some 40 refugees from 2 camps visit Moravian Karst

SOME 40 REFUGEES FROM TWO CAMPS VISIT MORAVIAN KARST

Czech News Agency (CTK)
December 19, 2004

BLANSKO, South Moravia, Dec 19 ; (MS) — Some 40 refugees from the
Zbysov and Zastavka facilities in south Moravia visited sights in
the Moravian Karst today, Martina Vodickova from the Nesehnuti civic
association has told CTK adding they were very much pleased with
the trip.

Vodickova said that refugees, many of whom are families with children,
do not have enough opportunities and money to spend their leisure time
in an attractive way while waiting for their asylum applications to
be processed.

This can result in pathological phenomena, such as loss of interest
in developments around them, alcoholism and tension in the group they
live in, Svatava Zajdakova from Nesehnuti said.

Vodickova said that the untraditional tourists were refugees from
the Islamic regime in Iran, the Chechnya conflict, desperate social
conditions in Armenia as well human rights violations in Vietnam.

“We want to show that the refugees are people like us, who are not
coming to threaten us or to take work from us, but they only seek
safety in the Czech Republic,” Vodickova said.

The Moravian Karst administration did not collect entry fees from
the refugees.

Nesehnuti plans further actions for the refugees, including trips,
cultural actions, sports activities, as well as a theatre performance
for children.

Duma Speaker Meets with Armenian Speaker

SPEAKER OF STATE DUMA OF RUSSIA MEETS WITH SPEAKER OF NATIONAL
ASSEMBLY OF ARMENIA

YEREVAN, DECEMBER 15. ARMINFO. Speaker of State Duma of Russian
Federation Boris Gryzlov met Wednesday with Speaker of National
Assembly of Armenia Arthur Baghdasarian.

ARMINFO was informed in the press office of Armenian parliament,
chairmen of permanent commissions of Armenian parliament, leaders of
deputy factions and groups took part in the meeting, during which
Arthur Baghdasarian and Boris Gryzlov concerned issues of the
development of interstate relations. They laid emphasis to increase
the efficiency of activity of the Parliamentary Assembly of CIS, joint
word on elaboration of model laws of CIS PA, in particular, creation
of single legislative basis for fight against terrorism,
implementation of joint programs in the spheres of science, education
and culture, expansion of interregional relations, cooperation within
the bounds of international structures.

According to the speaker of the National Assembly of Armenia, our
country attaches great importance to the role of Russian Federation in
the issue of peaceful settlement of Karabakh conflict within the
framework of the OSCE Minsk Group. Arthur Baghdasarian stressed the
importance of re-launch of five Armenian enterprises transferred to
Russia by the agreement “Property against debt”, mentioning that
people are waiting for creation of working places and investments
envisioned by the agreement. The participants had stressed the
importance of restoration of the railway communication between Armenia
and Russia, launch of a ferry.

Boris Gryzlov stated that they will do their best for implementation
of the provisions of the agreement “Property against debt”, mentioning
that the Russian budget for 2005 envisions allocation of funds for
it. The speaker of the State Duma promised that after his returning
Moscow the question on restoration of the railway and ferry
communication will become a subject of special discussion. Boris
Gryzlov also introduced the Armenian counterpart with the results of
the activity of the tate Duma for the last year.

BAKU: Speaker Accuses Saakashvili of Reneging on Promise to Azeris

Speaker accuses Georgian leader of reneging on promise made to ethnic Azeris

Zaman, Baku
9 Dec 04

Excerpt from Aziz Mustafa’s report by Azerbaijani newspaper Zaman on 9
December headlined “Relations with Georgia turn sour”, subheaded “The
reason is that President Saakashvili does not keep his promise to our
compatriots living in this country made in the run-up to the
elections”

Our compatriots submitted their demands to the Georgian government
yesterday [8 December]. They demanded that the person who killed our
compatriot [67-year-old Hilal Idrisova] during the recent events [in
Marneuli District] be arrested within the next 24 hours and that
[Georgian] President Mikheil Saakashvili issues a decree giving land
to our compatriots to be declared on TV. Our compatriots said that
otherwise they will march to Tbilisi.

[Passage omitted: details of the incident]

The Azerbaijani parliament also expressed concern about the recent
developments in Georgia. Speaker Murtuz Alasgarov could not conceal
his concern about the developments at the last parliamentary
session. He said that Saakashvili reneged on a promise made in the
run-up to the elections to provide the Azerbaijanis with plots of
lands. However, he has taken appropriate measures to provide Armenians
with land.

Alasgarov said that Saakashvili discriminated against our compatriots
in favou r of the Armenians.

This is a very serious accusation. Alasgarov’s accusations did not end
there. He also recalled that the Azerbaijanis living in this country
had not been involved in the construction of the Baku-Tbilisi-Ceyhan
oil pipeline and described this as inadmissible. The speaker stressed
that the Georgian budget depends on the income to be gained from the
oil pipeline. Having stressed this, he gave a specific warning to the
neighbouring country. He promised to phone the Georgian parliament’s
leadership to discuss the issue.

Commenting on the issue, the Georgian ambassador to Azerbaijan, Zurab
Gumberidze, said the developments were being investigated
officially. However, judging by the course of events it will not be
easy at all to avoid some misunderstanding between the two countries.

[In an interview with Xalq Cabhasi newspaper, the deputy chairman of
United People’s Front of Azerbaijan Party, Elcin Mirzabayli, called on
the Azerbaijani government to appeal to international bodies and the
UN over the issue]

What’s Right With Turkey

Front Page Magazine
Dec 3 2004

What’s Right With Turkey
By Mustafa Akyol
FrontPageMagazine.com | December 3, 2004

In its Nov. 22nd issue, Frontpage Magazine posted an article by
Gamaliel Isaac, entitled “Turkey’s Dark Past.” Mr. Isaac’s piece was
basically an attempt to rebut of one of my previous articles,
“European Muslims and The Quest For the Soul of Islam.” I have argued
there that, among many other things, Turkey has had an Islamic
heritage free of anti-Westernism and anti-Semitism and has now an
atmosphere quite favorable to open society. Further, I suggested that
the West should certainly support Turkey’s entry into the European
Union, noting that this would blur the “civilizational” boundaries
and create a model for other Muslim nations.

Mr. Isaac did not agree with these points and presented several
quotes and comments about Turkey’s alleged “dark past.” This past,
according to Isaac, was rife with anti-Christian and anti-Jewish
hatred.

I believe that Mr. Isaac is deeply mistaken about this. But I am glad
that he brought up such criticism, because it will help me to unveil
some myths and biases about Turkey and Islam in general. The “dark
past” in question is “dark” because of those myths and biases. To
illuminate it, we have to revisit Mr. Isaac’s article.

The Turks and the Armenians

Mr. Isaac’s article starts with a long quote from Srdja (“Sergei”)
Trifkovic, a Serbian nationalist and author of the anti-Islamic
polemic The Sword and the Prophet. Later in this article I will take
a closer look at Trifkovic himself, including his links with Serbian
war criminals, but first of all let’s focus on his arguments.

The first paragraph Mr. Isaac quotes from Trifkovic is about “the
history of the Turkish oppression of the Armenian Christians.” Since
Armenians lived peacefully and flourished under Turkish (Ottoman)
rule for many centuries until the late 1800’s, that “history” would
at worst refer to a short period in Ottoman experience. Moreover, it
is not a “history of oppression” but the history of a clash between
Armenians and Turks, a clash in which both, but especially the
former, were inspired by nationalism, which was a new phenomenon in
Ottoman lands.

To call the Armenian-Turkish clash “oppression” or a “genocide” of
Armenians would be to see only side of reality. In his book, Death
and Exile: The Ethnic Cleansing of Ottoman Muslims, 1821-1922,
historian Justin McCarthy tells us about that much-neglected side,
too. He also tells about the emergence of mutual hatred between
Ottoman Muslims and Armenians. According to McCarthy:

The period that led up to World War I was one of increased
polarization in the east. The Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78 resulted
in further additions to the de facto population exchange of Muslims
to Anatolia and Armenians to the Caucasus. The wartime aid given the
Ottomans by Caucasian Muslims and aid given the Russians by Anatolian
Armenians reinforced the primacy of ethnic and religious affiliation
over loyalty to governments. In Anatolia, Armenian revolutionary
agitation and Kurdish raids both exacerbated the hatred and divisions
between Armenians and Muslims. In the Caucasus, the same hatred and
divisions surfaced in a bloody fashion during the Revolution of
1905.[1]

The “Armenian revolutionary agitation” is deliberately neglected by
those who argue that Armenians experienced a Holocaust under Ottoman
rule. They truly suffered, especially in 1915, and I am in no way
willing to minimize or trivialize that tragedy. But that was not a
“holocaust.” In the real Holocaust, Nazis exterminated 6,000,000 Jews
simply out of an unprovoked, sadistic hatred of the Jews. What
happened in 1915, and beforehand, was mutual killing in which the
Armenian loss was greater than that of the Muslims (Turks and Kurds),
but in which the brutality was pretty similar on both sides. In the
words of Bernard Lewis, a most authoritative commentator on the
Middle East, “the suffering of the Armenians was limited both in time
and space to the Ottoman Empire and, even there, only to the last two
decades of Ottoman history. More important, it was a struggle,
however unequal, about real issues; it was never associated with
either the demonic beliefs or the almost physical hatred which
inspired and directed anti-Semitism in Europe and sometimes
elsewhere.”[2]

Justin McCarthy sums up the nature of the struggle between Armenians
and Turks:

“In 1895 in Anatolia and in 1905 in the Caucasus, inter-communal
warfare broke out. Prior to that time, Muslims and Armenians had
supported either the Russian or the Ottoman empires. Now the Muslims
and Armenians had set about killing each other in their villages and
cities. This war was not a thing of armies, but of peoples. It had
been building for almost a century, brought about by Russian
invasion, Armenian nationalism, and Ottoman weakness. By 1910, the
polarization that was soon to result in mutual disaster was probably
inevitable. Blood had been shed and revenge was expected and desired.
Whatever their individual intentions, Muslims knew they were at risk
from the Armenians, and Armenians knew they were at risk from the
Muslims. Once World War I began, each side naturally assumed the
worst of the other, and acted accordingly.”[3]

Thus when we deal with the fate of Armenians of the Ottoman Empire,
we should see both sides of the tragedy in question.

What Trifkovic — Mr. Isaac’s trusted source on Ottoman history —
does is to strip events of their true historical contexts, present
inter-communal conflicts as unilateral aggressions, and show
exceptional cases of violence as the norm.

This type of distortion is also evident in Trifkovic’s following
statement:

“The bloodshed of 1915-1922 finally destroyed ancient Christian
communities and cultures that had survived since Roman times —
groups like the Jacobites (Syrian Orthodox), Nestorians (Iraqi
Orthodox), and Chaldaeans (Iraqi Catholic)…”

One might wonder how those Christian communities and cultures
survived in the first place “since Roman times.” The answer is what
some people can’t bear to hear nowadays: Islamic tolerance. The
Christians in question had been under the rule of Arab and then
Turkish governance for the preceding thirteen centuries, and they did
pretty well in light of pre-modern standards.

What happened, we should ask, between 1915-1922? The answer is quite
clear: Turkey and its Muslim peoples (Turk, Kurds, and other ethnic
Muslim groups) were engaged in a life-and-death struggle with the
Great Powers of Europe. Turkey joined WWI as an ally of Germany in
1915, and fought many bloody battles with the invading British,
French, Russian, Italian and Greek forces. When the war ended in
1918, the destruction of Turkey began and Anatolia, the historical
homeland of Turks, was invaded and carved up by these allies. This
was followed by the Turkish War of Liberation, which secured the
borders of modern Turkey.

During these long years of war, some of the Christian communities in
Turkey aligned themselves with the invaders. As a result, they became
targets of Turkish war effort in some cases. These were not
justifiable phenomena, but they are were understandable. They were
not examples of a Turkish onslaught against Christians, but rather of
bitter inter-communal conflict in a time of severe crisis and
destruction.

A better example to illustrate the historical truth in question and
the way it is distorted by Trifkovic would be the bloodshed in Smyrna
in 1922.

The Bloodshed in Smyrna — With the Truth Behind

In Mr. Isaac’s article, we read the following quote from Trifkovic:

“The burning of the Greek city of Smyrna and the massacre and
scattering of its three hundred thousand Christian inhabitants is one
of the most poignant – if not, after the vast outrages of the 20th
century, the bloodiest – crimes in all history. It marked the end of
the Greek community in Asia Minor. On the eve of its destruction,
Smyrna was a bustling port and commercial center. It was a genuinely
civilized, in the old-world sense, place. An American consul-general
later remembered a busy social life that included teas, dances,
musical afternoons, games of tennis and bridge, and soirees given in
the salons of the highly cultured Armenian and Greek bourgeoisie. Sic
gloria transit: sporadic killings of Christians, mostly Armenians,
started as soon as the Turks overran it on September 9, 1922.”

And the quote goes on with the details of “Turkish violence” against
the Greeks in the city.

If a reader doesn’t know much about the history of Turkey, what will
he picture from this? A civilized Greek city invaded and destroyed by
the savage Turkish hordes, right? Yes.

But nothing could be further from the truth. The truth is that Smyrna
(known as Izmir in Turkish) was an Ottoman city that included a Greek
quarter, and the Turks were not invading Smyrna, they were liberating
the city from the occupying Greek army. This army had started its
invasion of Smyrna three and a half years before and then had
occupied much of Western Anatolia.

During this occupation, local Greeks in Smyrna, who were Ottoman
citizens, welcomed the invading Greek Army and aligned themselves
with the intruders in nationalist zealotry. The intruders were
incredibly brutal to the Muslim population of Anatolia. Many cases of
the slaughter, rape and torture of Turkish Muslims are known. These,
as one could expect, aroused a Turkish rage against the Greeks. The
bloodshed in Smyrna in September, 1922 was an act of vengeance.

Ernest Hemingway is one of the Westerners who wrote in detail about
what happened in Smyrna at the time. He was, like many others, highly
critical of the Turks. Yet, again like many others, he neglected the
other side of the truth. In a recent article in The Hemingway Review,
author Matthew Stewart, Associate Professor of Humanities at Boston
University, acknowledges:

” … it should also be stated that Greek forces had engaged in
unnecessary brutality during the Greek occupation of the Anatolian
regions in question, first, upon their entry into Smyrna, and more
particularly during their hasty retreat towards Smyrna in the final,
losing stages of the war some three and a half years later. Arnold
Toynbee, serving on the ground in an official oversight capacity,
provides a noteworthy voice of contemporary protest against Greek
misconduct (by present standards quite possibly amounting to war
crimes). Indeed, the cycle of outrage and reprisal had unfortunately
been woven into the history of the area long before the conflicts of
1919-22. In his fiction and reportage, Hemingway notes instances of
cruelty originated by both sides, and perhaps, on the whole, comes
down harder on the Greeks than the Turks.”[4]

Of course this does not justify the bloodshed in Smyrna, but it helps
us to see that what Trifkovic shows us as Turkish cruelty was simply
the cruelty of war itself.

The distortion Trifkovic evinces here is indeed one that needs
attention. Now imagine: What would you think if you saw someone who
talks about the evil Americans, Russians, British, and French who
destroyed the civilized German cities in 1945, without even bothering
to mention that Nazi Germany invaded and tortured nearly the whole of
Europe and Russia before that? You would suspect that this
“revisionist historian” is a Nazi sympathizer, right? Or, a Nazi
himself.

Well, you can suspect something similar in Trifkovic’s case. And the
reasons are abundant.

Trifkovic — The Devil’s Advocate?

Srdja Trifkovic is not a Nazi, but rather an advocate of a more
recent fascism: aggressive Serbian nationalism, which was responsible
for the ethnic cleansing and the related war crimes committed against
the Muslims of Bosnia-Herzegovina during 1992-95.

Actually this is not much of a secret. A quick search on the internet
will reveal to you that Srdja Trifkovic was one of the leaders of the
Bosnian Serbs during the years of ethnic cleansing. Unsurprisingly,
he has an online article titled “The Hague Tribunal: Bad Justice,
Worse Politics,” in which he argues that there was no ethnic
cleansing at all against Bosnian Muslims by Serbs. His subtitle reads
“The Myth of the Bosnian Holocaust,” and to support his eccentric
case he repeatedly accuses the U.S. authorities of distorting or
covering up “facts” about Bosnia to accuse Serbs unjustly. His
anti-Islamism seems to produce, as a by-product, some
anti-Americanism, too.

No wonder that the website that presents Trifkovic’s mentioned
article includes slogans like “Free Milosevic – Hands Off Yugoslavia
– Now!” and, instead of Milosevic, presents Bill Clinton, Tony Blair
and Madeline Albright as “wanted war criminals.”

In the same article, Trifkovic openly supports Bosnian Serb wartime
leader Radovan Karadzic and his military chief Gen. Ratko Mladic and
argues for their innocence. These two have been indicted by the U.N.
Tribunal on sixteen counts of genocide and war crimes regarding the
Bosnian war of 1992-1995 and are still fugitives.

Trifkovic’s sympathy for these mass murderers is evident in his
writing, but his link to Slobodan Milosevic, the architect and
mastermind of the Bosnian genocide, was recently debated. Stephen
Schwartz, an authoritative commentator on Islam, world politics and
Balkan affairs, revealed Trifkovic’s links to Milosevic and his ilk
in a Frontpage article. In his reply, Trifkovic repeatedly denied any
link to Milosevic. Yet, there is some undiscussed information that
seems to render his denials unpersuasive.

That information comes directly from The Hague Tribunal on
Yugoslavia. In March, 2003, Trifkovic appeared as a defense witness
in the trial of Milomir Stakic in this court. On July 13, 2003,
Stakic was sentenced to life imprisonment after being found guilty on
the following counts:

Count 4: Extermination, a Crime against Humanity

Count 5: Murder, a Violation of the Laws and Customs of War

Count 6: Persecutions, Crimes against Humanity, incorporating

Count 3: Murder, a Crime against Humanity, and

Count 7: Deportation, a Crime against Humanity.

The entire Judgment of the Tribunal in the Stakic case may be found
at

The Stakic case is of great importance in the overall context of the
Bosnian war and The Hague Tribunal, because it centers on the
expulsion of non-Serbs from the area of Prijedor in northern
Bosnia-Herzegovina, in which the notorious concentration camps of
Keraterm, Omarska and Trnopolje were located. Stakic himself stated
on television that the camps of Omarska, Keraterm, and Trnopolje were
`a necessity in the given moment.’ The Stakic trial is among the most
important proceedings at The Hague.

And Trifkovic was at The Hague to defend the crimes of Stakic. The
expert testimony of Srdja Trifkovic, as he identifies himself in the
record, appears at this link:

There are some illuminating points at Trifkovic’s testimony. At page
13757, Trifkovic admits that he served as `representative of the
Republika Srpska between 9 November, 1993 and July, 1994, in London,’
a fact that he had omitted from the C.V. he submitted to the
Tribunal. The Republika Srpska [R.S.] was the Serbian occupation
zone in Bosnia-Herzegovina created on the orders and under the
direction of Slobodan Milosevic.

At page 13806 Counsel Korner confronts Trifkovic with the following
question: `Dr. Trifkovic, isn’t it in fact the case that far from
being an objective observer of these events and their aftermath, you
are in fact a strongly committed Serb nationalist?’

On March 19, 2003, Judge Wolfgang Schomburg comments on the character
of Trifkovic’s testimony, which he describes as showing `the clear
lack of tolerance, the poor basis of facts relying on secondary
instead of primary sources. And not going into details, we discussed
some examples yesterday. This is clear. But as I said yesterday, this
has nothing to do with Dr. Stakic being the accused here in this
Tribunal.’

That is, the Judge states that the opinions of Trifkovic should not
be attributed to the defendant Stakic. The opinions of Trifkovic were
so extreme they should be excluded so as not to prejudice the defense
of a man who finally was given the first LIFE SENTENCE for his crimes
against Bosnian Muslims!

So you can understand why Trifkovic’s “book”, The Sword of The
Prophet, is full of distortions and biased presentations of history,
as I have demonstrated above, in just a few examples about Turkish
history.

I hope Mr. Isaac will be much more cautious about the distortions of
this “strongly committed Serb nationalist,” who is an advocate of the
criminals that planned and executed the Bosnian genocide. The Psalms
declare, “Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the
wicked” (1:1), and I think Mr. Isaac might need to reconsider his
sources in order to deserve that blessing.

www.un.org/icty/stakic/trialc/judgement/stak-tj030731e.pdf
www.un.org/icty/transe24Stakic/030313ED.htm

UN programme aims to eliminate political, social inequality in Armen

UN programme aims to eliminate political, social inequality in Armenia

Mediamax news agency
1 Dec 04

YEREVAN

The Armenian government and the United Nations Organization [UNO]
signed a promotion programme for 2005-2009 in Yerevan today.

The resident representative of the UNDP in Armenia, Lise Grande, noted
that the five-year programme covers four directions: economic and
social justice, and democratic and ecological management. The main
objective of the programme is to eliminate economic, social and
political inequality in Armenia.

The general budget of the UNO programmes implemented in Armenia in
2004 totals 10m dollars.

TBILISI: Georgian deputy defence minister interviewed on relationswi

Georgian deputy defence minister interviewed on relations with Russia

Georgian State Television Channel 1, Tbilisi
24 Nov 04

Georgian Deputy Defence Minister Davit Sikharulidze has praised Russia
for agreeing to hand over to Georgia a tank repair plant in Tbilisi. He
said that it was one of the very few examples of “fruitful” military
cooperation between the two countries recently. He also said that how
soon Russia agreed to close its remaining bases in Georgia remained
“the central issue”, which would determine the future of bilateral
relations. The following is the text of Aleksandre Parulava’s interview
with Sikharulidze on 24 November, broadcast live by Georgian TV;
subheadings have been inserted editorially:

Tank repair plant

[Question] Russia today agreed to hand over to Georgia its tank
repair plant in Tbilisi. Our guest today is Georgian Deputy Defence
Minister Davit Sikharulidze. Thank you for coming to our studio. It
would be interesting to know how you managed to reach this agreement
at a time when Russia is refusing to honour its other commitments,
for example those relating to the closure of its bases.

[Sikharulidze] Good evening. I am pleased to say that this was one
of the few examples, if not the only recent example, of fruitful
cooperation between our delegations. This was preceded by the eighth
round of Georgian-Russian talks, Defence Minister Giorgi Baramidze’s
visit to Moscow and his meetings with [Russian Defence Minister Sergey]
Ivanov and the chief of the Russian General Staff at which this issue
was agreed in principle. But, as you know, in our relations with
Russia there is often a long way to go from agreement in principle
to implementation in practice.

In general, I am pleased with this example of cooperation because both
sides have demonstrated goodwill. The Georgian side was flexible and
showed that it was very important for it to reach agreement. For its
part, the Russian side also showed goodwill, making this agreement
possible.

[Question] What about the plant itself? We understand that this
plant has served Russian forces in the Transcaucasus. Naturally,
a large part of these forces are based in Armenia. How does Russia
see its future here? Does it mean that it is preparing to withdraw
from the Transcaucasus?

[Sikharulidze] That is our dream. We want Georgia to be gradually
freed from Russia’s military presence.

In the case of this plant, we hope that it is in better condition
than other installations we have received this year. There are about
15 such installations. Your film crew visited these installations and
saw that their value as military installations was not great and they
were in terrible condition. With the help of law-enforcement agencies
we have been able to monitor this place and we hope that it will not
be handed over to us asset stripped. Our team will go and inspect
the plant tomorrow.

[Question] What is the timetable for the handover of the plant?

[Sikharulidze] The process should be completed by 30 January. It is
important, however, that we have agreed on the joint protection of
this installation in the meantime.

[Question] How will this plant help Georgia’s defence capability?

[Sikharulidze] It will be a very important plant for us. Repair and
servicing of all Soviet-made tanks and armoured vehicles can take place
there. As you know, most of our equipment is Soviet made. Georgia
does not have such a plant. We hope that it will soon be able to
serve our armed forces. We may also consider repair and servicing
requests from other countries.

[Question] In what financial state will you inherit this plant? We
know that this plant has some debts to the state. Will they be written
off or not?

[Sikharulidze] Under the protocol we have signed, the Russian side
will have to clear the wage debt as well as its income tax and social
liabilities, despite the fact that it is giving us this valuable plant
free of charge. There were also other liabilities but we agreed that,
if the plant was handed over to us in working condition, the Georgian
side would not demand certain payments from the Russian side. This
mainly applies to late tax payment penalties.

Closure of Russian bases

[Question] Georgia still has not signed the framework [friendship]
treaty with Russia. How soon will it be possible to sign this treaty
and will the Georgian side be able to defend its interests in this
treaty?

[Sikharulidze] I think the most important and fundamental condition
is that the Russian military bases should be removed from Georgian
territory as soon as possible. That is the central issue at all
our talks. It is the unshakeable will of the Georgian people
that they do not wish to see Russian military bases on Georgian
territory. Therefore, Russia’s willingness to meet us halfway on
this issue will determine the success of this treaty and, generally,
the future of our relations.

Naturally, the entire world accepts the fundamental principle that
one country can only station its forces in another country if there
is a desire for that on the part of the latter. We have been clearly
telling Russia that there is no desire in Georgia for the stationing
of its military here, so they should do their utmost to leave Georgian
territory as soon as possible.

[Question] As deputy defence minister, what do you think about the
timescale for the closure of these bases? There is often a lot of
debate between Georgia and Russia on this issue. What would be the
optimal timescale for the Georgian side and what will be the final
decision?

[Sikharulidze] It would be hard to give an unequivocal answer to
this. This is an issue for talks between diplomats. However, I can
tell you that, technically, two months is quite sufficient for Russia
to withdraw the personnel and equipment it currently has on Georgian
territory. Two months is a realistic period.

Georgia has been very flexible on this issue and is ready to make
concessions by extending this period. However, there are limits to
Georgia’s patience –

[Question] What about money? There has often been talk about how
expensive it is.

[Sikharulidze] I do not think that, for example, the withdrawal from
Vaziani base cost them a lot because there was a special fund set
up by the United States. It was a 10m [dollar] fund. As far as I can
remember – I hope I am not mistaken – it cost them 4m-5m to withdraw
from this base and this sum came from the fund.

In addition, Georgia is ready to help. We can make more
concessions. For example, we can help them cut their transport costs
as much as possible.

Russian base in Abkhazia

[Question] What about the base at Gudauta? We understand the importance
of it being closed. Can the current situation in Abkhazia speed up
the closure of this base?

[Sikharulidze] As regards Gudauta base, you know that the Russian
side undertook to close it together with Vaziani. They have
formally announced that the base has been closed, but neither we nor
international monitors and the international community can ascertain
this.

[Question] I meant that, since pro-Russian forces are being defeated
in Abkhazia, will this speed up the closure of this base?

[Sikharulidze] It is hard to tell. I would not like to link these two
issues. All I can say is that Russia should honour this obligation,
which is an obligation it has made not only to Georgia but also
to the international community. It is the failure to honour these
commitments that makes it impossible for the Adapted Conventional
Forces in Europe Treaty to come into force. That is why our partners
are not pleased with the progress of these talks.

Ukraine

[Question] Finally, I would like to ask you about the situation
in Ukraine. The position of the military is important in any
revolution. The Georgian military declared its position this time
last year. What do you think will happen in Ukraine? What will the
generals and, therefore, the army do there?

[Sikharulidze] I am a civilian, so I will allow myself to comment
on the steps the military may take. I think that the Ukrainian army
is an inalienable part of the Ukrainian people and they will never
decide to go against their own people. I hope, I am almost convinced
that that is how it will be.

BAKU: Trial of Azeri officer accused of murdering Armenian servicema

Trial of Azeri officer accused of murdering Armenian serviceman starts

Assa-Irada, Azerbaijan
Nov 24 2004

The trial of Azerbaijani officer, senior lieutenant Ramil Safarov,
charged with murdering an Armenian serviceman Gurgen Markarian,
started in Budapest, Hungary on Tuesday.

Asked by the judge if he wanted to change his plea, Safarov said that
in making the previous statement, the questions were asked in English,
and therefore, he misunderstood them. The Azeri officer said that for
this reason he would like to re-enter his plea in his native language.

An acquaintance of the murdered Armenian officer, who testified at
the trial as a witness, said that Safarov had allegedly threatened
to kill other Armenian officers as well.*

BAKU: WB allocates $20m loan to Armenia

WB allocates $20m loan to Armenia

Assa-Irada, Azerbaijan
Nov 24 2004

The Yerevan office of the World Bank (WB) said last week that the
Bank allocated a $20 million loan to Armenia in order to assist in
reducing poverty in the country.

The loan, which is allocated for 40 years, with 10-year grace
period and annual interest rate of 0.75%, will go to expansion of
microeconomic sphere, reduction in social risks as well as to stepping
up rights to property and state administration, the office head Roger
Robinson has stated.

The Dutch government is expected to grant 4.3 million euros for the
purpose as well. Robinson appreciated the fact that the funds to be
allocated for education in Armenia will exceed military expenses.

A delegation headed by the WB representative Christian Peterson
visited Baku last week to discuss implementation of the State Program
on Poverty Reduction and Economic Development in Azerbaijan.

Allocation of a $20 million loan to Azerbaijan was discussed with
the Azerbaijani government during the visit as well.*

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A L’ONU, L’AZERBAÏDJAN TENTE DE METTRE FIN AU PROCESSUS DE PAIX DU KARABAGH

Bruxelles, Belgique – Par une initiative commune, l’Azerbaïdjan et la
Turquie ont récemment introduit une résolution à l’ordre du jour de
l’Assemblée Générale de l’ONU demandant à l’Organisation Internationale de
condamner de prétendues colonies arméniennes créées dans les territoires
sous contrôle arménien. L’Arménie a invité les présidents du groupe de Minsk
à réaliser une enquête sur le terrain, à la fois dans les régions sous
contrôle arménien et dans celles sous contrôle azerbaïdjanais, afin de
vérifier les allégations de l’Azerbaïdjan.

La France, les USA et la Russie, les trois pays de la présidence du groupe
de Minsk chargé par l’OSCE du conflit du Karabagh, ont tenté sans succès de
persuader le président Azerbaïdjanais de retirer la résolution.
Lors des précédents votes, la Turquie, a mis à profit son statut de
président de la Conférence Islamique pour exercer d’importantes pressions
sur les pays membre de cette assemblée afin d’assurer un vote favorable à la
résolution. Les nombreux pays abstentionnistes n’entrant pas en ligne de
compte, la résolution sera donc probablement débattue prochainement à
l’Assemblée Générale de l’ONU.

La Fédération Euro-Arménienne rappelle que c’est pour instaurer la paix,
mais également, dans l’intention de représenter l’Europe, jusque-là sans
grande influence dans la région, que la France avait rejoint la présidence
du Groupe de Minsk en 1997. « Elle a fait l’équilibre entre les intérêts
russes et américains dans la région » a expliqué Hilda Tchoboian, Présidente
de la Fédération Euro-Arménienne.

L’Azerbaïdjan a rejeté les principales propositions de l’OSCE : L’ « Etat
Commun » en 1998, les engagements de Paris et les accords de Key West avec
le Président Kotcharian dénoncés par Heidar Aliev en 2001.

La Fédération Euro-Arménienne rappelle que depuis son arrivée aux affaires,
l’actuel président azerbaïdjanais, Ilham Aliev, a constamment discrédité le
processus de l’OSCE menaçant de reprendre la guerre.

« Cette résolution de l’Azerbaïdjan et de la Turquie, avec une autre
initiative en cours au Conseil de l’Europe, est un coup fatal au processus
de négociations initié par le groupe de Minsk » a déclaré Hilda Tchoboian.

La Fédération considère que la désintégration du processus de Minsk exclut
l’Europe de tout rôle actif au sud du Caucase, alors que l’Union européenne
vient d’englober cette région dans sa stratégie de nouveau voisinage. Elle
affirme, que la fin du processus ouvre une nouvelle période d’instabilité
dans la région.

Dans son récent appel aux chefs d’Etat et de gouvernements des 25 pays de
l’Union, la Convention des Arméniens d’Europe, réunie les 18 et 19 octobre
au Parlement européen avait dénoncé le rôle perturbateur de la Turquie dans
le processus de paix du Karabagh.

La Fédération Euro-Arménienne appelle aujourd’hui la Présidence et tous les
pays membres de l’Union Européenne à faire barrage à cette résolution de
l’ONU au nom de la paix et de la stabilité dans cette région sensible.

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International Tournament Dedicated To Tigran Petrosian’s 75thAnniver

INTERNATIONAL TOURNAMENT DEDICATED TO TIGRAN PETROSIAN’S 75TH ANNIVERSARY
STARTS IN YEREVAN ON NOVEMBER 19

YEREVAN, November 19 (Noyan Tapan). The opening of the international
Tournament dedicated to the 75th anniversary of world nine-time
champion Tigran Petrosian started in Yerevan on November 19. A group
of participants of tbe tournament and organizers headed by RA Minister
of Defense Serge Sargsian laid flowers to the monument to T. Petriosian
situated near the Armenian Central Chess-Players House.

During the solemn opening of the tournament Serge Sargsian hailed all
the participants of the tournament and wished them every success. He
also conveyed the greetings and good wishes of RA Prime Minister
Andranik Margarian.

Then referee of international category Armen Nikoghosian, the head
referee of the tournament, informed participants about the order of
tournament and held the draw. Ukrainian grand master Vasili Ivanchuk,
the 2004 World Olympiad and European champion, who has the highest
rating, “selected” the image of a black horse. It means that he and
other chess-players with odd numbers will play with black figures in
D 1.

D 1 was held the same day. About 140 chess-players from different
countries participate in the international tournament dedicated to
the memorable tournament of the world nine-time champion. About 30
participants of the touranment are grand masters, there are also many
international masters. The winner and other prize holders will become
known on November 27.