Author: Khoyetsian Rose

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THE SOLUTION WILL BE FAVOURABLE
`As to Karabakh issue, we’ll take a decision that is advantegeous for our
people, that solves the problem raised in 1988′, – Serge Sargsyan told the
journalist during today’s briefing.
Mr. Sargsyan didn’t comment on the parliament resolution concerning the
return of deposits. «I’ve never spoken loudly on tat subject and now I
won’t. The Prime-minister knows my opinion of that question, he’ll announce
it if he finds it necessary», – Minister of Defence said.

Zaman, Turkey
Oct 8 2005
European Politicians Think `Kurdish is Still Prohibited in Turkey’
By Habib Guler
Published: Friday, October 07, 2005
zaman.com
European Parliament (EP) Human Rights Subcommittee members visiting
Turkish Parliament experienced difficult moments when they asked
questions that revealed a lack of information.
Human Rights Commission Head Mehmet Elkatmis replied to the question
of when Kurdish will be permitted in Turkey saying, `Education and
broadcasting in Kurdish is free in Turkey.’ The delegation, under the
presidency of Helene Flautre, French member of EP, was informed by
Elkatmis about the developments in turkey. Flautre spoke at the
beginning of the meeting and congratulated Turkey for its efforts to
enter the EU. However the EP delegation asked questions about the
agenda in the part of the meeting which was closed to the press and
were surprised when they got answers they did not expect. It is
reported that the EP authorities brought a staged photo shot at
Bakirkoy Mental Institution and which had been published in some
newspapers in Europe recently and asked about torturing in Turkey.
Elkatmis said that the photo describes a scene which was totally made
up and emphasized that there is no tolerance to torture in Turkey.
Polish member Jozef Pinior raised the case opened against Orhan Pamuk
after he affirmed the Armenian Genocide in an interview and asked
when Turkey will change its policy on its history. Elkatmis replied
`The case against Orhan Pamuk can be seen in any country. There were
punishments for the ones who speak for Jews in Poland. There is an
investigation against the President of Turkish Historical Society
(TTK) Yusuf Halacoglu in Switzerland for denying the Armenian
Genocide. Armenians occupied 20 percent of the lands of Azerbaijan
and massacred 250,000 Azeri. Why do not you ever raise questions
about that?’
EP members said after they had eaten that they were impressed that
they had been served food even though the people welcoming them were
fasting for Ramadan.

AUSTRIA’S GAMES OVER TURKEY
The International Herald Tribune
October 6, 2005 Thursday
The European Union has finally cleared the way to opening membership
talks with Turkey, after wisely rejecting an attempt by Austria to put
unacceptable conditions on the negotiations. Jack Straw, the British
foreign secretary, should be congratulated on leading the rescue effort
in Luxembourg. And a reassuring phone call from Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice to Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey also
helped mitigate the Turks’ understandable bitterness over this process.
The debate over expanding the EU to include a huge, poor, Muslim
country has become the focus of a whole host of problems and
frustrations. But the way to accession negotiations had seemed
clear after the Union decided last December that Monday was to be
the starting date. Then came the crushing rejections of a proposed
European constitution in France and the Netherlands, leadership
crises in member states, and the “expansion fatigue” brought on by
the induction of 10 new countries.
As the deadline neared, Austria suddenly declared that it would agree
to open talks with Turkey only if alternatives to full membership were
declared a viable option. An overwhelming majority of the Austrian
public is opposed to Turkish membership, and Chancellor Wolfgang
Schlussel apparently thought he could wring some votes out of the
issue in a by-election on Saturday. (His party was trounced.)
With the Turks already feeling profoundly humiliated over the entire
process, going down that road would have been disastrous. Erdogan’s
reformist government, which has invested huge political capital in EU
membership, would have become vulnerable before Muslim and military
hard-liners, and Europe’s millions of Muslims would have felt even
more marginalized.
The effort to save the day included a phone call from Rice to Erdogan
to assure him that Turkey’s role in NATO would not be reduced,
as well as an EU agreement to start accession talks with Croatia,
something Austria is keen to do. The trick now is to move along the
tough process of these talks without further alienating Turkey from
Europe, and vice versa. Turkey still needs to make big changes in
its attitudes and practices on human rights, the role of women, the
rule of law, the slaughter of Armenians early last century and the
aspirations of its Kurdish minority. But Erdogan’s progress on many
of these issues has demonstrated a commitment to change. The ball is
rolling, and it was disgraceful of Austria to endanger the process
for petty domestic posturing. We hope those games are now over.

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WEBSITE AT <;HTTP:// 1) French Insurance Company Agrees to Pay $17 Million to Genocide Heirs 2) Kurd Rebels End Ceasefire against Turkey 3) His Holiness Meets with Canadian Prime Minister 4) Turkey's Erdogan to Chirac: keep it to yourself 5) His Holiness Aram I arrives in Los Angeles 1) French Insurance Company Agrees to Pay $17 Million to Genocide Heirs LOS ANGELES--The French Insurance Company Axa has agreed to pay $17 million to descendants of life insurance policyholders who perished during the Armenian genocide. The unofficial announcement came on October 2 by prominent Los Angeles attorney Mark Geragos, one of the attorneys, along with Vartkes Yeghiayan and Brian Kabateck who filed a class action lawsuit in a California federal court against Axa. Though the judge in the case has not signed the deal, he has agreed to the $17 million settlement. Geragos made the announcement during a USC Institute of Armenian Studies banquet honoring Federal Judge Dickran Tevrizian who mediated the settlement. Of the $17 million, up to $11 million will go to the heirs of close to 11,000 life insurance policyholders; $3 million to various Armenian non-profits; and $3 million for attorneys fees. A French-Armenian non-profit will process and pay the claims, and will receive funds leftover after claimants are paid. The Axa settlement follows a similar agreement with New York Life Insurance Company in early 2004. New York Life agreed to pay $20 million which was to be disbursed as follows: Up to $11 million for the heirs of 2,400 life insurance policyholders who perished during the Armenian genocide; $3 million for nine Armenian-American charitable and religious organizations; $2 million for administrative expenses; and $4 million for attorneys fees. 2) Kurd Rebels End Ceasefire against Turkey DIYARBAKIR(Reuters)--Kurdish rebels said on Thursday they had ended a unilateral ceasefire against Turkey and said that now the European Union had opened entry talks with Ankara this was a problem not for Turkey but for the whole EU. The Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) rebels declared a one-month ceasefire in their fight against Turkish security forces in August and extended it till Oct. 3, the day Ankara won EU approval to start accession negotiations. But Turkey's government and armed forces ignored the call, just as they have ignored all previous ceasefires, and military operations against the rebels in the mainly Kurdish southeast continued unabated, the PKK said. "It is certain that the Kurdish people will use their legitimate right of active defense and democratic resistance to protect themselves and their national honor against the increasing operations of destruction by the Turkish state," said a PKK statement. The PKK's ceasefire appeared to be an effort to get their case onto the political agenda during sensitive negotiations leading up to Turkey's Oct. 3 date for the start of entry talks. But the move was met with little success. "The lack of any mention in the EU's negotiation framework agreement of a solution to the Kurdish problem, or even a single word about the continuing low-intensity war, is an endorsement of the Turkish state's policy of denial," said the statement quoted by the Germany-based Mesopotamia news agency which is close to the rebels. "With the start of the negotiations the Kurdish problem is no longer just Turkey's problem, it is now a basic problem of the EU," the PKK statement said. But it made no mention of attacking European targets. More than 30,000 people, most of them Kurds, have been killed since the PKK took up arms in 1984 to fight for self-rule in Turkey's southeast. 3) His Holiness Meets with Canadian Prime Minister OTTAWA--During a lengthy meeting with Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin, His Holiness Aram I, thanked the Canadian government and people on behalf of the Armenian community of Canada for their consistent support. He emphasized that the Armenian community of Canada fully participates in advancing the country in various fields. Topics discussed included Lebanon's Armenian Community, and relations between the Republic of Armenia and Canada. The Pontiff also spoke about Canadian Parliament's recognition of the Armenian genocide last year, calling it a "tangible expression of Canada's stance on defending justice and human rights." Prime Minister Martin praised the Armenian community of Canada, highlighting their contribution to various sectors of Canadian society. He also said that he hoped relations and cooperation between Armenia and Canada would develop with time. The Prime Minister asked His Holiness about his views on the political situation of the Middle East, particularly Lebanon. The latter detailed Lebanon's current political climate, along with that of the region, saying he hoped Canada would take a more active role there. His Holiness presented the Canadian PM a book about the treasures of the Catholicosate of Cilicia, rescued from the Armenian Genocide. The delegation at the October 4 meeting with Prime Minister Martin included Archbishop Khajag Hagopian (Prelate of Canada), Hagop Der Khatchadourian (Armenian Revolutionary Federation's (ARF) Bureau member), Dr. Vahram Ehramdjian (ARF Central Committee of Canada), Apkar Mirakian (ANC of Canada) and Krikor Koyoumdjian (Canadian Armenian National Assembly). 4) Turkey's Erdogan to Chirac: keep it to yourself ANKARA(AFP)--Turkish prime minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan chided French president Jacques Chirac Wednesday for having said that Turkey needed a "cultural revolution" before it could join the European Union. "Mr. Chirac should keep his opinions on this issue to himself," Erdogan said. "Turkey undertakes its cultural revolutions by itself when it needs to... There is nothing for Mr. Chirac to worry about, he should calm down." The French president, a cautious supporter of Turkey's EU bid, expressed doubts Tuesday on whether this mainly Muslim country would ever be able to join the bloc, saying membership would require "a considerable effort... a major cultural revolution". In an interview with NTV television, Erdogan, said tongue-in-cheek: "I should first speak to him (Chirac) and learn what cultural revolution (is required), then we will make the necessary changes." He then got serious: "We have very substantial cultural dynamics, a very rich culture. We will take forward our friendship with them (the EU), preserving these cultural riches. "Our friends should keep in mind that we will say OK if this cultural revolution means integration, but if it means assimilation, they should not expect that from us," Erdogan said. Turkey began official membership talks with the EU on Tuesday after fierce wrangling on its accession terms, which underscored the increasing hostility in European public opinion to the admission of this relatively poor country of some 72 million. 5) His Holiness Aram I arrives in Los Angeles His Holiness Aram I, Catholicos of the Great House of Cilicia arrived in Los Angeles on Wednesday, kicking off a 15-day Pontifical Visit to region. Hundreds gathered to officially welcome his Holiness, who performed 'Hrashapar' service at Hollywood's St. Garabed Armenian Apostolic Church. Among the many events planned in the Los Angeles Area, His Holiness will also be visiting the Fresno and San Francisco Armenian communities. All subscription inquiries and changes must be made through the proper carrier and not Asbarez Online. ASBAREZ ONLINE does not transmit address changes and subscription requests. (c) 2005 ASBAREZ ONLINE. All Rights Reserved. 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ARMENIAN-ITALIAN BUSINESS CONFERENCE TO BE HELD IN YEREVAN OCTOBER 6
Pan Armenian
05.10.2005 13:58
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Armenian Foreign Minister Vartan Oskanian met
today with Italian Minister of Foreign Trade Adolfo Urso, who is in
Yerevan on the occasion of the Days of Armenian-Italian friendship,
RA MFA press office reported. In the words of the RA FM, the Armenian
people will have a perfect opportunity to get familiarized with the
Italian culture and the Armenian-Italian cooperation. The parties noted
the dynamic development of the Armenian-Italian economic relations
and the importance of the Armenian-Italian business forum to be
held October 6. By Mr. Urso’s request Vartan Oskanian presented the
latest regional developments and the process of the Nagorno Karabakh
conflict settlement.

BRAND EXPO UNIVERSAL INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION OPEN OCT 14 TO 16 IN YEREVAN
ARKA News Agency, Armenia
Oct 5 2005
YEREVAN, October 5. /ARKA/. BRAND EXPO universal international
exhibition will be open from October 14 to 16 in Yerevan, Expomedia
Exhibition Projects Center told ARKA. According to the press release,
home and foreign brands will be exposed there. The exhibition is
organized by Expomedia Exhibition Projects Center in association with
Expofarm, a Moscow exhibition company and with support of
Trade-Industrial Chamber of Armenia. The exhibition will be opened in
Armenian Government Congress Hall. Address is Melik-Adamyan Str. 1.

EU OFFICIAL ISSUES CAUTION OVER TIES WITH AZERBAIJAN
RadioFreeEurope/RadioLiberty, Czech Republic
Oct 5 2005
5 October 2005 — The European Union’s external relations commissioner,
Benita Ferrero-Waldner, warned today that Azerbaijan risks delaying
its participation in the EU’s European Neighborhood Program by pursuing
ties with Northern Cyprus.
“I told the Azeris clearly: ‘If they do not change their attitude, if
they do not find a solution, we will start moving ahead with Armenia
and Georgia,'” Ferrero-Waldner said. “We’re hoping now that the Azeris
will find a solution, but this is going to be a matter of some weeks
after I must give the go-ahead to the others [Armenia and Georgia]
because I cannot let them wait.”
The EU only recognizes the Greek-community government of the divided
island, which joined the EU in 2004.
Cyprus is now blocking Azerbaijan’s progress in the European
neighborhood program — also known as the wider Europe initiative —
over Baku’s links to the Turkish part of Cyprus, having specifically
complained about commercial flight activity.
Ferrero-Waldner, who was speaking before the European Parliament’s
foreign affairs committee in Brussels, said she had warned Azerbaijan
of the risk.

NO WREATH TO THE PARLIAMENT
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The coalition was saved; Hmayak Hovhannisyan will not bring the
promised wreath signifying the death of the coalition and the
Parliament to the NA as today the draft about the return of the
deposits was included into the agenda of the session.
“Our efforts of the last few years were finally crowned with success,
and issue will be discussed and solved legislatively, after which
a very serious procedure will start during which the Government
will establish the correlation of the deposit return. To our mind,
the return must be full and not partial”, said Hmayak Hovhannisyan
during the interview with the journalists.
He also reminded that the NA President Arthur Baghdasaryan had promised
to return 1USD for every 10 Soviet rubles. “We have the experience
of constructive cooperation with the NA President. As an independent
deputy I will continue to apply pressure on the Parliament as the
issue is entering the final phase”, Hmayak Hovhannisyan warned.
By the way, a very interesting situation has been created; Hmayak
Hovhannisyan thinks the issue has been included into the agenda under
the pressure he applied, Arthur Baghdasaryan thinks it is the victory
of OYP, and the opposition contribution the inclusion to themselves.

BRIDGING THE BOSPORUS: ‘TURKEY HAS ALWAYS REPRESENTED A DIFFERENT CONTINENT’
by Peter Goodspeed
National Post (Canada)
October 3, 2005 Monday
National Edition
Lined with tea gardens, Ottoman villas and ancient fortresses,
the straits twist and turn for 35 kilometres, linking the Sea of
Marmara to the Black Sea. With an intoxicating mix of splendour,
simple beauty and cruel history, this sliver of Turkey has become
one of the world’s great cultural frontiers.
This is where the Orient meets the Occident, where Christianity
encounters Islam, where tradition collides with modernity — a bustling
crossroads to Europe and the Balkans, the Middle East and the Caucasus.
Now, the straits and all of Turkey are about to become the focus of
an intense international debate as diplomats prepare to negotiate
Turkey’s application for membership in the European Union.
The talks, scheduled to get underway in Luxembourg today barring a
last-minute veto by Austria, which opposes full EU membership for
Turkey, could last a decade. By the time they end, neither Europe
nor Turkey will be the same.
Turkey’s application to join the EU is already forcing Europe to
question its identity as never before. EU members are struggling
to define their future, while juggling centuries-old fears against
new ambitions.
Even as diplomats debate the terms of Turkey’s entry, Europe has been
swept by a bitter public backlash against the move.
Last spring’s rejection of the EU’s draft constitution by voters in
France and the Netherlands was said to be fuelled by fears of Turkey
joining Europe.
More recently, an opinion poll carried out by the European Commission
claims 52% of Europeans are opposed to letting Turkey join their
club. Only 35% agree.
Seventy per cent of French voters, almost three-quarters of Germans
and 80% of Austrians are against Ankara’s membership.
Angela Merkel, leader of Germany’s Christian Democratic Union and
possibly Germany’s next chancellor, launched a campaign last month
to block Turkey’s entry into the EU, sending letters to European
leaders asking them to offer Turkey only a “privileged partnership,”
not full membership.
“We are firmly convinced,” she wrote, “that Turkey’s membership would
overtax the EU economically and socially and endanger the process of
European integration.”
Opponents of Turkey’s admission to the EU cite everything from
clashing values to different cultures, a lack of a common geography,
differences in religion and Ankara’s record on human rights.
Valery Giscard d’Estaing, the former president of France who drafted
the latest version of the EU constitution, rejects Turkey’s membership,
declaring, “It would be the end of Europe.”
“There is an obvious contradiction between the pursuit of Europe’s
political integration and Turkish entry into European institutions,”
he says.
Former EU commissioner Frits Bolkestein, a Dutchman who used to be
responsible for the EU’s internal markets, taxation and customs union,
warns that letting Turkey join the EU will trigger a massive wave of
migration that could result in Europe being “Islamized.”
“The liberation of Vienna in 1683 [from a siege by the Ottoman Turks]
would have been in vain,” he says.
Even Pope Benedict XVI has waded into the debate. Last year, when he
was still Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, he told the French newspaper Le
Figaro Turkey threatens European culture.
“Turkey has always represented a different continent, in permanent
contrast to Europe,” he said. “Making the two continents identical
would be a mistake. It would mean a loss of richness, the disappearance
of the culture to the benefit of economics.”
“Europe has a culture which gives it a common identity,” the
then-Cardinal said. “The roots which formed this continent are those
of Christianity.”
On the eve of today’s talks, Austria made a last-ditch attempt to
block any agreement on the ground rules for the negotiations by
demanding diplomats should clearly set out “alternatives” to giving
Turkey full EU membership.
Last week, the European Parliament grudgingly approved opening
negotiations with Turkey, but passed a non-binding resolution that
insists Turkey must acknowledge that the killing of Armenians under
Ottoman rule in 1915 was genocide before it will be admitted to the
EU. Those moves have infuriated Turkey, which has patiently been
trying to get into the EU for 42 years.
Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul has already warned “should [the
EU] place anything short of full membership [on the table], or any
new conditions, we will walk away. And this time, it will be for good.”
Turkish public opinion, which overwhelmingly favours joining the EU,
has grown increasingly frustrated over European preconditions.
In 1963, when John Kennedy was still president of the United States
and Turkey was a bulwark against communism and a key member in NATO,
the Turks were granted associate membership in the European Economic
Community, the EU’s predecessor.
But after Ankara applied for full, formal membership in 1987 it had
to wait until 1999 to be recognized as an EU “candidate.”
In the meantime, such fledgling democracies as post-Franco Spain,
post-Salazar Portugal, Greece, after it sent the military back to
their barracks, and the former communist countries of Eastern Europe
were all accepted into the EU.
Turkey still waits and successive Turkish governments have repeatedly
adopted EU-recommended reforms to pave the way for its admission.
They’ve passed laws to end torture, to abolish state security courts
and to reduce the political role of the military. They reformed
Turkey’s civil code, gave women equal rights to household property
and ended their need to obtain their husband’s permission to work
outside the home.
They’ve abolished the death penalty, rewritten the criminal code,
and legalized the use of Kurdish in education and broadcasting.
Despite growing opposition from hard-line Islamists and nationalist
politicians, Ankara’s moderate Islamic government continues to press
for EU membership.
Turkey’s elite, infatuated with the promises of liberal democracy,
long to be regarded as part of Europe, without becoming Westernized.
Turkey’s poor lust after the economic advantages of EU membership.
Still, there are Islamist religious leaders who warn of being corrupted
by the West and Turkish nationalists who feel their country is being
humiliated.
Britain, one of the strongest supporters of Turkey’s EU candidacy,
says it wants to see a staunch NATO ally, who straddles a strategically
crucial piece of real estate, safely inside Europe.
The possibility would allow Europe to shape a new accommodation between
Islam and the secular West and might even give the continent a bigger
say in the Middle East.
“It would be a huge betrayal of the hopes and expectations of
the Turkish people and of [Turkey’s] Prime Minister [Recep Tayyip]
Erdogan’s program of reform, if, at this crucial time, we turned our
back on Turkey,” British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw said last week
at the Labour Party conference in Brighton.
Still, a clash of cultures that assumes religious overtones could
have serious security repercussions for Europe, which already has 23
million Muslims living inside its borders.
“For the EU to cross the Bosporus is to move from a community based
on centuries-old notions of shared history and geography to one based
on shared democratic standards and the future,” argues Timothy Garton
Ash, an Oxford University historian.
“Two logics clash at the gates of the Bosporus: the logic of unity
and the logic of peace,” he says.
“If Europe is mainly about creating a coherent political community,
with some aspirations to be a superpower, it stops on the western
side of the Bosporus — for another decade, at the least,” he says.
“If we think it is more urgent to promote democracy, respect for
human rights, prosperity and therefore the chances for peace in the
most dangerous region in the world, we step on to that bridge.”
GRAPHIC: Black & White Photo: STR, AFP, Getty Images; Members of
the Turkish Nationalist Movement Party …; Black & White Photo:
Umit Bektas, Reuters; …chant “no to Europe” during an anti-EU
demonstration in the capital, Ankara, yesterday. Some 100,000 people
turned out to protest their government’s negotiations with the European
Union, which open in Luxembourg today.
From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress

TURKEY’S ENTRY ‘WILL DECIDE FATE OF EU’
Gulf News, United Arab Emirates
Oct 3 2005
Ankara: European leaders must decide whether the European Union will
rise to the challenge of becoming a global power or remain a “Christian
club”, Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Saturday.
Meanwhile, Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul said in statements
published yesterday that Turkey was not intent on starting European
Union membership talks at any price, reiterating Ankara’s position
that it will not accept new conditions or alternatives to full EU
membership.
Predominantly Muslim Turkey, a largely poor country of about 70
million, is scheduled to start long-awaited membership talks today,
but those talks have now been thrown into disarray over Austrian
objections.
EU foreign ministers were to hold a last-ditch meeting in Luxembourg
later yesterday to try and overcome reservations from Austria, which
wants Turkey to be offered a “privileged partnership” with the EU
instead of full membership.
“We are not striving to begin negotiations no matter what, at any
cost,” Gul said in an interview published in Yeni Safak newspaper.
“If the problems aren’t solved then the negotiations won’t begin.”
Several countries also have been pushing Turkey to recognise EU
member Cyprus, and the European Parliament called on Turkey this
week to recognise the killing of Armenians by Ottoman Turks at the
beginning of the 20th century as genocide.
Erdogan, addressing lawmakers of his party at a resort just outside
Ankara, said Europe was at a historic crossroad.
“Either it will show political maturity and become a global power,
or it will end up a Christian club,” he said.
“No EU decision will deviate Turkey from its course” toward further
democracy and reforms, he said.
“We will, however, be saddened that a project for the alliance of
civilisations will be harmed.”
Erdogan spoke to Austrian Chancellor Wolfgang Schuessel by telephone on
Saturday, telling him that a privileged partnership was not an option.
After more than 40 years of aspiring to join the European Union,
Turkey feels it is being held hostage on the eve of negotiations
by Austrian leaders using Turkey’s EU bid as an issue in upcoming
national elections.
Thousands of supporters of an anti-EU ultranationalist party were
scheduled to hold a rally in Ankara yesterday, in part to protest
increasing demands and conditions being forced on Turkey.
Gul said on Saturday, “If the European Union decides not to keep its
word, if its own leaders decide to forget their signatures beneath
the decisions they’ve made before the ink has even dried … if they
decide to ignore all this and impose new conditions that Turkey will
never accept … then of course in that case this kind of partnership
can never be.”
A poll by A&G Research of 1,834 people in 19 provinces showed the
majority of Turkish people remain supportive of the EU bid, with 57.4
per cent agreeing with the statement, “Turkey must join” the EU.
The poll, taken on September 24-29, had a margin of error of 2
per cent.
From: Emil Lazarian | Ararat NewsPress