Azerbaijan

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory Karasin met with the Deputy
Secretary General for the European External Action Service, Helga
Schmid. They discussed topical issues in the relations of Russia and
the EU with Ukraine and the countries of the South Caucasus

Baku, February 2 (AzerTAc). Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Grigory
Karasin met with the Deputy Secretary General for the European External
Action Service, Helga Schmid.

They discussed topical issues in the relations of Russia and the EU
with Ukraine and the countries of the South Caucasus.

They also discussed the Armenia-Azerbaijan, Nagorno-Karabakh conflict
and the Transdniestria conflict.

Genocides : Debat Oriente ?

GENOCIDES : DéBAT ORIENTé ?

Sud Ouest

3 fév 2012
France

Envoi d’Harris Donelian

Dans le raz de marée qui a suivi l’adoption de la pénalisation des
génocides, nous avons étés choqués par la présentation plutôt
“orienté” qu’en a fait notre journal.

Le déséquilibre en faveur des oppositions aux valeurs républicaines
d’Egalité trés fortement représentés et l’absence de traitement
ou d’explication de fond.

Nous avons pus lire ainsi:

un éditorialste de Sud Ouest,un professeur d’histoire enseignant
a Bordeaux et en Turquie, le président de France Turquie, un chef
d’entreprise commercialisant en Turquie, prés d’une demi page
d’interview de bordelais d’origine Turque,des écho de l’avis de mrs
Badinter,Madrelle etc. face a un entre-filet d’un avis de soutien.

Que tous ces détracteurs se fourvoient ou veulent détourner le débat
est une chose, mais que Sud Ouest leur serve de caisse de résonnance
au mépris de la parité et de la réalité de l’information est
choquant.

Ainsi vous auriez put publier les avis des véritables spécialistes
dela question:

Altug Taner Akcam sociologue, historien et auteur turc professeur au
Centre pour l’étude de l’Holocauste et des génocides de l’Université
du Minnesota.

Il a publié une variété de livres et d’articles en anglais,
allemand et turc au sujet des relations turco-arméniennes.

L’ouvrage qui l’a le plus fait connaître, Le génocide arménien et
la question de la responsabilité turque, a été salué par Orhan
Pamuk, prix Nobel de littérature.

Akcam est l’un des premiers universitaires turcs a reconnaître et
a discuter ouvertement du génocide arménien de 1915.

S’appuyant en effet sur les minutes des débats parlementaires,
la correspondance privée des organisateurs du génocide arménien
et sur les procès-verbaux des soixante-trois tribunaux militaires
jugeant en 1919 les dirigeants du CUP, (Comité Union et Progrès,
le parti au pouvoir), Taner Akcam démontre de facon irréfutable
la planification du meurtre collectif par l’Ã~Itat turc, son
administration et son armée.

Yves Ternon spécialiste internationalement reconnu pour ses ouvrages
concernant les génocides et plus particulièrement le génocide
Arménien.

le président de France Arménie,Bernard Henri Lévi, Michel Onfray,
Erol Ozkoray… ou tout au moins informer du communiqué du Conseil
de Coordination des Organisations Arméniennes de France.

mais surtout informer que cette loi qui est une application d’une
directive Européenne,contre la Discrimination, le Racisme et le
Négationisme appliquant l’Egalité Républicaine dans le traitement
des Génocides reconnus par la France.

Cette loi permet enfin de ne plus avoir de justice a deux vitesses…

Réponse de Christophe Lucet, éditorialiste, responsable de la
rubriqe internationale

Vous avez écrit au journal pour regretter ce que vous pensez être
une couverture un peu partiale de cette affaire. Si je comprends bien,
nous serions dans “Sud Ouest” trop peu conscients de l’importance de
cette loi pour la reconnaissance des souffrances du peuple d’Arménie.

Permettez-moi de modérer votre critique. Il est vrai que “Sud Ouest”,
comme une bonne partie de la presse francaise, a souligné l’aspect
“électoraliste” de la loi, au risque de passer a côté du fond. Mon
dernier éditorial, dont je crois que vous reconnaissez la justesse,
vous montre cependant que le journal que je représente ne suggère en
aucun cas de négliger l’impérative nécessité d’apurer le passé. Il
se trouve simplement que l’approche des élections a “pollué” la
discussion. J’ajoute que faire ce débat au moment où la France et
la Turquie tentaient de se rapprocher pour augmenter les chances de
peser sur la situation en Syrie était particulièrement maladroit:
vous me direz qu’il n’y a jamais de “bon moment” dans ce cas-la et
je pourrais vous donner raison, mais tout de même…: Alain Juppé,
vous le savez, était assez consterné.

Je pense donc que le débat public dont “Sud Ouest” s’est fait l’écho
était un peu faussé, et c’est ce qui explique votre légitime
frustration.

From: A. Papazian

http://mediateur.blogs.sudouest.fr/archive/2012/01/31/genocides-debat-oriente.html

Histoire Et Competence Legislative

HISTOIRE ET COMPETENCE LEGISLATIVE

Le Monde

3 fev 2012
France

Le Conseil constitutionnel va devoir se prononcer, avant la fin
fevrier, sur la constitutionnalite de la loi reprimant la negation des
genocides. Il ne s’agit evidemment pas pour lui de prendre position
sur la question de la reconnaissance ou non du genocide armenien,
mais de se prononcer sur un autre problème d’une grande importance,
a savoir : quelles sont les limites a la competence du legislateur?

En tant que representants du peuple, les elus considèrent volontiers
qu’ils expriment la volonte nationale et que, de ce fait, leur
competence ne saurait etre limitee. Bien sûr ce n’est pas le cas
puisque celle-ci est definie et limitee par la Constitution. Comme
on le sait, la loi n’exprime la volonte generale que dans le respect
de la Constitution (decision du 23 août 1985). Dans cette affaire
concernant la contestation des genocides, le juge constitutionnel
va devoir, une nouvelle fois, preciser sa jurisprudence relative aux
limites du domaine de la loi.

Lors de l’elaboration de la Constitution de 1958, le general de Gaulle
et Michel Debre, ont voulu limiter la competence du legislateur
aux seules questions essentielles enoncees, en particulier, par
l’article 34 de la Constitution. Et l’on peut rappeler que le Conseil
constitutionnel a ete cree precisement pour interdire au Parlement
d’empieter sur le domaine reglementaire relevant de l’executif. Au
debut de la Vème Republique, de Gaulle declarait, en conseil des
ministres, qu’il etait contraire a la Constitution de laisser le
Parlement se meler de ce qui relève du domaine reglementaire. Et il
ajoutait qu’il fallait cesser de faire des lois sur tout et sur rien
(A. Peyrefitte : C’etait de Gaulle , 1, Fayard, 1994, p. 461).

Ainsi le Conseil constitutionnel, dans les annees 1960, n’a pas hesite
a sanctionner le legislateur lorsqu’il empietait sur le domaine
reglementaire. Certes, a partir de 1982, il a assoupli sa position
sur ce point, mais depuis une dizaine d’annees il a de nouveau adopte
une position plus exigeante en sanctionnant les lois ” bavardes ” et
en estimant que la loi n’avait pas vocation a enoncer des evidences
et qu’elle devait etre suffisamment claire, accessible et intelligible.

Le juge constitutionnel va devoir desormais se prononcer sur le
point de savoir si le legislateur est competent pour statuer sur des
questions qui debordent le cadre de sa competence puisqu’elle relève
de celle des chercheurs, en l’occurrence des historiens. Mais le
meme problème pourrait se poser dans d’autres domaines (non seulement
judiciaire mais aussi scientifique, medical, artistique…).

Robert Badinter a justement souligne, dans Le Monde du 15 janvier,
que le Parlement n’etait pas un tribunal et que la loi votee par
le Parlement etait excessive et inconstitutionnelle. Tout le monde
reconnaît que les lois sont trop nombreuses et souvent inutiles. Le
Conseil constitutionnel a l’occasion de rappeler au Parlement son
obligation de ne legiferer que sur les questions essentielles.

Loïc Philip, Puyricard (Bouches-du-Rhône)

http://mediateur.blog.lemonde.fr/2012/02/03/histoire-et-competence-legislative/

Tchakarian Officier De La Legion D’Honneur

TCHAKARIAN OFFICIER DE LA LEGION D’HONNEUR

Le Figaro
3 fev 2012
France

S’abonner au Figaro.fr Le dernier survivant du groupe Manouchian,
Arsène Tchakarian, ne en 1916, a ete promu a titre exceptionnel
officier de la Legion d’honneur par un decret du president de la
Republique publie aujourd’hui au Journal officiel.

Arsène Tchakarian, president d’honneur de l’Association nationale
des volontaires, anciens combattants et resistants armeniens, avait
ete nomme chevalier de la Legion d’honneur en juin 2005.

Ne en Turquie a l’epoque du genocide armenien, il a connu le Front
populaire et combattu dans la Resistance dans les rangs du groupe
Manouchian, demantele en fevrier 1944. 22 de ses camarades avaient
ete arretes, juges et executes au Mont-Valerien mais Arsène Tchakarian
avait echappe a l’arrestation.

From: Baghdasarian