Movement chair arrested over cooperation with Armenian secret service
Assa-Irada, Azerbaijan
Aug 5 2005
Baku, August 4, AssA-Irada – Head of a youth movement has been arrested
on charges of attempting to forcefully seize power with the aid of
the Armenian secret service. The apprehension follows a testimony of
a member of the organization, who appealed to the Prosecutor’s Office
on Wednesday.
According to the Prosecutor’s Office, representative of the Yeni Fikir
(New Thought) movement Osman Alimuradov testified that on July 28-29,
he traveled to Tbilisi together with the movement chairman Ruslan
Bashirli, on an instruction of the major opposition Popular Front
Party (PFPA) chairman Ali Karimli. While in the Georgian capital, they
met with Merabi Jibutia, who presented himself as a representative
of Georgian ‘democratic forces’, as well as two other individuals,
Georgi Ispirian and a man named Vardan. “However, these individuals
actually represent Armenian secret service”, the Prosecutor’s Office
report said. These persons drew the movement representatives to
secret cooperation.
Alimuradov submitted a video tape and a receipt proving that Bashirli
received money from these individuals.
The investigation showed that in late June-early July, Georgian
citizen Jibutia visited Baku and met with the Yeni Fikir chairman
Bashirli. Bashirli then introduced him to the PFPA chairman Karimli,
which was followed by an hour-long face-to-face conversation.
Bashirli and Alimuradov met with Georgi Ispirian and Jibutia at a
private apartment in Tbilisi on July 29. Bashirli then said that the
‘forces’ he represents act on an instruction of the US National
Democratic Institute. He said that they have received ‘specific
instructions’ from NDI representatives to stage a ‘revolution’
in Azerbaijan. He said that NDI representatives arranged training
sessions for PFPA deputy chair Fuad Mustafayev and the Yeni Fikir
movement coordinator Nuriyev, in Poland.
Ispirian, in turn, said that the ‘democratic forces’ headed by
PFPA chair Karimli and Bashirli should try to stage a revolution
in Azerbaijan. Ispirian also promised that Armenian and Georgian
‘democratic forces’ would provide all kinds of assistance, including
sufficient funds. He said that if necessary, fear and confusion would
be provoked among the population and ceasefire may be breached for
a short period of time to ‘show the incompetence of the authorities’.
Ispirian also said during the meeting that he is capable of staging
shooting at one of the opposition rallies in Azerbaijan in order to
breach stability in the country.
After an agreement was reached to jointly struggle against Azerbaijani
authorities, Ispirian gave $2,000 to Bashirli and received a receipt
for the money. Besides, he promised Bashirli to give him another
$20,000 in a few days. The plotters then agreed that Bashirli will
receive $2,000 every month.
However, Alimuradov turned down the proposal to cooperate. He said
that the afore-mentioned man named Vardan told him that they represent
Armenian secret service and have video-taped the meeting with a hidden
camera. Vardan threatened Alimuradov that if collaboration is declined,
the mentioned video-tapes would be aired on TV channels. He also gave
a copy of the tape to Alimuradov.
The Azerbaijani law enforcement have arrested Bashirli and started a
criminal case against him on charges of ‘forceful capture of power’
and ‘forceful overthrow of the constitutional system’.*

Documents on Armenian Massacre of Muslims in French Archives
By Erdal Sen
Zaman, Turkey
Aug 5 2005
France, a vocal opponent of Turkey’s European Union membership, is
also a fierce defendant of the alleged Armenian genocide. Lying at
the center of the Armenian Diaspora, France frequently brings up the
genocide allegations in international or domestic platforms.
France and other countries that have accepted the genocide thesis
repeatedly block Turkey’s call for a debate to be conducted
by historians. Moreover Ottoman archives are deemed “biased”. In
response to this attitude, the Turkish Historical Association (TTV)
opened the Ottoman Archives to the public and has conducted research
about the topic in the French, British, Russian and American archives.
Within the framework of the project that concluded recently, the
documents obtained from French archives are to be compiled. These
documents include diplomatic correspondence that refers to Armenian
massacres of the Muslim population within Ottoman territory. Secret
official documents refer to Armenian rioting activity and to plans
to cause panic among the Muslim population through assassinations
which date from well before the deportation decision. Correspondence
conducted with French Foreign Ministry contains information that
Armenians were plotting to kill Enver and Talat Pashas and that their
assassinations would be realized in contact with the Entente Powers.
Concerning the documents found in the French archives, TTV Chairman
Professor Dr. Yusuf Halacoglu comments, “the reason why our call for
a debate conducted by a commission of historians was refused now has
come to light.”
According to the TTV’s examination, 479 documents were brought
to Turkey from France after they were photocopied. Most of the
diplomatic documents bear a “confidential” sign on them. TTV will
publish the documents in three volumes, which give the opportunity to
evaluate the problems from the points of view of the Ottomans and the
Armenians during World War I. The documents shed light on the pre-
and post-deportation period whose original and Turkish versions
will be published separately. The exchange of arms and ammunition
between the French and the revolting Armenians are available in
French archive documents. One of the documents, which best summarizes
the actions of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire is the 14 May 1915
dated correspondence telling about the “killing of 6,000 citizens by
Armenians in Van region”. This document was sent to the French Foreign
Ministry by Russia’s Paris Embassy. Another telegram, dated 8 May,
1915, filed by French Foreign Ministry proves that triple-entente
“benefited from” Armenians. The document reveals that “Armenians who
revolted in Van killed many Muslims and civil servants”.
Speaking to Zaman about their studies regarding the international
achieve studies, Halacoglu claims that most of the countries that
prosecute Turkey about the Armenian genocide now, benefited from the
Armenians during the World War I. Halacoglu said they proved this with
the documents they obtained as he added: “According to the Ottoman
archives, we had formerly announced the massacre of Muslim public by
Armenians. The documents that we have brought from other countries
prove these massacres. Armenians’ riots, massacres and plans can be
seen in French documents as well, which played a role in the Ottoman’s
taking a decision for Armenian deportation.”
Armenian revolt
Following is a statement sent by Russian Embassy in Paris to French
Foreign Ministry on 14 May 1915:
“According to a telegraph by Sazanov to Iswoybky, a letter pinned on
a harbinger’s cloth sent by Van’s Armenian colony to inform Tbilisi
Armenians says: ‘About 6,000 were killed in the Eastern Anatolian
province Van, The Van and Catak defense still continued, the cannon
balls did not cause much damage in Van but urgent help is needed.’
This letter is dated 28 April 1915. Russia’s Embassies in Paris and
London take conveying the above information to the both cabinets as
a mission.”
Another Seon-signed telegraph from Salonica to French Foreign Ministry
on 8 May 1915 says:
“Armenians have revolted in Van. They killed Muslims and civil servants
there. They blew up municipal building and seized the city for 16
days. Troops sent from Erzurum following the events took back the
city and killed Armenians. 2,500 prominent Armenians were arrested in
Istanbul upon these events. Several bombs and documents were found at
their homes. It should be admitted that intention of Armenian rebel
societies are to kill Enver and Talat Pashas in connection with the
Triple Entente and to create panic among the Muslims by plotting
assassinations with dynamite.”

ISRAEL ADHERES TO SETTLEMENT OF ARMENIA-AZERBAIJAN, NAGORNO-KARABAKH
CONFLICT ON THE PRINCIPLE OF TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY
[August 05, 2005, 12:49:30]
AzerTag, Azerbaijan
Aug 5 2005
Israel adheres to peaceful settlement of the Armenia-Azerbaijan,
Nagorno-Karabakh conflict on the principle of territorial integrity,
said the Israeli Ambassador to Azerbaijan Eytan Nae during the press
conference at the International Press Center in connection with
completing his diplomatic mission to Baku.
Estimating his diplomatic tenure in Azerbaijan during the more
historical and important times for the country very interesting,
Eytan Nae expressed satisfaction with increased level of relationships
between Azerbaijan and Israel. In his opinion, Azerbaijan is rapidly
develops for the last time and it’s a good impetus to bilateral
multi-facetted relations. At the present Israeli businessmen have
invested in Azerbaijan’s economy. The both countries have successful
collaboration within the international organizations.
As regards his personal impression about Azerbaijan, the Ambassador
said it’s positive and there are friends he’s left in the country.
Eytan Nae has also expressed gratitude to the country’s leadership and
the Azerbaijan people for their support during his diplomatic mission.

Azerbaijan says Armenia funding opposition
ISN, Switzerland
Aug 5 2005
ISN SECURITY WATCH (Friday, 5 August: 16.40 GMT) – Police in Baku late
on Thursday arrested the leader of an Azerbaijani political youth
group for allegedly taking money from Armenian security agents and
plotting anti-government acts. Prosecutors identified the suspect as
Ruslan Bashirli, of the opposition youth party Yeni Fikir. They said
he was arrested after another group member, Osman Alimuradov, notified
prosecutors that Bashirli had held a secret meeting with the Armenian
agents in Georgia in July. The National Front of Azerbaijan opposition
party called the arrest “an act of repression against the youth union”.

Turkish Press
Aug 5 2005
Press Review
TURKIYE
GUL: “WE’RE WORKING TO REVEAL THE REALITY ABOUT THE SO-CALLED ARMENIAN
GENOCIDE”
Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul said yesterday that the government was
working to reveal the reality about the so-called Armenian genocide.
Replying to an official question of a deputy, Gul said that a number
of documents reflecting the truth about the issue had been prepared
and sent to scholars, libraries, parliaments and journalists abroad.
/Turkiye/

Remains in Saint Stephanus Church may be bones of John the Baptist: archbishop
MehrNews.com, Iran
Aug 5 2005
TEHRAN, Aug. 5 (MNA) — The Armenian Orthodox primate of the diocese
of Tehran, Archbishop Sebuh Sarkisian, said on Thursday that some of
the remains recently discovered in Iran’s St. Stephanus Church may
be the bones of John the Baptist.
In late July, Shahriar Adl, the director of the team documenting three
Iranian churches for registration on UNESCO’s World Heritage List,
said that they had discovered the bones of one of the successors of
the Apostles of Jesus at the St. Stephanus Church, which is located
near Marand in East Azarbaijan.
“About the box, which contains the remains of the apostles’ bodies
and was found under the altar of the St. Stephanus Church, it is
said that the box contains the body of John the Baptist. According
to Armenian historian Arakel Davrizhetsi (17th century), the box,
which was located under the main altar of the Church of the Holy
Trinity in old Jolfa and contained the sacred remains and a scroll,
was given to Shamun, the archbishop of St. Stephanus Church, after
the Church of the Holy Trinity was destroyed,” Sarkisian explained.
“The remains may very likely have historic value. According to the
tradition of the church, we know that after St. Gregory the Illuminator
was consecrated as archbishop of Caesarea in Cappadocia, in a friendly
gesture, he gave some remains of John the Baptist to Quintius, the
archbishop of the region, during his return trip to Armenia. The
remains were transferred to the John the Baptist Cathedral in the
city of Mush in Armenia.
“Now, the remains were somehow transferred to another place, as a
consequence of the wars and chaotic conditions prevailing in the land
over past centuries, in which believers and church fathers changed the
location of the box in order to safeguard it. A French traveler (Jean
Baptiste Tavernier, 1605-1689), who saw a box at the St. Stephanus
Church when he visited the place in the 17th century, had said that
the box contained the body of one of the Apostles,” Sarkisian said.
Some historical sources, such as some photos kept at Tehran’s Golestan
Palace, and the photos taken by Ali Khan Vali, the governor of northern
Azarbaijan during the reign of the Qajar king Nasser ad-Din Shah and
kept in the Adl family archives, indicate that the bones of Saint
Stephanus (Saint Stephen), Saint Matthew, and the Prophet Daniel,
are being kept in the St. Stephanus Church.
The bones have been examined by a team of anthropologists of the
Cultural Heritage and Tourism Organization (CHTO).
Unfortunately, the bones have been damaged because of the bad
condition of the place. Thus, the team could only determine that
they are the bones of a single body but the individual bones can not
be distinguished.
The experts have said that the complete skeleton belongs to a man
with a strong physique who was about 50 years old when he died.
The bones have been transferred to the Prelacy of Azarbaijan in
Tabriz because restoration work is currently underway in the church,
but they will be returned after the renovation is complete.
Hayk Ajimian, an Armenian scholar and historian, recorded that the
church was originally built in the ninth century CE, but repeated
earthquakes in Azarbaijan severely damaged the original structure.
The church was renovated during the reign of the Safavid king Shah
Abbas (1588-1629).
The general structure of the St. Stephanus Church mostly resembles
Armenian and Georgian architecture and the inside of the building is
adorned with beautiful paintings by Honatanian, a renowned Armenian
artist.
The CHTO plans to submit an application to UNESCO to register the St.
Stephanus Church as well as the St. Thaddeus and Zorzor churches in
West Azarbajian on the World Heritage List.

National Security Watch: FBI whistle-blower petitions high court
U.S. News & World Report
Aug 5 2005
Linda Spillers/Getty Images
Former FBI linguist Sibel Edmonds poses for a portrait at her home in
Alexandria, Virginia.
Posted 8/5/05
By Danielle Knight
Lawyers for Sibel Edmonds, the former translator for the FBI, have
petitioned the Supreme Court to hear her case. Edmonds claims that
she was fired in retaliation for reporting security breaches and
possible espionage within the bureau. The FBI hired Edmonds, who is
fluent in Turkish, Farsi, and Azerbaijani, shortly after the 9/11
attacks. She was fired in 2002 and filed a lawsuit later that year
arguing that her firing was in retaliation for blowing the whistle
on other FBI officials.
In its defense, the Justice Department is using the “states secrets
privilege,” an argument that information related to Edmonds’s case
is highly classified and cannot be disclosed without endangering the
nation’s security. The states secrets privilege is an executive power
that is not a law, but based on a series of legal precedents. In July
2004, a federal district court ruled in favor of the government’s
use of this privilege in Edmonds’s case. In May 2005 the D.C. appeals
court upheld the district court’s opinion.
If the Supreme Court agrees to hear the case, the court’s decision
could influence the fate of several other lawsuits involving national
security and intelligence in which the administration has used the
states secrets argument. The government has relied on this argument
in several high-profile federal cases, including that of Maher Arar,
the Canadian citizen who claims the U.S. government interdicted him
at JFK Airport in New York in 2002 and sent him to be interrogated
in Syria, where he alleges he was tortured.
“We are urging the Supreme Court, which has not directly addressed
this issue in 50 years, to rein in the government’s misuse of this
privilege,” says Ann Beeson, associate legal director at the American
Civil Liberties Union, who is one of the lawyers representing
Edmonds. The states secrets privilege, she says, “should be used
as a shield for sensitive evidence, not a sword the government can
use at will to cut off argument in a case before the evidence can
be presented.”
Edmonds told U.S. News that she and other whistle-blowers from the FBI,
CIA, National Security Agency, and Department of Homeland Security are
so furious with the lack of congressional oversight on intelligence
and national security that they plan to launch an advertising campaign
targeting government officials who have allegedly endangered national
security. The newspaper ads, which could be launched as early as two
months from now, would name officials, their titles, their salaries,
where they work, and their alleged or documented wrongdoing, says
Edmonds. The campaign would be funded by private donations and would
be coordinated by the recently formed advocacy group she heads,
the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition.
Edmonds is the subject of a 10-page story in September’s Vanity
Fair released this week. The article reveals some new details of the
wiretaps Edmonds translated that involved conversations by members of
Turkish associations and the Turkish Consulate in Chicago as part of
an FBI counterintelligence investigation. According to the wiretaps,
the article claims that members of these Turkish groups had arranged
for tens of thousands of dollars to be paid to the campaign funds of
House Speaker Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, in small checks
under $200, so they wouldn’t have to be itemized in public campaign
filings. Hastert’s voice was never heard in the recordings, however,
and his office denies knowing anything about this.
The article says that the wiretap recordings contained repeated
reference to Hastert’s flip-flop in 2000 on a congressional proposal
to designate the killings of Armenians in Turkey between 1915 and 1923
a genocide. At first he supported the idea, but later he withdrew
the proposal. Hastert explained that he changed his mind because
President Bill Clinton was concerned about the resolution harming
U.S. interests abroad. But the Chicago wiretaps, according to Vanity
Fair, revealed that “a senior official at the Turkish Consulate is
said to have claimed in one recording that the price for Hastert to
withdraw the resolution would have been at least $500,000.”
The article cautions, however, that “the reported content of the
Chicago wiretaps may well have been sheer bravado, and there is no
evidence that any payment was ever made to Hastert or his campaign.”
From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress

Democratic Poles
By KAMIL TCHOREK
EURASIA
The Wall Street Journal
August 5, 2005
MINSK — While western Europe focuses on terrorism in London, the
terror state of Belarus, dominated by dictator Alexander Lukashenko,
is treated in the tradition of Neville Chamberlain’s “faraway country
of which we know little.”
This is a mistake. Aside from the close though little-known historical
and cultural ties that the West has with Belarus — Tadeusz Kosciuszko,
a leading figure in the American Revolution and an early advocate
of democracy and emancipation, was born and bred in these parts —
the Moscow-backed regime in Minsk poses a security risk to Europe.
Two years ago Saddam Hussein’s closest aide, Abid Hamid Mahmud
Tikriti, was captured carrying Belarus passports for himself and
Saddam’s notorious sons. After a recent state visit from Tehran,
the flag of Iran has been left to decorate the main thoroughfare in
Minsk. Mr. Lukashenko is arming himself with cutting-edge Sukoyev
Su-30s.
Last week, in a chilling echo of the Balkan conflict, Belarus special
forces stormed buildings used by the nearly 500,000 strong ethnic
Polish community — some of whom live in the village of Kosciuszko’s
birth. The woman who leads the Union of Poles, Andzelika Borys,
yesterday was questioned by police; her deputy and four other
Union activists are in prison. Minsk is trying to replace her with
a quisling. In protest, Warsaw last week withdrew its ambassador
from Minsk.
Poland, Belarus’ western neighbor and the EU’s largest new member,
is taking a far tougher line with Mr. Lukashenko than much of
Europe. Poland has provided refuge for Belarusian émigrés who support
the democracy movement, and has allowed the Belarusian opposition
to use Warsaw as a place to work with Western NGOs and diplomats,
assemble and speak freely without fear of reprisal.
This policy is buoyed by American legislation. Washington’s Belarus
Democracy Act 2004 grants financial backing to promote human rights
and democratic development in Belarus. But as evidenced by a letter
from the Polish foreign ministry to European leaders last month,
at the start of the crisis, Poland is having to work to get the EU
to follow suit.
In private, some EU diplomats emphasize that it is important not to
antagonize Russia, an ally of Belarus, and dismissively claim that
Poland has an interest in raising its profile through conflict.
But Poland’s Eastern policy is set to get tougher still. After
elections next month, Poland’s ruling ex-communists are likely to be
replaced by the conservative opposition. When I recently interviewed
a leading candidate for prime minister, Jan Rokita, he spoke of
foreign policy in positively neoconservative terms. “This now ends
the period of mild politics,” he said of the crackdown on the Polish
minority. “Ours will be a simple message: Lukashenko must go. I will
do all I can to help the Belarus opposition and I will want the EU
to engage rather than look the other way.”
On Monday, Mr. Rokita’s colleague and presidential candidate Donald
Tusk crossed into Belarus to show the Polish community there that they
aren’t alone. Since then, Belarusian Poles who met with Mr. Tusk have
been jailed, and one of the prisoners, Andrzej Pisalnik, who edits
the Polish-language newspaper, has responded by going on hunger strike.
Meanwhile, also on Monday, an emerging opposition leader, Alexander
Milinkevitch was in Poland. “This is not an ethnic minority problem,”
Mr. Milinkevitch told me. “This is a civil rights problem for all
Belarusian people from whatever background. Lukashenko is destroying
civic society and we’ve got to stop him.”
Mr. Milinkevitch believes that there is a European tendency to consign
the current crisis between Warsaw and Minsk to the realm of bilateral
relations. To continue to believe this, he argues, would play into
Mr. Lukashenko’s hands. His immediate wish is for Europe to rally
round Poland in support of democracy in Belarus.
The shared vision of Jan Rokita and Alexander Milinkevitch is rooted in
history. From the sixteenth century, Belarus was united with Lithuania,
Ukraine and Poland in a state known as the “Rzeczpospolita Polska,”
or Polish Commonwealth. Much like in the United Kingdom or the U.S.,
citizens could belong to any or several cultural groups but swear
allegiance to one state.
In such traditions tolerance is born. It is no coincidence that
European Jews, Armenians and Protestants thrived in the Rzeczpospolita
when they were hounded elsewhere. The Rzeczpospolita also produced
Europe’s first written constitution, which was defended militarily by
Kosciuszko, who was born in Belarus of Lithuanian stock, spoke Polish,
and was awarded American citizenship.
It is also unsurprising that the Czarist and Soviet empires attempted
to rub out this history. “Until perestroika I thought I was Russian,
and a minor Russian at that,” commented Mr. Milinkevitch. “All my
life, like everyone in Belarus and Ukraine, I’d been told that Russian
history was our history, and that we didn’t have our own. Now that
we have learnt about ourselves, we want change.”
As a means of coercion, President Lukashenko is doing everything to
russify the nation and make sure the historical links with Poland
aren’t restored. He has changed the national flag from the medieval
red and white Belarusian banner it was in the 1990s to a near copy
of the Soviet era symbol. He has closed Jewish, Polish and Belarusian
schools and established Russian replacements. For years he has touted
plans to reunify with Russia, though they’ve never gone far.
Europe can stand by and watch Belarus, a European country, plunge
into a totalitarian abyss. Or it can recognize and support the immense
effort of so many Belarusians to become a democracy.
Mr. Tchorek is a freelance journalist.
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AzerTag, Azerbaijan
Aug 5 2005
RADICAL OPPOSITION WILL COLLABORATE WITH DEVIL FOR THE SAKE OF COMING
TO THE POWER ALI KARIMLI, TALKING PROFUSELY ABOUT THE NATIVE LAND
AND NATION, DRAWS YOUTH INTO TREASON THROUGH MOVEMENT “YENI FIKIR”
[August 05, 2005, 22:00:39]
As was reported the General Prosecutor Office has disseminated special
report on the visit on July 28-29 of chairman of the “Yeni Fikir” youth
movement Ruslan Bashirli and the movement’s member Osman Alimuradov to
Tbilisi on the order of chairman of the Azerbaijan People Front Party
Ali Karimli where they have meeting with a certain Merabi Jibutia,
and being indeed as officers of the Armenian special services Georgi
Ispiryan and some person called as Vardan.
AzerTAj presents text of conversation between the above mentioned
persons in Tbilisi, on July 29.
X X X
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: Now we should be helping you, and after the coming
to the power you should help us.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: You (addressed to Osman Alimuradov) are told him we’ll
like to hold a meeting with some governmental parties in the country.
MERABI JIBUTIA: That’s good.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: Do you saw our office?
MERABÝ JÝBUTÝA: Yes, I do.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: It’s at the city center, but there is Azadliq
newspaper. The same time they’re occupied by the People Front Party
and the largest news agency of the Caucasus and the Central Asia –
‘Turan’. There also located ‘Bizim Yol’ newspaper too. It’s a bit
closer for us. We have a small room for our organization, that only
one youth organization in the country possessing a separate office.
We are got it from Ali Karimli.
MERABÝ JÝBUTÝA: That’s good. Because on the eve of every deal it’s
necessary to have a separate office. There you will receive people,
hold meetings and discuss relevant questions.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: For example, Azerbaijan is a large country and
there are enormous natural recourses. The country is located in very
favorable strategic place, and how shall I put it, Azerbaijan, perhaps,
will be as Belgium or Poland. But, Azerbaijan remains behind even
Georgia. There are issues in regards which Azerbaijan falls behind
even the more weak state in Caucasus – Armenia.
MERABI JUBUTIA: We are not nationalist. Somebody says we are
nationalists. It’s not truth. A man who is far from nationalism
will move forward everywhere. The war between Armenia and Azerbaijan
is initiated by Russia. Georgi will speak of that. I would like to
drink the honor of Caucasus and Azerbaijan. I wish happiness to all
nations. I would like that all be aware. All will best in Azerbaijan.
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: Good luck, on the honor all Caucasus. Now are what
happening in your country and Armenia? There is business in progress,
people are making a money. Your or I needn’t in war. We are don’t fight
but their will. It’s not necessary for us. What the cause that you are
Azerbaijanis or I’m Armenian. We all the people. Our close relations
are not advantageous for Russia. Just a first approximation… There
are faults from your and our sides too. It’s only Russia will to blame.
MERABI JIBUTIA: If all organizations will cooperate as ours. We are
like peace and democracy.
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: We are like to derive out the regime in Azerbaijan
and will do all necessary for it. After ten or twelve days we would
help you in a round sum.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: In Azerbaijan is more profitable places. The country
had oil industry, strongest oil industry. There is also tourism. But
the oil most important for us.
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: Yes, the oil is first.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: In a meetings that we attended to date together with
Said, Osman, Ahmad and others, we are not hear any concrete issues,
but three days ago representative of the Institution of National
Democracy has concretely said that should be preparations for the
revolution. Therefore, Said will leave tomorrow for Poland where
will get training during a week. Will also leave the deputy chairman
for political affairs of the People Front Party Fuad Mustafayev.
Representative of the Institution of National Democracy has already
told me what to do. Because of hot weather in our country are not
expected a serious rallies. We will suspend it till September and I
will reopen our plans and all must be remained secretly.
In September we must organize rally of 100 thousands people. I tell
you these because you are our friends. In other words, all these
plans are from America. The public in Georgia shouldn’t aware of these
excepting the two man. All conversation should be remained secretly.
MERABI JIBUTIA: Really? Thanks.
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: If you will need some aid from the Armenian side,
there are some friends. I will take something completely against
Aliyev. We are able to organize uprising in Armenia too.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: What, in Armenia?
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: Yes, there.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: I see. You (Osman Alimuradov) tell him it will in
benefit of Aliyevs. They are not aware on the Azerbaijani society.
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: Armenians are always ready for democracy.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: Azerbaijan is open for You forever. We will change
this country and afterwards you will make business there as citizens
of our country. As friends of our citizens and ourselves you will
have a good chances in Azerbaijan.
As regards the problem which is seriously stand before us, the
conflict over Karabakh, we have recognizes occupation of our land.
But we consider that democrats will always collaborate. If we like
to be as part of Europe and the global world then we should simply
find solution to all these problems.
MERABI JIBUTIA: Yes, it’s a global problem.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: Today’s problems in the world not settled through
war. They will find its solution behind the table, drinking cognac
and eating chocolate. We are friends. I said it about Armenians.
MERABI JIBUTIA: Thank you. Sat down.
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: Thanks, I’m satisfied. We like to Your coming to
the power. Therefore youth must hold fighting. I think, we will agree
and all will be best. We will render a financial assistance to your
organization. Maybe after 8-10-12 days you will get these aids. We
like that you come to the power and help to us.
MERABI JIBUTIA: We must unify as fist.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: I will disclose for You one more issue. On the eve
of the elections is planning a meeting of our candidate, as well as
the candidate of all opposition Ali Karimli with Georgian President
Mikheil Saakashvili.
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: All rights.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: He had a men there and they prepare a meeting. If
Ali Karimli will recognized in Europe and by Europeans then…
GEORGI ISPIRYAN: I will help from my side. Now will give 2 thousands
dollars and we will meet after 15 days. Then I will give you 20
thousands dollars. We are helping as we can. When you will come to
the power we will get aid from you.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: It will be a big aid.
MERABI JIBUTIA: You must know that we are given this money for
developing of democracy.
GEORGÝ ISPIRYAN: Yes, only for the sake of democracy.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: I must sign here?
MERABI JIBUTIA: Yes. All rights.
(Ruslan Bashirli signing the check and getting 2 thousands dollars)
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: We will take a street on November 6 and get the
power on November 7.
GEORGÝ ISPIRYAN: Good luck.
(Ruslan Bashirli and Osman Alimuradov talking confidentially)
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: Osman, I will spend 500 from these to my wedding and
1000 we must return to themselves that in any circumstances they will
deny all these. As it is we will remain without anything.
GEORGÝ ISPIRYAN: When will happen your meeting I will make a good
shoot.
I will dring 30 glass of beer.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: Our editor-in-chief Ganimat Zahidov will drink 50
glass. GEORGÝ ISPIRYAN: Really?
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: Yes. For the weekend he drink and not anything
happening. Tell him I will show this money to Ali Karimli and if
he will arrive in Baku I will organize his meeting with Ali Karimli
who is help me on the political issues. Around Ali Karimli are 5-10
non-governmental organizations and businessmen. The later have living
today abroad and will help as they can.
MERABI JIBUTIA: You will convey our greetings to our friends in Baku.
But nobody shouldn’t hear it. We have a friends everywhere where
Azerbaijanis in war. If it necessary we will use the Armenian military
forces against your government.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: They’re like to break the cease-fire?
MERABI JIBUTIA: It’s for uprising against your government.
RUSLAN BASHIRLI: We are friends with Georgians. Allah grant, thank
goodness that we will together with Armenians soon.
If they have courage, they will come tomorrow and we will give to him
oil, all things. Let their economy will develop. Then, they will not
suffering. Now they haven’t anything.
X X X
In conclusion, Ruslan Bashirli, Georgi Ispiryan and Merabi Jibutia
have been taking photograph.
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From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress

Ankara postpones Deiss visit to Turkey
Swissinfo, Switzerland
Aug 5 2005
The Turkish authorities have postponed a visit to Turkey next month
by Swiss Economics Minister Joseph Deiss.
They have cited agenda problems of his Turkish counterpart, although
it is widely considered in Switzerland that the real cause for the
postponement is the Armenian genocide issue.
It is the second time that Ankara has made such a delaying move. In
September 2003, Turkish authorities cancelled a visit by the Swiss
foreign minister, Micheline Calmy-Rey. She eventually visited the
country in March.
The Swiss authorities confirmed reports in Friday~Rs edition of
the Zurich newspaper Tages Anzeiger and Geneva~Rs Le Temps that
Switzerland~Rs ambassador to Turkey had received an official note
cancelling Deiss~Rs trip.
It said that the Turkish economics minister, Kürsad Tüzmen, was
unavailable on the dates that had been pencilled in. As a result the
planned trip could not take place in September.
However the Turkish embassy in Bern said the visit had only been
postponed and denied any link to a criminal investigation into a
Turkish party leader in Switzerland.
“Mr Deiss’s visit is to be worked out through mutual contacts on both
sides in the period ahead,” Sibel Gal, press attaché at the Turkish
embassy, told swissinfo.
Snub
The snub is the latest episode in tensions between Ankara and Bern,
provoked indirectly by the commemoration two weeks ago of the 1923
Treaty of Lausanne, which defined the borders of modern Turkey.
Ankara has criticised Swiss authorities for opening an investigation
into Doðu Perinçek, head of the Turkish Workers~R Party who denied
the Armenian genocide at a news conference in canton Zurich.
Under Swiss law, any act of denying, belittling or justifying genocide
is a violation of the country~Rs anti-racism laws.
Perinçek, who appeared before the public prosecutor of Winterhur, is
also the subject of investigation for the same reason in canton Vaud.
A similar investigation in Winterthur has been opened in the case of
Turkish historian Yusuf Halaçoðlu.
The Turkish government, which has strongly condemned the Swiss action,
considers that the investigations are contrary to international law
and has demanded they be stopped.
Diplomatic spat
In a diplomatic spat, the ambassador of Switzerland in Turkey was
last week summoned to explain Switzerland~Rs position, while Turkey~Rs
envoy in Bern visited the Swiss foreign ministry a day later.
The Swiss economics ministry has expressed regret at Ankara~Rs
decision, hoping that the visit could take place at a later date.
The trip was a working visit with a delegation of Swiss business
leaders. Such trips take place about once every four years with
countries that represent an important market for Switzerland.
The ministry commented that if the real reason for the postponement
were due to the investigations it would regret that because Switzerland
practised “the separation of powers which is an essential value of
its democracy”.
The House of Representatives is the only federal institution that
has officially recognised genocide against the Armenians.
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From: Baghdasarian