RPA GM member Artak Zakaryan wrote on his Facebook page:

“From today, a new parliament, new deputies, a new ratio of political forces, and new threats for Armenia.
Everything must be done to overcome the trials and challenges facing our country.

I wish the parliamentary opposition a healthy mind, a clear understanding of the vital interests of Armenia and the Armenian people, consistent work towards the many concerns and problems of our citizens, an unbreakable spirit of political struggle, principledness, unity and political will to achieve a change of power.

P.S. I am not sure that the parliament of the 9th convocation will function for its entire constitutional term. I tend to think that it will have a brief and diverse history similar to the activities of the National Assembly of the 6th convocation.”

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Can you declare and guarantee that you will not hand over Tigranashen under any circumstances, under any pretext and under any circumstances during the years of your power? At the opening session of the first session of the 9th convocation of the National Assembly, “Armenia” Bloc MP Ishkhan Saghatelyan asked this question to Ruben Rubinyan, a candidate for the post of NA Speaker.

In response, Rubinyan did not speak clearly.

“I can guarantee that the internationally recognized territory of Armenia is 29,743 square kilometers, and it is a complete and indisputable red line. I can guarantee that the announced plan of the government of Armenia, which has been approved by the people, is that all the territories that are within the internationally recognized borders of Armenia must be under our control, and this issue must be resolved within the framework of demarcation. As for other issues, other issues, according to the regulations of the demarcation commissions, can be solved differently, because the regulations allow for certain optimizations, but even then, it requires a referendum.”

Ishkhan Saghatelyan responded with a clarification. “I didn’t understand what the optimization of territories means, but let’s just record that I am asking a very clear, simple, direct question, and it is no coincidence that I am asking about Tigranashen. Tigranashen is a base of strategic importance for us. Now, is Tigranashen included in the territorial integrity of Armenia you mentioned or not? And I repeat again, Mr. Rubinyan, it is not by chance that I ask. “Can you deny the rumors that you are going to hand over Tigranashen in the name of demarcation, demarcation, enclaves?”

The policeman noticed: “Optimization, theoretically, means when, for example, the parties decide to make some small changes within the framework of a small demarcation, so that the life of border villages, for example, is not disturbed, or the relief is taken into account (note that I am saying this, I am saying this only theoretically, this issue was not discussed between the demarcation commissions) theoretically, such an opportunity can also be in the issue of enclaves.

And what about the internationally recognized territory of RA, I think everyone knows what that territory is, and it is a well-known fact, and it cannot be discussed for us.”

Details in the video

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The other day, after the session of the CP Board, Nikol Pashinyan said in a briefing with journalists that the President of the Russian Federation did not congratulate him on his re-election, he does not know the reason. “He didn’t want to, he didn’t congratulate,” Nikol Pashinyan said briefly.

Speaking about the Armenian railway after the last session of the government, Nikol Pashinyan said that his position regarding the Armenian railway is known: it is the property of Armenia and it should be used as it sees fit.

He emphasized that they want to resolve this issue with Russia amicably, and if there is a problem, they will go to the arbitration court and resolve the issue.

Military expert Davit Jamalyan speaking about the current stage of Armenian-Russian relations, he first reminded that Russia has introduced restrictions against the import of a number of Armenian products, which, of course, is not an economic, but a political decision.

Davit Jamalyan elaborated on why Russia takes such steps.

“Any superpower, especially one with an imperial past, has a considerable resource of patience. In particular, taking into account the traditions and history of the Russian state, we see that decisions are not made all at once. In 2021, 5 years ago, they gave a chance to remain in power to the illegitimate, treacherous junta that surrenders the homeland in Armenia. This was their fatal mistake, which hit both them and us. Our and their interests coincide in many issues, they are almost identical, this was a serious blow to our collective alliance relations. of 168.am Davit Jamalyan said in a conversation with

According to the expert, in Moscow they assumed that the weakened Nikol Pashinyan could not take an open anti-Russian path, they thought that if Artsakh’s security was provided by them, they had bases in Syunik, Nikol Pashinyan would not take pronounced anti-Russian steps.

“They did not understand that Nikol Pashinyan was brought to the region precisely to remove Russia from here. He consistently followed that path, step by step the Russian ties were severed and the crisis began. Now it has come to the point that they are talking about European integration, when no one in the EU is waiting for us,” added Davit Jamalyan.

He is sure that the authorities of the day of Armenia are sure that they cannot enter the EU as a full member of that structure, and at the same time they also know that the price for the continuation of their power is to cut off Armenia from Russia.

“They are already taking open steps to leave Russia. The world is preparing for the third world war, which, of course, is a horrible prospect, but it is a fact.

Now, several countries are trying to push Armenia into the Turanian project, because Europe and the United States cannot make Turkey sufficiently manageable. Therefore, they have to take into account with him and take his interests into account and take anti-Russian steps forward.

In Russia, they see all this and understand that Nikol Pashinyan does not want to settle relations with Russia, but to make it easier to cut ties with Russia in order to prevent a social riot,” emphasized our interlocutor.

Continuing, Davit Jamalyan said that the Russian Federation did not hold Nikol Pashinyan’s hand, it only says that you can go to the EU, but first leave the EAEU. In general, the position of the Russian side on such issues is tough, and this is not only about relations with Armenia.

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How are the caves formed, which type is only in Armenia, what are the obstacles in terms of turning these places into tourist centers? We talked about these and other issues speleologist Smbat Davtyan with.

– 1975-80 you studied at the Faculty of Geography of YSU, in the Department of Geomorphology and Cartography. Since then, have you become interested in caves?

– In my student years, there was such a subject as geomorphology, and the professors said that it studied the landforms of the earth. river valleys, glaciers, caves. They also said that there is no need to wait for long caves in Armenia under these conditions. Well, we also saw the smaller ones, the volcanic caves. After graduating from the university, the scientific secretary of the Armenian Geographical Society, Rafael Vanyan, invited me to work, asking if I would do mapping work, and I thought, if I do it on the surface of the earth, why shouldn’t I do it underground? In fact, there is a difference between mountains and valleys. In 1981 The government of the Armenian SSR made a decision, that is, the 3 caves of Vayots Dzor – Arjeri, Mozrovi, Magellani – should be turned into tourist facilities.

Before that, one of our climbers, Edward Sargsyan, gathered a group that was studying the caves of Armenia. They reached Vayots Dzor and an interesting event happened. During the construction of the road, blasting was done and a cave was opened. Then it was called Mozrov Cave.

They came to study, they saw that it was valuable. Then Magellan Arakelyan, one of the hunters of Areni village, approached the group of researchers, saying that he had found such a large cave. Takes, shows. In the village, he was called Magel, and the cave was named that way.

Then the Cave of Bears was also discovered (1978), and since we had no experience, specialists were invited from the National Academy of Sciences of Ukraine under the leadership of Alexander Klimchuk. A part of the Bear Cave was studied, a project was presented, in 1984. the second part of the cave was discovered, they did not come.

Vanyan called and said, “It’s almost time for you, let’s see what you’re doing.” I went, I look, people are barely crawling past, will it be possible to map the cave? We shortened the statives, created interesting things, did that part, a wonderful image was obtained. Unfortunately, that image is distorted now, because the cave was open for a long time and was exposed to barbarism. The same is the cave of Mozrov. Magellan’s cave was found in a more or less good condition because it was kept closed for a long time.

In 2015, when the Government made a decision to use those caves again, a tender was announced, organizations participated and were able to rent the caves. Magellan and Areni 1 are fully used, Mozrov and Arjer will be impossible to use due to the lack of infrastructure.

And thirdly, the cave with stone doors in Aragatsotn marz is already ready for operation, the direct tenant is probably conducting marketing research. let’s see what the consequences will be.

– Did the caves harm people?

– Yes. See, you will be surprised with what primitive judgment they destroyed everything. The stones are ordinary calcium CO3, the same cement material, they thought it was something precious. Yes, it is actually expensive, but for science. The Institute of Geology is carrying out various projects, samples were taken from all the caves and it was found that the process of cave formation started approximately half a million years ago and ended approximately 50,000 years ago. With that cut, they can determine what climatic conditions there were, what plants grew, what moisture supply there was. But that stone is broken, taken home, after 2-3 years, when it is free of moisture, and the cave is always moist, it turns into dust under those conditions. They cannot keep such things at home.

– How are caves formed?

– Two conditions are necessary for the formation of a cave. if we talk about karst caves, which are the most luxurious, they contain limestone, dolomite, marl, and sometimes salt, which are easily dissolved in water. As well as the presence of water is needed. In this case, caves are formed, but for a long time in science, the opinion was widespread that caves are formed when water pours into these rocks from above. But when you see that there are dome-shaped recesses on the ceiling of the cave, water cannot come and rise. And the opinion was born, the pioneer of which was Klimchuk, that is, the waters coming out from below with high pressure destroyed all that. Indeed, all our caves, at least in Vayots Dzor, have that fold. They are called hypogene caves.

In the case of water coming down from above, they are called epigen. The largest caves in the world are of hypogene origin. Each cave takes millions of years to form. Our caves were formed during the last 1.5-2 million years, when hot waters came out from the subsoil under high pressure and washed the layers.

Volcanic caves are also widespread in RA. They are of two types. One part is the lava tunnels. Hot lava erupts, the upper crust cools quickly, there is still molten lava inside. Then a void is formed and they are called lava tunnels. There are also erosion caves. In the Hrazdan gorge, in Lori, when the river begins to destroy those volcanic layers from above, it enters the layers through lateral erosion.

The third largest group are man-made caves, when people have destroyed them. Goris, Khndzoresk, Geghard have such origins. Imagine, people create a building with artificial means and cultural, religious, residential structures are obtained.

– Did the artificially created caves serve as a hiding place?

– Not just a hiding place. it can be churches, mines… anything. In the world, only near us there are caves with stone doors. Imagine a room that was designed to store grain. they are jar-like wells where grain was stored. And the entrance was closed with a stone door. It is 200-300 kg of stone, which you can easily open and close. It can be considered an engineering masterpiece. This type of cave exists only in RA, on the southern slopes of Aragats mountain, in the territories of Kosh, Ujan, and Verin Sasunik villages. Every year our young colleagues discover 2-3. In the 1980s, we found 40, now their number has reached 60. And our country must make serious efforts to protect them. These are fantastic things. Such is the world of caves. It will not occur to you that your ancestors decided to create such granaries 1000 years before you.

– In other words, new caves are being discovered.

– Of course. The discovery of the cave is a bit of a coincidence. You can pass the same path 100 times and not see it, and another person will pass it and see it. 40 years ago, we were working in the gorge of the Karadzor River, and I accidentally discovered a cave where there was a manuscript. It was a hot day. In 1986 it was the month of July and we were looking for a shade to take shelter in some crack. A crack appeared in the distance. We decided to take shelter so that we could work in the evening. There was no water, no trees, no bushes, a terrible desert. There were snakes and whatever. We were afraid to walk without looking at our feet. We climbed through the crack, sat down for a while. Then, when we stopped, we saw that the dust was going inside. This meant that there were volumes inside. If it weren’t for the dust, we would have continued on our way. We entered and went through the crack. it was a huge cave with the heads of ancient animals: a camel, a leopard, everything was there.

After finishing the measurements, I said, “Let me see what’s there.” When I cast the flashlight on the rock, I saw something square. I wiped off the dust and noticed that it was a book pattern. I opened it and saw the letters. We told our managers, the next day the director of the Matenadaran, Sam Arevshatyan, the head of the manuscripts department, Yuri Ter-Vardanyan, came and said, let’s see what you found. We went up and took it down. It turned out to be a 13th-century manuscript. If the weather was cool, we would not have climbed there in our lives.

– Do accidentally discovered caves get names?

– This is how it is accepted in the world: first they number. In addition, local names are used. One, let’s say, put the Bear’s cave, the other – Magellan’s, Mozrov’s. All of them are named after places, it is not desirable to name people, because there is a law that a cave can only be named after a person 10 years after his death.

– What was the name of what you found?

– Manuscript cave. It is located in Vedu region, approximately 4 km southwest of Zangakatun village. We have the problem of removing animal bones. If the zoologists ask, we will go and take it out, we will give it to them.

– A rock painting was found in Yeghegnadzor a few years ago, right?

– Yes, it is near Gandzak village. We found it during the work of the Armenian-Italian expedition. We went, it was an open space. One of the young men saw it and said it was a rock painting. Now I think the experts of the Institute of Archeology are studying it.

– I remember in 2016․ During the press conference, the speleologists said that the caves must be used by tourists, otherwise they will be destroyed. Why? Isn’t it the opposite?, go, nothing will happen.

– No. Any monument lives when it is used. If the cave is lost, anyone can enter and exit. The entire cultural layer of Magellan’s cave was made of stone and rubble. Gold had been collected, not to mention that the stalactites had been smashed. We have more than 10 caves that can be used, there is simply no interest, or people do not want to get into the bureaucracy.

In the caves of Magellan and Aren 1, young people work, who will not leave their villages.

– What dangers do caves contain?

– If they are improved and illuminated, there is no danger. But if you enter a wild cave, anything is possible. You can see a snake, a scorpion, especially in Armenia. Even if there is an earthquake, there will be more destruction outside than inside the cave. The Geghard caves are a structure of the 13th century. after that century, all the buildings were destroyed by the Garni earthquake, but only cracks appeared inside the cave.

– Who is interested in caves?․ those who love adventure tourism or vice versa?

– Adventure tourism lovers like to crawl in dust and mud. Others are interested in the culture, how people lived, what happened there, was it a permanent settlement or a shelter?

The expedition of the Institute of Archeology was conducting a joint study with the Czechs in the Magellan Cave. they found a piece of fabric. the analysis showed that the people of Areni took refuge in that very cave during the time of Shah Abbas. Shah Abbas came, emptied Eastern Armenia, he could not take the people of Areni, because they took refuge in a cave. The fabric showed the historical fact. Areni people are indigenous. They could not be transferred to Nor Jugha.

– Representatives of which field of science may be interested in the cave?․ are they doing research or not?

– To everyone. even the philosopher has something to do there. One of Plato’s works is called “The Cave”. Another thing is that it is usually difficult to generate such interest in our country. 40 years ago, when we were working, there were enough interested people, now their number has decreased.

We are a nation of builders, aren’t we? But let me say one thing. the architects who work on the surface of the earth had a different way of thinking and knowledge compared to those who worked underground. The “builder” of the Geghard cave had a wonderful engineering brain. He created a system of caves that intersect in two places. I think he did it on purpose, for acoustics. What tools did they work with, how did they work underground, we don’t know. Let’s suppose that the walls can be demolished with a pickaxe or a crowbar, but how did they direct it inside so that it does not touch the others, how did they measure it? They had serious knowledge, they understood well from geology what kind of rock to dig in, so that collapse does not occur.

We also have underground cult structures, which do not repeat the ones above ground. In other words, they are unique only for underground areas.

There are types of halls, we have domed caves that do not have that shape outside. Or, a church complex with 2-3 vestibules, which does not have a similar structure outside. All this is an interesting science, which is unfortunately not practiced in our country.

– When did man turn to the cave for help?, mainly in case of “escape”?

– Man was born in a cave, even our gods, Mihr, Khaldi. The Urartians even had an underground God, Ayriani. Christ was also born in a cave, right? The hero of our epic, little Mher, is sheltered in the cave until now, waiting for a just order to be established and to come out. Where are they burying us, essentially in a cave? the coffin is a cave, isn’t it? How many underground heroes do we have? All of that – fairy tales, epics, myths – contain a huge layer. So we did not go far from the caves.

– What is the peculiarity of caves?

– A fantastic and mysterious world. What happened before you? Sometimes I wonder how many people have entered this cave before me. What did they expect to enter? Did they hide from the enemy?

We should be able to develop such a policy that we exploit at least one cave every year for this purpose. You can show your culture through the cave, everything is there: both history and philosophy, how did people live there, what did they do?

To this day, Satan’s Bridge is not used. I am sure that if the state makes an effort, investors will be found. People are just afraid of bureaucracy. They want so much paper. Moreover, there is a form of examinations that no one understands what it is. Let’s say, how can you damage the cave? We say that we do not harm, we only use. They say, “Are you coming in?” Well, let’s say, don’t leave the house, don’t walk on the street, in the forest too. What are those standards? There is only one thing abroad: does it harm a person or not? And we are told that if you enter the cave, you will cause harm. Close the caves, what happened?

– Let the dust of centuries sit on it․․․

– There are thousands of such caves, the location of which we still do not know. Davrizhetsi describes an interesting cave where riches are buried. And if we take into account the fact that everything he described is true, a lot has been found, so that cave also exists, right? No one found it. And they won’t find it, maybe it has already collapsed. Our historians have left a huge amount of information. The story is so interesting that if you present it to others, they will understand what country you live in.

– In which part is that cave that they are looking for and can’t find?

– Do you want to go find it?

– Yes.

– It is in the territory of the Khosrov reserve. If we could find it, it would be wonderful.

– Is it true that in the case of caves, satellites do not work?

– No, they are underground, but those satellites can provide very interesting information about the earth’s surface. When we were exploring Magellan’s cave, it never occurred to us that we could find the hole above, from which water is being absorbed now. They saw that picture on Sputnik. The hole is 50 m in diameter and 15 meters deep, where snow accumulates in winter and rain in summer penetrates into Magellan’s cave through a crack.

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“You are the sea monster of CP, this is a political assessment.” Mesrop Manukyan, MP of the opposition “Armenia” bloc, said this today from the NA podium as a deputy, addressing Ruben Rubinyan, the only candidate for the post of NA Speaker.

We present Mesrop Manukyan’s speech in full.

“You are curious about who Mesrop Manukyan is, and I don’t know why, you remembered an episode of my biography. Mesrop Manukyan has never given up or disowned a single line of his biography, unlike the assistants and godchildren of Manvel Grigoryan who joined your ranks, who died for him one day, and came to meet you with bread the next.

Look, dear citizens, I want to understand what a change in fundamental principles iswho?  Is it among the CP members, or is this of a continuous nature? Because of the changes that took place among the people of the Communist Party who held the position of the President of the National Assembly, I want to make a little reference to understand, Mr. Rubinyan, where do you start from and where will you go? Ararat Mirzoyan used to talk about his own financial difficulties, about refusing to give a TV on credit, and today he wears a sleeveless jacket of the brand “Brunello Cucinelli” worth several million drams. In Yerevan, an apartment near the Red Cross, he buys his own castle with walls, that’s from his declaration.

You know, I don’t see a problem that a high-ranking official of the Republic of Armenia, as well as you, Mr. Rubinya, should be present, you represent the state, but the question arises as to how these changes take place. Such questions also arise in the case of Alen Simonyan. his property transactions became the subject of public discussions. One day I won’t worry, I will make two or three long movies about him, about the things added to his name and the rest of the complicated transactions. I cannot escape the impression that the same story is being repeated over and over again with the top officials of the “Civil Pact” party today.

But I won’t go too far, Mr. Rubinyan, I want to start with a few stories. Mr. Rubinyan said that he was a member of the group negotiating with Turkey from the end of 2021, while we all know that in 2022 “Armbusinessbank” will be acquired by a Swiss company, and the state will become a 25 percent shareholder. It is circulating in the press that it has something to do with Konstantin Sokolov․ today Sokolov entered our Armenian life, Armenian reality. Let me tell you an interesting fact. Today, Ruben Rubinyan’s brother is the first deputy chairman of the board of “AMIO” bank, the chief director of business development, a member of the board. There is something interesting here, isn’t there a conflict of interest that the Central Bank is a shareholder in a commercial bank? In other words, how is the Central Bank going to check this company?

But let me continue because I have a lot to say. Among others, while studying the year 2022, the hero of our previous village, Tigran Avinyan, was also not left out. The latter, it turns out, received 11 million drams and another 13 million drams from “Armenian Business Bank”. I will study in more detail.

In 2023, Mr. Rubinyan, “MTS Armenia” applies to acquire some offshore registered car dealer, sorry for my wording, because that person, let me tell you his name – Manolis Tarchanidis, a 50-year-old Cypriot who was engaged in car sales, but wanted to acquire a mobile operator company in Armenia. They refuse, they see that there are security problems.

Mr. Rubinyan, but then, when already in 2024, the company “Fedilco Group Limited” registered in Cyprus, whose beneficiary is also Konstantin Sokolov, is acquired, and let me tell you something interesting: after the transaction, your brother Levon Rubinyan, the same Levon Rubinyan, is appointed a member of the management of “Viva Armenia”. It is published on the website today. I can’t even understand it a bit: that high position in the commercial bank and that high position in “Viva Armenia”.

Next: we see that the property of “AMIO” bank is “Hrazdan Cement” factory, people. In other words, a commercial organization with state participation should be directly managed by the state. If you could take a barn door and put it there, manage it, it wouldn’t close, today it went bankrupt, and the state is involved there, because it still belongs to “AMIO” bank, where the same Levon Rubinyan is.

I will continue.

The next interesting deal that happens, dear people, is acquired by “Rostelecom”, acquired by “Viva Armenia”. Are there security issues or not, folks? In other words, it acquires two serious operators, and Levon Rubinya is in the management team of the same “Viva”.  Guys, is this normal?

The continuation. it became very well known to all of us that Sokolov was appointed as the president of the TRIPP Foundation. Folks, the same person is already in our fourth sector.

Next, mining. there is fresh information that he has acquired a stake in our mining giants.

And here comes a question of sound logic. We mentioned four most important areas, people: finance, infrastructure, mining, communication. These are areas of strategic and security significance for any state. Areas that are extremely important for Turkey in the case of Armenia, are very important for Turkey.

And here the question arises: how is it that on the one hand Sokolov, the head of the TRIPP project (when Turkey is the biggest beneficiary of these projects), and on the other hand, the brother of Ruben Rubinyan, the chief negotiator of Armenia with Turkey, are involved in all these processes?

Folks, are there strange things or not in all this?

I will continue my study, Mr. Rubinyan. The activity that I conducted in the Yerevan Council of Elders, how the city’s budget is wasted, I will also do here in the National Assembly. You referred to my gesticulation, frankly, I have no problem offending anyone. No one. If I have a problem with offending someone, I say it straight to their face, I don’t have a problem with it.

You joined your colleagues late. For three years, I said so much about Manvel Grigoryan in the town hall until they realized who was or wasn’t by his side, they took him, they filled him in the town hall and many other places that I can tell.

But I want to understand something else, Mr. Rubinyan. I talked about these big problems, but I see small favors from you. For example, your father-in-law was brought in and appointed, Hakob Haji-Hakobyan was appointed head of protocol in the National Assembly in 2022. At first glance, it’s a normal phenomenon, people, what’s wrong, our friends can work too. But here and there, that person was convicted, in fact, mainly for taking bribes from Armenian citizens living in Turkey, so that they would receive a return certificate. The link is to open information, I can provide it to you. For example, an RA citizen who gave birth in Istanbul and wants to return to Armenia.

Mr. Rubinyan, to be honest, for example, I was trying to understand where Alen Simonyan and Ararat Mirzoyan started, where they went, where they arrived. Now I can’t even show your point, and I have the impression that Alen Simonyan and Ararat Mirzoyan are small fish against you. You are the octopus of CP. I have the impression that you are a sea monster, Mr. Rubinya. Mr. Rubinyan, this is not a personal assessment of you, this is a political assessment. Mr. Rubinyan, if you are offended, I apologize, but this is a political assessment, not a personal one. I have no problem with you personally, on the contrary.

For example, I was coming along the road, there were citizens, they were talking about Vilen Gabrielyan. I said no, you can’t. Then I’ll look at his choice, if it’s my turn.

But what do I want to say, dear compatriots? The problems I listed earlier are more important.

Mr. Rubinyan, isn’t it a bit strange that in our country the telecommunications, transport sectors, TRIPP, finance, infrastructure, mining and communication, the entire base of “Vivacell”, “Rostelecom”, we don’t know who it goes to. Look at the publications of “Hetk”, look at the others… And here, in my opinion, there are simply no strange or accidental coincidences, Mr. Rubinyan.

And let me repeat to you once again, Mesrop Manukyan did not give up any line of his biography in his life, and the change in his life happened when he was born, he was the son of the head of ВОДХОЗ, his life changed when he graduated from school with a medal, when he graduated from the institute with honors, when he had a scientific degree, when he was a lecturer at a university, when he was a referent of the president of the National Assembly… And I will continue like that. At the end, I will add, as it is said in the famous movie, I will remind you, slightly changing the form: “Ashugh Fatula, you did not read well”.

The details are in the 168TV video.

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On July 31, the Prosecutor’s Office reported that “within the framework of the confiscation of property of illegal origin, based on the petition of the General Prosecutor’s Office, the shares of the company “Yerevan “Ararat” Cognac-Wine-Vodka Combine” BB company owned by businessman Gagik Tsarukyan, by the decision of the Anti-Corruption Court surrendered to the administration and preservation of the Republic of Armenia”.

After Gagik Tsarukyan was detained for two months, the management and custody of the shares of the “Araratcement” PB company belonging to his family was also handed over to the RA government. They have already appointed a temporary manager there, who is the former assistant of Nikol Pashinyan, Davit Gevorgyan.

Belonging to Gagik Tsarukyan’s family “Multi Wellness” Yerevan Municipality also took over the gym.

Economist Hrayr Kamendatyan speaking about these actions of the authorities towards business, he said, in Armenia, major investments go to the mining industry. Investments in mining come with shady deals, so those investors don’t care if they’re depriving someone in that country or not.

“Foreign investors go to the given country with special treatment, they have a huge profit volume, which is used by some of the state officials of the given country.

No capitalist can stand up and defend the law for another capitalist or for reasons of justice. Small investments that are made, for example, in a small kiosk or building, we can not discuss in general, they are not big investments.

This whole mess related to Gagik Tsarukyan’s property has an absolutely political nature, the government does not even hide this. There is one, isn’t there, wearing the hat of Latin American dictators, he clearly said: “I will make Gagik Tsarukyan a bum”, I will do this, I will do that”, I don’t want to repeat his vocabulary. Now he is trying to go that way.” of 168.am said Hrayr Kamendatyan in a conversation with

According to him, Nikol Pashinyan is trying to please some lumpen masses by depriving Gagik Tsarukyan. It is obvious that he rigged the elections and lacks legitimacy, so he is trying to fill that lack by satisfying the feelings of the lumpen massa.

Nikol Pashinyan wants to show that mass that, look, I knocked the rich man to the ground, tied his hands and feet. All this is shameless, but they should remember that nothing is eternal, and I am sure that this illegal process, political direction will get its answer after the change of power.

This cynicism and provincial revenge will be the basis for the prosecution of the head of the Criminal Investigation Department, the General Prosecutor, and all the prosecutors involved in these cases. After those trials, they will be dispossessed, because they will have to answer for this parade of illegalities with their property,” added the economist.

Hrayr Kamendatyan also emphasized that, of course, this illegal behavior of the authorities with business can cause concerns for people who want to establish a certain business in Armenia, but when the capital has a 10 percent income, it starts to become active, at 20, it becomes daring, at 100, it is ready for any crime.

“Today, many people do not notice that the economic situation is getting worse. The current authorities thought that along with the worsening of the economic situation, the budget revenues will decrease, they will also be cut at some point. They imagine a dictatorial solution: they will confiscate the economic units and recognize them as a superior interest. Then they will sell in a shadowy way, this sale can be among themselves, to already formed capitalist groups, they will also try to sell to the public, making the public a “stakeholder” in these crimes, in order to somehow fill the budget.

All this is condemned, because the analyzes have been done, the budget revenues will decrease, and the government will sit on the seat of impotence,” emphasized Hrayr Kamendatyan.

Let’s remind that PAP leader Gagik Tsarukyan was detained for two months on July 7, according to the report circulated by the Central Committee, on charges of large-scale fraud and money laundering.

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This spring, at the end of March, Anna Hakobyan RA People’s Artist, Sculptor Levon Tokmajyan performed the role of a native woman in the studio, she received the invitation from the sculptor.

of 168.am in a conversation with Levon Tokmajyan said that he gave Anna Hakobyan the picture that he made remotely and depicted.

“I was criticized a lot that I was always in the opposition, so how did it happen that I portrayed Anna Hakobyan? Well, I said, ‘You know what? I’m non-partisan, I’m a free artist, I can walk down the street, see a beautiful woman and paint, this is a natural thing, right?’ I took a picture of Anna Hakobyan’s face, it seemed like she was smiling, I don’t know if it’s like that in reality or not. That’s why I painted him, I invited him to paint with me through his assistant, he accepted my offer.

I had previously drawn him from memory, I told him to make a surprise. Anna Hakobyan saw the picture and said: This is me, I see myself in this picture. I also painted his assistant and gave those pictures to them,” the sculptor mentioned.

According to him, after that he met with Anna Hakobyan once more, because he made a request to her in connection with Hovhannes Chekijian.

“In two years it will be Hovhannes Chekijian’s 100th birthday. I sang in the National Academic Choir for 15 years. For me, Chekijian is a divine person who has given me many great creative opportunities. For example, there are sculptors to whom I say: your sculptures lack song, I have learned it.

On the occasion of Hovhannes Chekijian’s 100th birthday, I want to place my sculpture on Pushkin Street in Yerevan, where the choir’s office is located. I asked Anna Hakobyan to give me the opportunity to realize my idea on the maestro’s 100th birthday. Imagine the sculpture: Chekijian gives it size, and in the distance is the choir. Anna Hakobyan said that she would help, we drafted the letter and sent it to the Ministry of Education and Culture.

I wrote in the letter that I do not want a fee, only to help with general expenses, only the bronze master should be paid. They answered me that they were happy that I was going to meet such a great grateful person. In short, it was a letter reminiscent of a show, but there was no mention of expenses. How can I do this, since I don’t have a bronze foundry?

When the choir was renamed after Hovhannes Chekijian, they also sent me an invitation, I went, Nikol Pashinyan and the minister of KGSM were there, I accepted the invitation, I thought that maybe Anna Hakobyan had sent it.

Anna Hakobyan inquired what happened to my letter, I replied that I was surprised that she was asking me. I said, I will send the letter to him, joking that we will put it on the ground and all of us will dance kochari next to it. He laughed and said: send it. That won’t solve the problem, anyway,” emphasized Levon Tokmajyan.

According to the sculptor, he sent the answer to the letter to Anna Hakobyan, but there was no response. He says that he cannot call every day and ask what happened to the reply to the letter. The sculpture is not for him, but for Yerevan, for the nation, for Hovhannes Chekijian.

“No matter what, I’m going to make that sculpture, but I don’t know how I’m going to do it with the bronze casting costs.

Now I have so much disappointment, I have been lied to all the time, and I have been so disappointed with the officials that they will hardly encourage me to take their picture,” emphasized Levon Tokmajyan.

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“Pressing”in the program Former Prime Minister of RA (1992-93), former Speaker of RA National Assembly (NA) Khosrov Harutyunyan, also touched on Armenia-Russia relations.

“Why is the nature of Russia-Armenia relations strategic? Because the security challenges for our two states are the same: Turkey and Azerbaijan, no matter how much they are sily-billy with Turkey now. Relationships can go up and down at some point, but we both understand that we need each other. In 30 years, however, there has been no sincere conversation between us and Russia. That is why Russia considers that they need us more than we need them, and consider Armenia as an outpost.

We are facing the inevitable imperative to redefine Armenian-Russian relations,” said the former Prime Minister of Armenia.

According to the politician, you should talk to each other in a manly manner. It is necessary to understand that Russia will not be lost, it will solve its problems, we will be lost.

“I say to my Russian colleagues, it seems to you that your strategic defeat will start from Ukraine, but you are terribly mistaken. it will start from Armenia,” noted Khosrov Harutyunyan.

According to the latter: there is a reason why the Turks do not enter Syunik, the 102nd military base in Gyumri. In other cases, Turkey entered wherever it wanted: Syria, Libya, other places.

“The Turks know that by entering Syunik, they will immediately hit Russia’s strategic interests with the resulting consequencesKhosrov Harutyunyan mentioned.

Details in the video.

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The guest of Satik Seyranyan in the program “Lessons” is Davit Ghazinyan, the former director of “Electric Networks of Armenia” CJSC, member of the board of the “Strong Armenia” party, deputy of the “Strong Armenia” faction of the National Assembly.

On July 24, the anti-corruption court abolished the “detention” measure of Davit Ghazinyan, elected deputy of the “Strong Armenia” party alliance. His lawyers claimed in the court that Ghazinyan was given the mandate of a deputy on July 21, therefore he has the status of a deputy and is inviolable. Only the National Assembly can deprive him of his immunity. The prosecutor objected and requested not to abolish the preventive measure, but to replace it with a bail of 1 billion drams.

Davit Ghazinyan was released from the courtroom.

Let us remind that in 2026 on June 17, the Central Electoral Commission, in a closed session, examined and approved the request of the prosecutor’s office to initiate criminal proceedings against Davit Ghazinyan. The Prosecutor’s Office also filed a motion to grant consent to deprivation of liberty, which was also granted. The court decided to detain Davit Ghazinyan for 2 months. The accusation is related to the recording published by the Anti-Corruption Committee, where it is said that Davit Ghazinyan was preparing to give an alleged election bribe of 1.4 million drams. 

Key takeaways from the interview are below.

• You noticed correctly. back in 2025, when the campaign against Samvel Karapetyan was started by the authorities, the first target was the HEC, and therefore also my person, for two purposes. First, they tried to present Samvel Karapetyan as a “robber” character, which, of course, did not work, and second, they tried to provide an administrative resource for themselves. I repeat, creating an image of a robber for them simply did not work. Everyone saw what was happening. 

• Whoever tries to speak directly, not to be afraid of their persecution, to have radical oppositional views, according to the logic of these authorities, must be punished.

• I am sure that they carefully studied my work at the National Academy of Sciences. I am sure that they tried to sew and make something using all possible permissible and non-permissible methods, but they did not succeed. An opportunity arose for them: the article on the alleged preparation of election bribery was placed on me. It’s ridiculous, literally, because there was no substance there. That’s why I announced in court that it is a pity that due to the status of a deputy, I have to be released from custody. 

• Very briefly, let me say this, there is life even in the isolation cell of the National Security Service, let no one be afraid. It is true that compared to other penitentiary institutions, it is a stricter regime. There is no opportunity to communicate with each other, to see each other, you cannot see anyone. I don’t want to say too much, it’s more difficult conditions, but when you know that you are right, when you know that you are clean before God, and most importantly, when you know why you are suffering all this, believe me, it is quite easy, there is no problem. 

• The only tool they have is to intimidate by sitting down. our leader, Samvel Karapetyan, showed his willpower by sitting in those conditions for 6 or more months, and for 6 or more months under house arrest, we cannot be intimidated by that. So, I advise you not to be afraid.

• The trial is already underway, I think there is no pre-trial secret as such, I will try to present the essence of the “case”…

During the detention session, I directly declare that I was in the pre-election or alliance headquarters of those parties 3-4 times during that period. I even ask them to check when I was at that headquarters through the telephone billing system. I request and demand that they publish it. After all, if the eavesdropping was done there, if I was there, then it is assumed that I must have said something. I say bring what I have spoken there, you say I have been there, don’t you? Naturally, it is rejected. De-contextualized, edited conversations were presented. There is no justification or proof that I gave money. a case was initiated based on oral conversations only.

When I ask, well, to whom, according to you, I gave that money, does he himself say that I gave it, they say “no”. I ask, “Where did I give it?” They say, “It is not yet clear.” I ask, “and when did I give it?”, they say, “it hasn’t been determined yet.” Then they say: “You had some problems, it didn’t work out, the money came back to you”, I say: “Okay, so we didn’t give it?” They say, “Ah, well, that’s the preparation.” I say, “OK, and through whom was it given directly or in some way?”, they say, “It is not clear.” I say, “When did they give it back?” They say, “It’s not clear.” I say, “Where did they give it back?” They say, “It’s not clear.”

In other words, they took the housekeeper’s and mother’s phone conversations, connected them, tried to get into people’s private lives, brought those internal personal relationships into the public arena and tried to stick something. At least it’s funny. That is why we filed an appeal, which, of course, the Court of Appeals would not satisfy.

• When the lawyers in the court ask the investigator and the prosecutor whether you interrogated Davit Ghazinyan, why didn’t you interrogate them, they answer: “He didn’t give a statement during the arrest, we thought he didn’t need to.” Confrontations, absolutely no action was taken. we demanded a confrontation, we demanded an active investigation, but absolutely nothing was done. It was clear that the problem was just to keep me there. 

• The actions of the prosecutor’s office have no logic for a long time. 

• I would like to mention a very important fact. On June 5, they came to our house with a search warrant. My apartment, unlike Narek Karapetyan’s, was searched once, not several times. In other words, I have been aware of what they want to do since June 5, when the search decision was issued. The famous video-recording is published on June 6, but I am arrested on June 17. I was free for 12 days, I did not have any restraining order, I did not have any status: neither witness nor accused․․․ And after that, among the grounds for arrest, they mentioned obstructing the preliminary investigation, the risks of escaping and committing a new crime… I repeat: For 12 days, I waited every day for them to come after me… I even had to send my son to school, one of my friends advised me: “don’t come to the airport, they will suddenly think you are running away, they will organize a show”… Honestly, I didn’t go to the airport to make a show or run away… 

What about? to the preliminary investigation  to obstruct․ when ask ենք՝ “Okay, 12 day had, do you have what?–that given, that Davit Ghazinyan obstruct is or to try is obstruct, what?–that of one on affect”, says են՝ “no”. Asking ենք՝ “From where?” is your approx that the opinion, that there is risk, or kxnothing”․ there is none answer, they say, “we have like this assumption, that can is to hinder”. Այսինքն՝ detention grounds, as such, in general there were none. 

• The height of meanness. I am sure that the relevant bodies knew very well that Narek Karapetyan’s 10-year-old child was born on that day, and they entered the search. Moreover, they knew very well that they could not find anything with the search, because it did not happen. What’s the point of doing a search a third time… 

This small group has a property: how many that themselves cowardly are, scared are from sitting, from persecution and: etc, it seems to them that others are also afraid. Before the sitting of the National Assembly, they are trying to intimidate once more… I think that is the goal. 

• The tool to catch and sit does not work anymore. Now let’s say me that second times they took sit downthey did, is something going to change, or that Samvel Karapetyan has been detained for more than a year, has something changed in his positions… Absolutely. And that is exactly what upsets the authorities. They are like that, they think that the other person should be like that too. The facade does not break, they get out of bed. 

• We all have seen both victories and defeats in life. I have never seen such a “winner” anywhere. If this government considers itself the winner, then the winner is not in such a nervous state of mind. If you won, what is your problem? If you won, why are you arresting everyone one by one? 

• They are nervous because they have obligations to their “brothers”, Azerbaijan and Turkey, and they convinced the Europeans that they would have a constitutional majority, but they did not receive so many votes. 

On the night of the elections, at 2 o’clock, Pashinyan’s announcement was addressed to Azerbaijan, Turkey, and the European Union: “I have won.” I think it was for outside՝ be calm… But in this case, he already has a very serious dependence on them, where he cannot talk to them, as a winner, as equals. And this will lead to constant concessions from our country… Azerbaijan is already very strict in its demands regarding RA Constitutional amendments, territorial concessions… Right after the elections, Azerbaijan intensified its rhetoric because they understand that their protégé has a problem… 

• To tell the truth, after leaving the isolation cell, I learned about the persecution of my father and his removal from YSU. my father forbade anyone to talk about it, given that I was there. It is a very painful topic for me. in a normal Armenian family there is a setting, and I have always lived like that․ Do what you want with me, but when it comes to my family members, I have nothing to talk to them about.

In other words, my father, who was admitted to the faculty of law of Yerevan State University in 1972, has been working there since 1977 (that is, he has worked there all his life in various positions). Let me reveal a little secret. Even in 2024, the question of my father’s re-election was discussed at the meeting of the Security Council, although my father did not want to be re-elected, when my father spoke at home, he said, “that’s enough, we must give room to young people”… 

This recent announcement by YSU that he, as a main employee, as a lecturer, will not be extended his contract from September 1 is simply shameful… By the way, last year, if I’m not mistaken, my father was awarded the title of honorary professor. I was not engaged in active politics at that time, my brother was no longer in the National Assembly, according to them, everything was calm, and they gave me the title of honorary professor from the university itself… It’s not my father, that’s why I’m saying it, but to treat that kind of person, in the true sense of the word, those “manclavics”… who weren’t even born when that person was there. They, that rector and the rest, were nobody all together… I don’t have any problem with them in the sense that they are nothing, they are not decisive, they don’t have their own “I”. They could not under any circumstances say: “OK, we did this, we did that, but this person is not allowed, it is not right to do such a thing.” So, it is a problem of one person, I consider it a consequence of my political activity, a sanction. Their move is just the height of immorality… According to their notice, he will no longer teach at the university from September 1.

There are all legal ways, of course, we will fight against it. They don’t understand what family is, they don’t understand what it means to try to oppress a person through family. It is the peak of immorality. It’s not surprising to me, they are. I repeat, I am ready to take everything in our direct fight, it is absolutely zero for me՝ they took me, made me sit down, tried to punish me, oppress me (of course, it didn’t work), it’s not a problem, but these persecutions related to family members… I will never forgive that one. 

• I ask a direct question to the government․ if you have found out that there were cases of extravagance (which we do not rule out, we have also discovered a lot, etc.), where are the criminal cases you initiated? Who is imprisoned by it, is there an accused? The same thing is declared over and over without proof.

Let’s remind that the temporary manager of the National Economic and Social Committee, Romanos Petrosyan from the Communist Party of Ukraine, announced. “Over the course of a year of the temporary administration, the total number of dismissals in the National Economic and Social Committee was more than 1,150 people, of which 700 employees were dismissed due to various violations (mostly additions/under-registrations). About 30 criminal proceedings have been initiated based on the facts of the discovered violations. there are many arrestees and arrest warrants.”

• He is lying. I directly declare that he is lying because, if I’m not mistaken, the National Security Agency has 2,000 inspectors. If 700 employees (I say as a material manager, who are related to kilowatts) are released, there will be no inventory manager there. It is the opposite․ of it big part their people to accommodate for freed people are Այսինքն՝ people released and: their to bring their own to work.

In this case, it is only an hour’s work to reveal the application. You check, you find the addendum, the internal security questions the inspector, finds out the circumstances of the case, you try to determine quantitatively whether the chief can have a connection or not, based on the given testimony, you make a conclusion: you remove the person, punish him, etc. What do you study for a year? It’s been a year since you tried to convince people to give my name, but they don’t? Where are those 30 cases you mentioned, why aren’t they in the court already, why don’t we have a single decision, where it is mentioned that so-and-so testified that Davit Ghazinyan told him to “go and make an addition” or “make an under-registration?”

• The reason for widespread power outages. no investment is made, they take away the loan, they close it, they say “I am a strong boy”.

• The chairman of this same Public Services Regulatory Commission (PSRC) directly told me that there is no block like yours. Both the struggle of your block to solve the problems and everything is going very well, even…

• Do you have the manliness (I’m telling you directly) – publish with names, time, reports, how many people were released just to make a specific addition.

• This government offered a ridiculous sum of 380,000 dollars to the owners, Samvel Karapetyan, in order to acquire the HEC. 

• Samvel Karapetyan did not take more than 70 billion of his dividend from HETC, because the moment he took it, the company would have gone bankrupt. He could not afford such a thing. If Samvel Karapetyan took his dividends, the investments that were made during these years would not have been made. Only a very small percentage was taken. 

• Let an international organization be invited to evaluate the real value of the HEC. There is no evaluation company in Armenia that can withstand the pressure of the authorities and not do what they say. Let any reputable international company make an impartial assessment and tell the exact price. They are afraid of it, because it will be up to 1 billion dollars (from 750-800 million to 1 billion), they know it very well. 

• These authorities have no morality, no red lines.

• I will also refer to those who follow the instructions of the authorities․․․ Not every instruction, every order must be fulfilled or can be fulfilled. 10-15 people tried to lay Gagik Tsarukyan on the ground, the video shows two people hitting him on the leg, throwing him on the ground… Do you feel good about that? You saw, Tsarukyan was standing with a smile on his face… 

I see on the Internet, some people say: why didn’t they take Samvel Karapetyan like that? I must say, when Samvel Karapetyan was arrested, they tried to make such a show, but they just couldn’t, because Samvel Karapetyan was at home, we were all there with his supporters, his friends. They wanted to do it, but we stood next to him all night, we wouldn’t let them…

• I express my disagreement, as a person, as a citizen, with the policy pursued by Russia in the sense that, not from the point of view of their interests, but as an Armenian, I say that it was not worth putting the citizen of Armenia in this situation because of one person. 

• It is wrong to blame Russia, France, the USA or Europe in general for allegedly not doing something for us. Our people are not aware of the reality that is being hidden from them. Nobody publishes the behind-the-scenes conversations and negotiations, we don’t know the whole truth. Putin cannot publish, for example, in 2020. In October, before stopping the 44-day war, what was discussed with the RA authorities? Even today, that cease-fire is presented as if Putin is to blame for everything. or “we were doing everything well, but suddenly Putin decided to apply sanctions against Armenia, and Russia is bad”. Russia says: if you go to the European Union, there is no problem, it is your decision, but stand by your decision. I, for example, why not, I would also welcome the policy pursued by the authorities, if they would clearly say “no” to Russia and at the same time give our people an alternative. In other words, this is exactly the lie and fake․ they say: “No, the EAEU should not exist, let it be destroyed.” First of all, this is funny, because in the structure of EAEU we are mainly in the role of consumer. Second, you have no choice․ even your beloved Turkey does not have the resources that can help you. And most importantly, Turkey conducts its policy through Azerbaijan, they won’t come with tanks, but with cars, as Aliyev stated. 

• We have neighboring Iran, which showed the whole world what nation, state and unity mean. It was very exciting for me, and I watched with sincere envy when they said, “Let’s hit your bridges, your infrastructure,” and millions of people went and stood on the bridges.

• The President of Iran thanked the authorities of Armenia during the war and, by the way, thanked the people of Armenia much more in the footnotes. Iranians have seen that the people of Armenia are sincerely on their side, regardless of whether the CP is the government or someone else (it’s not about the authorities). 

Now the issue has reached the railway․ Pashinyan announces that the management of the Armenian railway will be taken back by the Russian side, stating that there is no alternative. It has been taking steps in this direction for a long time, and Russia replies that in that case, Armenia should compensate all the investments and works done.

• I don’t think that they will go all the way in the issue of the railway. In my opinion, everything is done just for talk and communication․ they are trying to squeeze a little to get their place in Russia, so that they can finally sit down and talk. According to me, this is the whole purpose. 

• If you have made such a decision, you should speak honestly with the people. It is necessary to say: “Dear people, we will remain hungry, if we break away from Russia, you will not be able to sell your agricultural products, flowers and other products.” It is necessary to be honest (which I do not believe in the case of these authorities) and openly say what the situation is so that the final decision is made by the people. 

• Yes, we can also face an energy crisis. Yes, to a certain extent we are self-sufficient thanks to the solar plants, but their volume is not sufficient at night, because we do not have accumulators that will store the daytime energy for the night. 

• The chairman of the Public Services Regulatory Commission (PSRC) has already announced that in case of an increase in the price of gas, the electricity tariff will definitely be revised as well. Regardless of the price of gas, I am sure that electricity will become more expensive. And if the price of gas increases, you can imagine what will happen in our country. 

• The ruling political force declares that the electricity tariff in Armenia is one of the highest compared to the former Soviet countries. Okay, so who do you blame for this? The Public Services Regulatory Commission sets the tariff, that is, the state is the regulator, and when the authorities announce that the electricity tariff is the highest in Armenia, the question arises: did Samvel Karapetyan decide the price of 1 kilowatt of electricity in Armenia? It’s up to you, oh՞who do you blame 

• 12.7 billion drams is planned as another financial income for the nuclear power plant, from where, God knows?

They planned 12 billion drams in order to keep the tariff at zero, neither increasing nor decreasing. I am probably asking these authorities for the tenth time: explain, from which part of the nuclear power plant will the other financial income of those 12 billion be generated. In my personal opinion, that number was just set from somewhere in order to control the price increase. And in this case, if I am not mistaken, the tariff should be revised in November. I have a belief, which even the chairman of the commission did not rule out, that it will rise, regardless of the price of gas.

• Samvel Karapetyan directly stated. “With my efforts, I did not increase the price for 10 years, from 2015 to 2025, and I promise not to increase the price for another 10 years, regardless of gas, regardless of what happens in the world. Brothers, I will bring money from my pocket, I will invest it, but I will not increase the price”, as it was until now. Now, because of the policy of these authorities, no matter what happens, there is already a problem, because you cannot keep it forever. It doesn’t matter if you make it more expensive or if you take money from another place and subsidize it, it doesn’t matter, one day our people will pay that money. 

Wouldn’t what Samvel Karapetyan said, which was true and would continue to be true, work? It wasn’t going to be expensive, but you took a different course because of your cynicism. The man simply defended the Church and said: “Enough, stop, stop, you have already reached the red lines.” 

• As for Narek Karapetyan’s case, the National Assembly will try to deprive him of his immunity. Let the General Prosecutor’s Office come, if they want to be an object of ridicule and laughter, please let them come. If I’m not mistaken, the name “Narek” is mentioned only once in that multi-volume work, and it turns out that it is not about Narek. 

• We will absolutely not enter into the agenda of the authorities in the National Assembly. First, we are sure that this National Assembly will not go all the way with this government, and secondly, we will show the people the most shameful actions they have taken. Our power resource had no opposition. 

• If the authorities behave normally in the National Assembly, there will be a normal attitude, and if there is a different attitude, they will receive ten times more. It seems to me that you understand what it is about. 

• I am not going to befriend or have any relationship with anyone there. We are not going to use the people’s vote for street fights or other similar measures. We have a very big responsibility. We have a lot of work to do, and a responsibility to explain everything to the people without getting tired, also by carrying out work in the places. 

• Samvel Karapetyan never sought to come to power by subjecting the country to shocks. He loves our country so much that he considers coming to power through upheavals inadmissible. 

• On August 7, we will all be next to His Holiness the Patriarch, the Church.