Oskanian-Mammadyarov Meeting Likely To Be Held December 4-5 InLjublj

OSKANIAN-MAMMADYAROV MEETING LIKELY TO BE HELD DECEMBER 4-5 IN LJUBLJANA, AZERI SOURCES REPORT

Pan Armenian
03.10.2005 13:22

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ The recurrent meeting of the Azerbaijani and
Armenian Foreign Ministers is likely to take place during the summit
of the OSCE Foreign Ministers to be held in Ljubljana December 3-4,
Azeri FM Elmar Mammadyarov stated. He also informed that OSCE Minsk
Group U.S. Co-Chairs Steven Mann will arrive in Baku late October to
hold meeting with the Azerbaijani leadership. Meanwhile, the Armenian
Foreign Ministry did not confirm the information on the terms of the
Oskanian-Mammadyarov meeting.

From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress

Turkish Society Split On Genocide, The EU And Many Other Issues

TURKISH SOCIETY SPLIT ON GENOCIDE, THE EU, AND MANY OTHER ISSUES
By Harut Sassounian; Publisher, The California Courier

AZG Armenian Daily #177
04/10/2005
Turkey-EU

For 90 years, Turkish officials have denied the reality of the
Armenian Genocide. During the past weekend, for the first time in
Turkish history, a conference was held in Istanbul during which Turkish
scholars challenged the revisionist position of their own government
on the Armenian Genocide. This was not an easy accomplishment. It
came about after the organizers struggled to overcome a series of
almost insurmountable legal obstacles and physical attacks.

The conference was originally planned for last May. However, Justice
Minister Cemil Cicek caused its cancellation at the last minute by
accusing the participating Turkish scholars of being “traitors” and
“stabbing Turkey in the back.”

Embarrassed by stinging criticism from many European officials,
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan quietly urged the organizers
to reschedule the conference for Sept. 23-25, just days before the
planned start of talks for Turkey’s EU membership. Foreign Minister
Abdullah Gul even promised to deliver the opening remarks at this
unprecedented gathering of Turkish scholars.

However, just hours before the start of the conference, an Istanbul
court issued an order suspending the gathering. The judge gave the
organizers 30 days to respond to a series of bizarre questions on the
qualifications and selection of the scholars as well as the financing
of their travel and lodging expenses.

This eleventh-hour postponement of the conference stunned not only
the EU officials but also most of the Turkish public, including the
overwhelming majority of newspapers and TV stations in Turkey. Both
the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister saw the court order as an
attempt to derail Turkey’s EU membership drive. The judge, petitioned
by ultra-nationalists, clearly exceeded his jurisdiction by interfering
in the internal affairs of an academic institution.

The conference, titled “Ottoman Armenians During the Decline of
the Empire: Issues of Scientific Responsibility and Democracy,”
was finally held during the past weekend after changing its venue to
Bilgi University. The organizers either took or were allowed to take
advantage of a loophole in the court order that had specifically banned
two of the three co-sponsoring universities (Bogazici and Sabanci),
but not the third – Bilgi University.

Ultra-nationalist groups and retired military officers had urged all
“patriotic” Turks to converge on the conference site and disrupt the
proceedings. They called the participating Turkish scholars traitors.

Despite the presence of a strong police force to protect the university
from attacks by extremists, the protesters managed to pelt the
participants by eggs and rotten tomatoes. A few trouble-makers even
managed to sneak into the hall and attempt to disrupt the discussions.

Once they passed the gauntlet, scores of scholars presented their
papers over a two-day period. Most of them carefully avoided the
use of the word genocide, due to their fear of being hauled into
court and charged with “denigrating” the Turkish nation. Some of the
participants were also weary of being accused of siding with Armenians
on this emotionally charged issue.

The scholars made it clear, however, that Ottoman officials had
organized the mass deportations and the subsequent killings of hundreds
of thousands of Armenians.

Even though there were very few new revelations on the topic of
the Armenian Genocide during the course of the conference, the
significant aspect of the gathering was the fact that it took place
at all. This is the first time that a group of Turkish scholars,
facing the wrath of many of their radical compatriots and a legal
ban, had dared to challenge the official revisionist position of the
Turkish establishment on this issue.

Of course, the proximity of the date of the planned start of Turkey’s
EU membership talks on Oct. 3 played a considerable role in winning
the tacit and reluctant support of the Turkish government for this
conference. Neither Erdogan nor Gul were probably motivated by their
“deep seated beliefs” in academic freedom to support the holding of
such a conference in Turkey.

Turkish society still has a long and uphill battle in deciding
its future.

There are powerful conflicting forces within Turkey tearing the
country into two divergent directions: one looking to Europe and the
other to an ultra-nationalist, Islamist, and pan-Turkist orientation.

Before the Turks worry about whether the Europeans would allow them
to join the EU, they themselves would have to decide the direction
of their own society. When millions of Turks are still fanatically
clinging to their old authoritarian mentality, no matter which new
laws their government adopts and which agreements their leaders sign,
at the end of the day, these documents are meaningless pieces of
paper. Prime Minister Erdogan’s saying that his country should be a
part of Europe does not make it so. True reform must first take place
in the hearts and minds of the people, before it can be adopted as
a legal code. Such reforms cannot be imposed from outside.

They have to come from within Turkish society.

How long would it take to reform Turkish society is a question to
which no one knows the answer. When millions of Turks are still
adamantly opposed to the most basic values shared by Europeans,
it is clear that they are neither ready now nor would they be ready
anytime soon to join the EU.

Turkey should neither be rejected right away nor accepted into
the EU in the foreseeable future. Turkey should not be admitted
now because it’s not and would not be ready to join the ranks of
civilized European nations nor should it be rejected outright for
fear of setting completely loose a monster that would be a clear and
present danger to its immediate neighborhood!
From: Baghdasarian

Turkey Agreed To EU Conditions On Membership Talks

TURKEY AGREED TO EU CONDITIONS ON MEMBERSHIP TALKS
By Hakob Chakrian

AZG Armenian Daily #177
04/10/2005

EU-Turkey

Austria Gave In to European Neighbors, Whereas the Latter Yielded to
Erdogan’s Government

On 2 October, foreign minister of the EU member states who gathered
in Luxemburg failed to come to a unanimous decision over the final
negotiation document with Turkey; the special meeting carried on
the next day. On 2 October, the International Monetary Fund spoke
out in favor of negotiations with Turkey and Javier Solana, EU High
Representative for Common Foreign and Security Policy, expressed
hope that the foreign minister’s meeting will have a positive outcome
reminding that “previous decisions concerning Turkey also were taken
at the last moment”.

That very day when EU foreign ministers were discussing the start
of EU-Turkey talks, Turks were marching in Istanbul and Ankara with
banners reading “No to EU”. The protest rally of Istanbul gathered
1.000 participants whereas the one in Ankara, organized by “grey
wolves” political organization and National Movement Party recruited
100.000. Holding forth before its party members, president of the
party, Devlet Bahcel, called October the 3d “not a beginning of
negotiations with the EU but an end of capitulation”. He posed a
question in his speech: “Is it possible that Turkey joins Europe
at the cost of denying the Cypriot Turks and giving in to Armenian
lies?” and appealed to Prime Minister Erdogan: “Dear Prime Minister,
our country has sunk into darkness because of your petitions. Do
not give cause for putting new demands before you and demand new
compromises from you. Accept that our country pays great price for
your love for the EU based on capitulation. Do not commit new sins,
turn down the negotiations”.

Turkey has not rejected negotiations. Meanwhile EU foreign ministers
yesterday reached a deal clearing the way for accession talks with
Turkey to begin.

BAKU: Over Half Of People Support Military Action To Resolve Garabag

OVER HALF OF PEOPLE SUPPORT MILITARY ACTION TO RESOLVE GARABAGH CONFLICT – SURVEY

Assa-Irada, Azerbaijan
Oct 4 2005

Baku, October 3, AssA-Irada
51% of the Azerbaijani citizens believe settlement of the
Armenia-Azerbaijan Upper Garabagh conflict is possible through military
action, while 32% through negotiations, according to a survey held
by the hard-line Garabagh Liberation Organization (GLO) among 2,102
respondents on Saturday.

According to the results of another poll conducted by the GLO in
September, 49% of people deemed resolution of the Garabagh conflict
through war possible, while 35% gave preference to peace.

54% of young men and 31% of women want the conflict to be settled
through military operations, while 29% and 49% respectively – by
peaceful means. Most of the elderly said they consider the conflict
settlement possible through military action.*

Ahmed Necet Sezer: Turkey Ready To Assist Karabakh Settlement

AHMED NECET SEZER: TURKEY READY TO ASSIST KARABAKH SETTLEMENT

Pan Armenian
03.10.2005 13:51

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ “The Nagorno Karabakh and Abkhazian conflicts impede
the establishment of peace and stability in the South Caucasus”,
Turkish President Ahmed Necet Sezer. In his words, the peaceful
settlement of the Nagorno Karabakh conflict will bring political
stability to the South Caucasian region and Turkey exerts every effort
to assist the process.

According to Sezer, the Karabakh issue emerged after the “occupation
of the Azeri territories by Armenia.” Turkey is ready to support a
variant admissible for both parties to the conflict”, the Turkish
President stated.

Turkey & EU Open Negotiations

TURKEY & EU OPEN NEGOTIATIONS
Written by Brussels journalist David Ferguson

Euro-reporters.com, Belgium
Oct 4 2005

“We’ve just made history,” said UK Foreign Minister Jack Straw
opening negotiations with Turkey on EU membership. Delayed by over
six hours due to persistent objections by Austria, negotiations
with the predominantly Muslim country were formally opened early this
morning. Speaking alongside Straw was European Enlargement Commissioner
Olli Rehn and Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul.

“I was always confident to reach an agreement for 3 October. It is
essential for us to keep our commitments. This is what we have done
now and will do in the future. We are starting a new era with Turkey,”
said Rehn.

Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul arrived late on Monday night,
only after Austria’s claim to a clause on an alternative ‘privileged
partnership’ had been removed: “The most important thing is that
Turkey has received a full membership perspective and there is no
alternative,” said Gul. “When the time comes we will become full
members, We will overcome the obstacles and we are not the only ones
with problems. This will be worth the effort,” said Gul.

Turkey, a Muslim country of 72 million people, has been trying to
enter the European Union, and its predecessors, for over 40 years.

Objections included the state of human rights, treatment of ethnic
and religious minorities such as the Kurds, and Ankara’s refusal
to recognize the Republic of Cyprus or the Armenian genocide. EU
negotiations are expected to last at least 15 years.

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BAKU: US State Dept. Replies To Pro-Armenian Congressman

U.S. STATE DEPARTMENT REPLIES TO PRO-ARMENIAN CONGRESSMEN

AzerTag, Azerbaijan
Oct 4 2005

A group of Congressmen addressing President Bush appealed to him to
recognize the so-called “Nagorno Karabakh Republic”, correspondent
of AzerTAc reports. The letter runs: “The United States has rendered
direct humanitarian assistance to Nagorno Karabakh to restore the
war-torn economy”. The Congressmen ask George bush to increase
this aid and uphold the “Nagorno Karabakh residents’ rights for
self-determination”. The most surprised is that according to the
Congressmen, “Nagorno Karabakh made significant contribution to peace
and stability in the strategically important South Caucasus region”.

The Department of State has replied to these pro-Armenian members
of Congress. Spokesman of the State Department Mr. Mccormack in his
daily briefing has stated that there is no change in the policy over
Nagorno Karabakh “We support the work that the OSCE Minsk Group as
well as any efforts by Azerbaijan and Armenia to resolve the conflict
there is no change in our policy”.

It has to be mentioned that in February current year the United States
had disseminated its official position over the Armenia-Azerbaijan,
Nagorno Karabakh conflict in the fact list titled “United States and
Nagorno Karabakh”. At that time it was noted “the United States does
not recognize Nagorno Karabakh as independent state, its authorities
are neither recognized by the international community, nor the
US. The United States supports territorial integrity of Azerbaijan,
and considers that the future status of Nagorno Karabakh should be
specified through negotiations between the sides”.

Greek Defense Minister To Visit Armenia Oct 4

GREEK DEFENSE MINISTER TO VISIT ARMENIA OCTOBER 4

Pan Armenian
03.10.2005 14:42

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ October 4 the Greek delegation headed by Defense
Minister Spilios Spiliotopoulos will arrive in Armenia on a formal
visit, RA MOD Spokesman, Col. Seyran Shahsuvarian told PanARMENIAN.Net
reporter. Spilios Spiliotopoulos is scheduled to meet with Armenian
President Robert Kocharian, Prime Minister Andranik Margaryan and
Minister of Defense Serge Sargsyan. Besides, the delegation members
will attend the Genocide Museum and lay a wreath to the memorial to
the Armenian Genocide victims. They will also visit Holy Echmiadzin
and meet with Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin II.

From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress

Protest Action Against EU-Turkey Talks Held At EU Yerevan Office Tod

PROTEST ACTION AGAINST EU-TURKEY TALKS HELD AT EU YEREVAN OFFICE TODAY

Pan Armenian
03.10.2005 13:04

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Today the youth wing of the ARF Dashnaktsutyun
has organized an action in front of the EU Yerevan Office to protest
against the EU-Turkey’s talks scheduled to open on October 3. “Via this
action we protest against Turkey’s attempt to join Europe. Turkey is a
country with bloody hands, a country that perpetrated Genocide. Europe
being an embodiment of democratic ideas cannot accept a country like
Turkey. The matter concerns not only the Armenian Genocide but the
way national minorities are treated there, constant infringement of
human and political rights,” one of the action initiators stated in
a conversation with PanARMENIAN.Net reporter. The action initiators
have addressed a letter to the EU member-states and the UK Embassy in
Armenia. The letter says in part, “The Armenian Genocide perpetrated
in 1915 is the first crime against humanity targeted at elimination of
a whole nation, one of the founders of the world civilization. Despite
this, the super powers do not pay proper attention to the issue. The
90-th anniversary of the Armenian Genocide is being marked this
year. During these 90 years and until now Turkey pursues the policy of
denial imposing blockade upon Armenia and holding a biased position on
the Nagorno Karabakh conflict. National and religious minorities are
still treated with scorn in Turkey, constitutional human rights are
not observed. Today Turkey with its hands in blood is trying to join
the European family. We call upon the EU member-states, in the name
of democracy, peoples and human rights not to open negotiations with
Turkey, for this country has not acknowledged the Armenian Genocide
yet and keeps on using violence against the national minorities. The
accession of today’s Turkey to the European Union will undermine the
authority of the organization in the opinion of peoples throughout
the globe.”