President Of Azerbaijan Makes Contradicting Statements

PRESIDENT OF AZERBAIJAN MAKES CONTRADICTING STATEMENTS

Panorama.am
16:55 18/10/06

The Azeri President Ilham Aliev made two contradicting statements in
the course of three days. He said, "I have assigned the government and
patriots of Azerbaijan to fight against Armenia in all fronts until
they leave our territory. When they do so, our relations will come back
to normal again and we can live side by side like neighbors." Shortly
after this statement, Aliev said, "Azerbaijan has friendly relations
with all states in the region and with its neighbors."

Aliev made the address to the government of Azerbaijan and Azeri
patriots in an interview to Al-Djazura, an Arab TV station, speaking,
in fact, to mainly Muslim community. Aliev also claimed that Yerevan
conducts "policy of aggression to its neighbors." Azerbaijan
probably forgets that she is making militaristic statements
herself.

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CHAIR MAN OF THE ARMENIAN LIBERAL DEMOCRATIC PARTY’S CENTRAL COMMITTEE
VISITS HIS HOLINESS

The chairman of the Armenian Liberal Democratic Party’s Central Committee,
Mr. Mike Kharabian, visited His Holiness Aram I on October 16 along with the
chairman of the party’s committee in Lebanon, Mr. Babayan.

The party leader and His Holiness discussed various issues related to
Armenia and the Diaspora and their mutual relations, particularly in light
of the third Armenia-Diaspora conference convened recently in Yerevan.

The Catholicos stressed the importance of the united approach by the three
Armenian political parties towards the recognition of the Armenian Genocide.

He expressed satisfaction for the efforts exerted to this effect until now.

He also emphasized the importance of creating harmony inside Armenian
communities and assembling around pan national values and concern.

Mr. Kharabian affirmed the readiness of the Armenian Liberal Democratic
Party to contribute to the achievement of Armenian national goals, the
strengthening of Armenia and Armenian national unity.

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ANKARA: Danone-Turkey Launches Signature Campaign To Protest Armenia

DANONE-TURKEY LAUNCHES SIGNATURE CAMPAIGN TO PROTEST ARMENIAN BILL

Zaman , Turkey
Oct 17 2006

French foods group Danone, which is one of the most well-known French
brands, will send letters to the members of the French Senate to
prevent the Armenian bill from becoming law.

Danone Turkey Director Serpil Timuray has said, "We are also against
the adoption of such a bill."

A total of 23,000 people are expected to sign the letter by Nov. 30,
which bears the emblem of the "Danone Turkey Family."

There will be a list of the 700 employees and 15,000 farmers from
whom Danone buys milk along with its 600 branches across the country
below the letter.

Timuray said that they printed 100,000 petition letters adding,
"We expect our employees to sign the petition."

The director remarked that they would submit the petitions to the
French Senate and she added that Danone Executive Manager Franc Riboud
sent a letter to the French Parliamentary President before Oct. 12
in which he explained the dangers of adopting the Armenian bill.

According to data provided by the company, Danone has a total of 400
million New Turkish Liras (YTL) invested in Turkey.

Danone managers in France were informed about the campaign, said
Timuray, adding that the managers were respectful to our beliefs and
agree with our civil action.

Timuray explained that Danone was a company operating in 32
countries across the world which it gives importance to the regional
sensitivities.

She expressed that there would be no change in their investment plans
and they would not revise their target of becoming a market leader.

Answering questions from members of the press, Timuray said that
there had been no decline in sales up until now.

In answer to another question, Timuray remarked that they may place
advertisements in French newspapers about the subject.

"Different reactions may come from society, but the important thing
is to do so in a reasonable way," said Timuray when asked about the
boycott of French goods.

Le Genocide Armenien Doit Etre Reconnu

LE GENOCIDE ARMENIEN DOIT ETRE RECONNU

Le Temps, Suisse
16 octobre 2006

Decidement, cette annee, la Turquie et le genocide armenien sont a
l’affiche. Rappelez-vous, en mars dernier des manifestations turques
negationnistes avaient lieu a Berlin et a Lyon. Par la suite, un
historien turc est poursuivi en Suisse pour negationnisme. Recemment,
le conseiller federal Christoph Blocher, representant la Suisse en
Turquie, critique les poursuites penales engagees contre cet historien
et la loi (article 261 bis, alinea 4 du Code penal suisse) qui a pour
but de proteger les victimes de discrimination raciale ou religieuse.

Imaginez-vous en 1915, a Izmir, ville situee au bord de l’Euphrate
investie par l’armee turque. Imaginez vos familles disseminees: vos
mères noyees, vos soeurs violees, vos cousines enceintes eventrees…

Imaginez vos pères et grands-pères, emmenes de force pour une marche
au bout de laquelle il n’y a que la mort. Imaginez des enfants dans
des eglises en feu.

Comment cette loi precitee pourrait-elle etre alors a l’origine
d’une atteinte a la liberte d’expression, comme l’a declare Monsieur
Blocher? Alors que ces Armeniens-la n’ont pas beneficie du droit
de vivre… Qui pourrait mieux qu’une loi defendre les droits des
descendants des familles armeniennes?

Aujourd’hui, Monsieur Blocher desire garder de bons rapports avec
son homologue turc pour preserver un commerce qui pourrait etre
florissant. Quel prix a payer pour la dignite humaine! Presqu’un siècle
après les evenements, il est vraiment souhaitable que le genocide
armenien soit reconnu. A mon sens, il ne s’agit pas de s’immiscer dans
l’histoire de la Turquie mais de retablir une injustice, de creer de
nouvelles relations entre ce pays et l’Armenie. […]

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ANKARA: Thinking More Loudly On Turkey’s EU Bid

THINKING MORE LOUDLY ON TURKEY’S EU BID
Barin Kayaoglu

Journal of Turkish Weekly
Oct 16 2006

Last week I discussed that while Europeans might be deliberately
unaware of the developments in Turkey that support for European Union
membership was dwindling, I was still optimistic about Turkey’s future
with the EU. The reasons for Turkish skepticism, as was argued, were
the EU’s reluctance to engage Turkey in an honest fashion and some
members’ demands that had nothing to do with standard membership
negotiations. The French parliament’s vote last week that makes
the denial of the Armenian "Genocide" illegal and Dutch political
parties’ exertion of pressure on candidates of Turkish origins to
accept Armenian allegations as facts or face expulsion from electoral
lists has given me more than sufficient proof to speak out against
my country’s ill-fated EU venture.

What is Europe Trying to Do? What Should Turkey Do?

Last week’s vote in the French parliament is indicative that the EU
is perfectly comfortable and compatible with the curbing of freedom
of expression and throwing anyone to jail for non-conformism. The
Netherlands, which until recently prided itself for being one of the
most liberal countries in the world, is now forcing candidates of
Turkish origins to take what can only be parallel to the "loyalty
oaths" of the McCarthy era in the United States in the 1950s.

To give some context, the McCarthy era denotes that part of American
political history when Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy of Wisconsin
declared in February 1950 that he had a list of Communists who
worked in the U.S. government. With concern over Communist "gains"
in Eastern Europe, China, Korea, and Southeast Asia growing in the
United States, McCarthy began investigations in Congress where he
bullied and psychologically tortured people on flimsy evidence for
being Communists. Many lives were shattered while the investigations
snowballed without recourse to even the basic tenets of law. The
craze went on for nearly three years until the Senate realized that
what was at stake was not Communist infiltration but the destruction
of the basics of American democracy.

Today, France and the Netherlands are doing exactly the same thing.

By giving credence to Armenian allegations and shutting out all
legitimate avenues for a discussion, Europe is destroying freedom of
expression, supposedly one of its founding principles.

It is perfectly possible that our Armenian friends might be right
and we Turks might be wrong, although I believe that this is not the
case. We can talk about mutual responsibility on the part of both Turks
and Armenians, but an Armenian genocide is too far fetched a claim. On
the other hand, by barring meaningful discussion over the events at
the turn of the twentieth century, Europeans are essentially weakening
Armenian claims because only lies need coercive persuasion. The truth
is always strong enough to stand the challenge.

Some might argue that the EU is an organization of twenty-five
countries and that French and Dutch inelegance does not represent
the European project. This is superficially an acceptable statement
yet does not comport with the lessons of the past and the prospects
of the future. For quite a while, Turkey has been reprimanded
in EU circles like a petulant child: "Recognize Greek Cyprus,
solve the Cyprus conflict, recognize Armenian arguments, lower
your self-esteem." Unfortunately, whenever Turkey tries to defend
its position and to at least reach some common ground with the EU,
its attempts have been rebuffed: The EU’s budget to manage the aid
to be given to Turkey during the accession negotiations is still not
in existence; none of the promised financial aid has been sent to the
Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus since the referendum on the UN plan
in 2004; and Turkey’s overtures for reviving the process to resolve the
Cyprus question have been met with European countries’ indifference.

Turkey does not need to lower its expectations from the future for
this hypocrisy. Its way of handling bad novelists on untenable charges
is already causing the country needless headaches while paving the
way for those untalented novelists to get international acclaim and
to even become Nobel laureates (I am seriously considering to write
a novel that is also totally unreadable in Turkish yet gives a very
"nostalgic" taste of "the East" in foreign languages). What Turkey
needs to do is exactly the opposite of what it is doing now: lift the
limits on freedom of expression (especially the "elastic" clauses
of article 301 of the penal code) in the widest possible sense and
withdraw from the accession negotiations if not from candidacy.

The Need to Continue Domestic Reforms More Robustly in Turkey

It might appear as if Turkey’s withdrawal from negotiating with the
EU might cause domestic reforms to come to a standstill. In reality,
what would happen from withdrawal is the exact opposite of this
speculation. Until recently, integration with Europe was one of the
conducive elements for domestic reform in Turkey. Many unacceptable
programs were swallowed by the Turkish people for EU membership. EU
membership meant a better future.

But that was the time when support for membership was quite high.

That is not the case anymore. With Turkish people becoming increasingly
more hostile with the EU’s ambivalence and lack of sincerity, it is
probably sensible to give up on the EU bid for the sake of greater
levels of democratization and prosperity. Any reform attempts from
now on that are initiated to ensure the continuation of Turkey’s
candidacy will run into stiff popular opposition in Turkey.

Insisting on such a course can only be a recipe for failure.

Turkish people would be more willing to accept the tough choices
ahead of them only if they are not made under the coercion of the EU.

Just yesterday, the president of the EU Commission, Mr. Jose Manuel
Barroso, declared that he was worried over Turkey because "the rhythm
of the reforms" had slowed down.[i] What Mr. Barroso fails to admit
is that the precise reason for Turkish reluctance in pushing further
reforms is the lack of genuine engagement on the part of the EU.

Without inducement, any meaningful reform attempt would fail.

Counterintuitively, it is more sensible to hold back reforms while
waiting for an EU impetus or completely disregarding the EU and
vigorously pushing for more reforms.

"Getting Angry with the Infidel, Breaking the Fast During Ramadan"

A Turkish proverb advises one not to "get angry with the infidel"
and prematurely break one’s fast during Ramadan. Turkey must be
prudent to follow this advice. Last week’s circus in France and
the Netherlands was accompanied by the appearance of strange bills
in the Turkish parliament that would make it a crime to deny that
the French committed genocide in Algeria in the 1950s. Precisely to
have the moral upper hand over the French, the Turkish parliament
should take this opportunity to resoundingly defeat the bill and
hence demonstrate that freedom of expression, even when defending a
lie that the French proudly brought "civilization" to Algeria and not
death and destruction, must be allowed. Only lies need dictation. The
truth is always strong enough to stand the challenge.

Another important thing to point out is that commercial boycotting of
French firms, especially those that are already invested in Turkey,
is a bad idea. The liberal market economy has a logic of its own that
is more or less independent from political considerations. While
French firms that bid in Turkish defense contracts can be easily –
and should be – shut out, those companies such as Renault, Danone,
and Carrefour that provide employment to Turkish workers and pay taxes
to the Turkish government must not be punished. Punishing them would
be punishing Turkish labor. All French firms that want to invest in
Turkey should be welcomed; that would set an even better example to
attract direct foreign investments from elsewhere.

Arrogance or Realism?

Withdrawing from the EU should not mean adapting a hostile stance
against Europe. On the contrary, Turkey can really be Europeanized by
staying out of the EU. At the moment, the EU’s mistreatment of Turkey
is causing a lot of resentment among the Turkish people, potentially
scuttling any further reform attempts and perhaps the modernization
project as a whole. Profound structural reform in Turkey can only
be realized when it is not forced down Turkey’s throat by the EU. In
order to do that, Turkey and the EU need to part company.

This is, without a doubt, a thin line to tread. For the last decade
or so, Turkey’s democratization has come about with the hope of
joining the EU. For better or worse, the changes that were adapted
to increase freedom and prosperity were equated with the prospects
of joining the EU. If that connection is lost, and it might be lost
very soon, then Turkish people might give up on their hopes for a
better future. Turks are already resentful against the EU. In order
to curb that resentment, it is most prudent to back away from the
root cause of the distrust and place Turkish people’s well-being –
not EU’s never-ending demands – to the center of policy-making. That
would be better for both Turkey and the EU.

Barýn Kayaoðlu is a Ph.D. student in history at the University of
Virginia in Charlottesville, Virginia and a regular contributor to
the Journal of Turkish Weekly.

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BAKU: Azeri MPs urge French senate to reject Armenian Genocide bill

Azad Azarbaycan TV, Baku,
13 Oct 06

AZERI MPS URGE FRENCH SENATE TO REJECT ARMENIAN GENOCIDE BILL

[Presenter] The Azerbaijani parliament has expressed its protest at
the law adopted by the French National Assembly criminalizing the
denial of the so-called Armenian genocide. The Milli Maclis adopted a
statement criticizing the French parliament for believing false
Armenian propaganda and demanding that the Senate reject the law.

[Correspondent] The so-called Armenian genocide is a figment of one’s
diseased imagination and is based on false documents, the Milli
Maclis says in a statement issued in protest at the law adopted by
the French National Assembly criminalizing the denial of the
so-called Armenian genocide. The statement says that the Armenians
have been conducting their reviled policy against Turks for centuries
and have always tried to take advantage of the so-called Armenian
genocide.

Although a proposal has been made to open the archives of the Ottoman
Empire, the Armenian side have always refused a healthy scientific
dispute. In fact, using covert and overt support from Tsarist Russia
beginning from the end of the 19th century, Armenian nationalists
have carried out acts of terror against Turks in Turkey and in the
South Caucasus and violently wiped out hundreds of thousands of Turks
and razed villages and monuments to the ground.

[Passage omitted: Historical background]

The statement said that by falling for Armenian lies and adopting
such a law, the French National Assembly is dealing a heavy blow to
the mediatory mission of the French government to establish peace and
stability in the South Caucasus.

[Passage omitted: Deputy Speaker Bahar Muradova read out the
statement from the rostrum]

The Azerbaijani Milli Maclis, which expresses the will of the
Azerbaijani people, voices its strong protest at the adoption of the
unfair law by the French parliament and expects the French Senate to
take urgent measures to prevent it from taking force.

Namiq Aliyev, Emin Aliyarli, "Son Xabar".

Students rally in Armenia to support France’s genocide bill

Agence France Presse — English
October 13, 2006 Friday

Students rally in Armenia to support France’s genocide bill

Around 1,000 students rallied in the Armenian capital Friday to thank
the French parliament for backing a bill that would make it a crime
to deny that Turks committed genocide against the Armenians in the
early 20th century.

"Thank You France!" and "Hail French Justice!" read two of the
placards held up by the students from a nationalist youth group, who
waved flags of Armenia and France as they marched through central
Yerevan.

Participants at the rally laid flowers by the French embassy
building.

"With this march we want to express our gratitude to the French
parliament and the French people," said Aik Asatryan, head of the
Dashnaktsutyun group that organised the march.

"We want to say thank you. Despite threats from Turkey, they were not
afraid and took the right decision," Asatryan said.

Participants at the rally presented France’s ambassador to Yerevan,
Henry Cuny, with a letter that read: "With this step France has once
again shown its support for defending human rights and freedom of
speech."

The French parliament on Thursday approved on first reading a bill
that would make it a crime to deny that the 1915-1917 massacres of
Armenians by the Ottoman Turks constituted genocide.

The bill still needs the approval of the Senate and the president to
take effect.

Turkey, which strongly rejects the use of the term genocide in the
sensitive Armenian issue, slammed the vote, saying France had dealt
"a heavy blow" to longstanding bilateral relations.

Turk who defied official history wins Nobel Prize

The Times, UK
Oct 13 2006

Turk who defied official history wins Nobel Prize

From Suna Erdem in Istanbul

ORHAN PAMUK, Turkey’s foremost novelist, who faced trial earlier this
year for comments about the massacres of Armenians in the First World
War, won the 2006 Nobel Prize for Literature yesterday.
Charges of `insulting Turkishness’ brought against Pamuk, 54, were
dropped on a technicality after attracting worldwide attention and
stirring protests that Turkish laws restricted freedom of expression.
The case damaged his country’s aspiration to join the European Union.

He had been favourite to win the prize for a rich body of work that
explores the complexities of identity and clashing cultures in
Turkey, a secular, overwhelmingly Muslim state, that bridges Europe
and Asia.

Intense applause greeted his name when it was announced by Horace
Engdahl, the head of the Swedish Academy.

In a twist that considerably dampened celebrations in Turkey, the
prize was announced on the day that the French Parliament approved a
Bill to make it illegal to deny that the Armenian killings amounted
to genocide. Abdullah Gul, Turkey’s Foreign Minister, said that his
country would consider retaliatory measures against France. In
Ankara, protesters pelted the French Embassy with eggs.

Mr Engdahl dismissed criticism that politics might have been a factor
in the selection. `I believe that this will be met with delight by
all readers,’ he said. `But it can naturally give rise to a certain
amount of political turbulence. That is not what we are interested
in.’

The Academy said that Pamuk – whose works include My Name is Red, an
historical whodunnit starring Ottoman miniaturists, Black Book,
chronicling a man’s search for his wife through Istanbul, and
Istanbul, an autobiographical portrait of the city – has `discovered
new symbols for the clash and interlacing of cultures’. It added:
`Pamuk has said that growing up, he experienced a shift from a
traditional Ottoman family environment to a more Western-oriented
lifestyle.’

On winning the Kr10 million (£728,000) prize, Pamuk declined to
answer political questions, but predicted that it would raise the
international profile of Turkish literature. `This will lead the
world to review Turkish culture as a culture of peace,’ he said in
New York.

Pamuk’s win was welcomed in Turkey, with Foreign Ministry officials
and the eminent writer Yasar Kemal offering their congratulations.
But his critics, who concede that Pamuk’s multiple international
awards more than prove the quality of his writing, have said that his
forays outside literature would not have gone unnoticed. `I think you
can say there is more than literature at stake here. Perhaps it’s
always been a mixture between what’s on the printed page and what the
writer stands for politically,’ Ian Jack, the editor of Granta, said.

Ozdemir Ince, the prominent Turkish poet, also said that he believed
Pamuk was honoured because of his politics. `If you ask serious
literature people, they would place Pamuk at the end of the list,’ Mr
Ince said. `Turkish literature did not win the Nobel Prize, Pamuk
did.’

Until last year Pamuk, the Istanbul-born son of a bourgeois family,
had been considered a rather aloof, literary figure. His fanciful,
stylish prose won him acclaim but his acute observations about his
fellow Turks also made enemies.

His trial, for `insulting Turkishness’ followed his assertion that
one million Armenians had been killed in Turkey in 1915, and 30,000
Kurds during an insurgency decades later. Although the case was
dismissed, it caused great embarrassment to Ankara as it tried to
demonstrate to the EU that Turkey is reforming its restrictive laws.

BAKU: FM meets with Germany’s representative in PACE

AzerTag, Azerbaijan
Oct 13 2006

FOREIGN MINISTER MEETS WITH GERMANY’S REPRESENTATIVE IN PACE
[October 13, 2006, 15:22:00]

Foreign Minister Elmar Mammadyarov met with Germany’s representative
in the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe Mr. Rainder
Steenblock and his accompanying delegation, press service of the
Ministry said.

Mr. Steenblock said it is his first visit to Azerbaijan.

Elmar Mammadyarov noted Azerbaijan is seeking integration into
Europe, and pointed to the Action Plan and memorandum on enhancement
of bilateral energy cooperation to be signed between Azerbaijan and
the European Union.

The Minister said Azerbaijan-NATO cooperation is also rapidly
developing, stressing the successful implementation of the Individual
Partnership Action Plan signed between the Organization and his
country.

On development of Azerbaijan’s energy sector, Mr. Mammadyarov
stressed the importance to enhance the non-oil sector including
agriculture, tourism and infrastructure.

On the Armenia-Azerbaijan conflict over Nagorno-Karabakh, Elmar
Mammadyarov stressed Armenia’s non-constructive stance on this
dispute.

Rainder Steenblock, in his turn, said Germany is keen to develop its
ties with the countries in South Caucasus region.

He also pointed out that conflicts like the Nagorno-Karabakh pose a
serious threat to the entire region.

Analysis: French focus on Armenian ‘genocide’

BBC News, UK
Oct 13 2006

Analysis: French focus on Armenian ‘genocide’
By Clive Myrie
BBC News, Paris

A dictionary will tell you that genocide is the organised killing of
a people to end their collective existence.

Ethnic Armenian campaigners in France have hailed the vote

Because of its scope, it requires central planning and a machinery to
implement it.

Genocide was clearly Adolf Hitler’s aim – it was also what the Hutus
of Rwanda desired in 1994.

There are many Turks who will not deny hundreds of thousands of
Armenians were killed in 1915 during a resettlement programme to
other parts of the Ottoman Empire.

But people died, they say, in inter-communal warfare – it was not the
organised killing of a people to end their collective existence. It
was not genocide.

There are many others around the world who beg to differ but some
here in France want to enshrine their view in law.

The lower house of parliament has approved a bill making it a crime
to deny Armenians suffered genocide. No other country has tried this,
so why are the French doing so now?

"Everything is politics" they say and for critics of the French
initiative that is exactly what the controversy is about – politics.

Wooing voters

The bill was proposed by the minority Socialists in the French
Parliament.

There is a presidential election next year and cynics say pushing for
a law criminalising denial of an Armenian genocide plays well with
Armenians here who vote.

Jack Lang, a Socialist MP, believes he knows what is going on and has
broken ranks.

"I believe the Socialist party has adopted an electoralist point of
view. It is not sincere. It is only to get the electoral support of
the Armenian community."

Cynics say there are others whom those who put forward the bill want
to impress: the majority of French people who do not want Turkey
joining the European Union.

Indeed many French politicians agree a mainly Muslim country has no
place in the EU and this may be driving the anti-Turkish bill.

Cross-party support

But is cynicism over the motives behind the bill fair?

For many French politicians denying the Armenian genocide is like
denying the Holocaust and it was not just Socialists who supported
the bill.

They were joined by a number of centre-right politicians too.

Herve Mariton of the ruling UMP party said:

"The genocide is a fact. It is an absolute disgrace for the 20th
Century, it is an absolute disgrace for humanity, it has to be stated
as such."

The government of President Jacques Chirac is in a difficult
position.

He has suggested Turkish recognition of the Armenian genocide should
be a pre-condition of entry into the EU, but he has distanced his
government from the bill.

Principle

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin says it is a bad idea and
insists France wants strong ties with Turkey.

French businesses fear trade will suffer. Exports to Turkey were
worth 4.66bn euros last year.

That is why ultimately the bill will never become law.

It has to go to the Senate for a vote and with the government’s
majority in the upper house, it is highly unlikely to pass.

Gesture politics then and a cry from the heart by MPs who believe it
was genocide, or is all this politicking?

And does it make sense to criminalise Armenian genocide denial
anyway?

French jails would be overcrowded with Turks, proud of their history.

Those in favour of the bill emphatically say yes, the horrors of the
past must not be forgotten or denied.

The new bill is not about politics, they say, but principle.