Satik Seyranyan’s guest in the “Pressing” program is philosopher, religious scholar, former member of the National Assembly (NA) Vardan Khachatryan.

There is an opinion that Russia, by applying these economic sanctions to Armenia during the elections or before the elections, actually helped Pashinyan in his re-election, and due to this, according to some people, he is not actually a pro-Western figure, but a covert pro-Russian figure.

• Nikol Pashinyan used it to some extent, saying that you are suffering, the Russian market is closing, we will give you that money. His step was a problem solver at that moment, but it was a help for people who do not think far. In fact, we are losing the market on which Armenia’s interests and financial and economic strength were anchored. They say we are going to Europe. Is Europe waiting for us? of course not, those people have a problem in their countries today and their problem is not a problem that can be solved. Europe’s main task is to maintain its place among the so-called fate-makers of the world, which it is inevitably losing. There is also a serious crisis in Europe. Look at what the leaders of European countries think of their societies, the ratings are barely within 20 percent.

• Germany itself owed its economic rise to the cheap fuel it received from Russia, be it gas or oil. And when those gas pipelines were blown up, the German economy came to a halt. Now today, one of Germany’s main manufacturing powerhouses, the well-known Volkswagen, essentially ceases to exist in Germany…

• The US finance minister simply announced. “If we want to avoid a world war, then two things must happen. first, Russia should sell all its oil and gas only in dollars, and second, Persia should do the same.” According to him, in that case the problems will be solved. This was the most honest statement made by them, in other cases, one day they say one thing, the next day or afternoon, something else, in the evening, something completely different. But behind all that is the desire to restore the petrodollar, that its influence on the world must be restored, otherwise they will go down in status.

• Iran’s opportunities are growing before everyone’s eyes, it cannot be ignored.

• Of course, Nikol Pashinyan is mostly connected with the West, but the West is represented here by the interests of Turkey and Azerbaijan, and by whom should the West be represented here? And it’s been that way since 1996. Once it was said directly to Kozerev’s face. when he said that Russia has no foreign interests, what should be the issue of the Transcaucasian republics, the US Secretary of State without thinking says that they should come under the patronage of Turkey, Turkey should regulate what is there, what we have.

• In Ankara, at the NATO meeting, Erdogan welcomed Trump with a delegation of 17 people, all of them were representatives of Turkish-speaking, Turkish-speaking peoples, led by him, he showed that I am and I am, I am the future here, and you should just have the best relations with me and help me so that I can set Russia on fire from the south.

• Let’s not forget that the problem of Syria was finally resolved through Ukraine.

• Why is Turkey conducting training to bring the Azerbaijani army up to all NATO standards so that it can work synchronously with Turkey? So, why do we need, let’s say, our Zangezur corridor… So that they can feed the Azerbaijani army…

To remind: Devlet Bahçeli, the leader of Turkey’s largest nationalist force, the “Nationalist Movement” party, a political ally of President Erdogan, recently announced again. Through the “Zangezur Corridor” Kars connects to the Turkestan steppes.

“It is necessary to call things by their names. Zangezur Corridor is actually Turanakan Corridor. When it opens, the idea of ​​the reunification of the Turkic world will be outlined much more clearly,” said Bahceli, addressing the deputies of his party.

Turk the leader of the nationalists also called on the official Yerevan not to hinder the implementation of the project.

“Karabakh is Azerbaijan. This has been proven both on the battlefield, through blood, and at the negotiation table, through legal methods. If Yerevan shows wisdom and honestly participates in regional cooperation, not only Azerbaijan and Turkey, but also Armenia will benefit from the Turanan Corridor. Otherwise, that country may squander tomorrow’s opportunities by clinging to the lost dreams of the past.”

• And why did Bahceli state that their goal is to unite the Turkish world? Now put Aliyev’s statements next to that, when he says that we should not see the face of any Armenian, regardless of whether it is an Armenian border guard or a customs officer, we should not see the face of any Armenian. Why does he say? because from there must go that which must satisfy the army existing there, supplies against Russia. There is no Iran, no Central Asian country will risk taking a step against Russia in this regard. They all know that it will have severe consequences. Now, why do we get into such a game? First of all, it is difficult to imagine entering, besides, was it worth it or not? Can we imagine the danger?

• Our challenges have turned into threats to our country. Finally, we must understand that the goal of these countries is the destruction of Armenia – Armenia will not exist. According to their idea, that Turanian mass should be here, which, based on its interests, should be ready to put the lives, blood, etc. of its citizens. Why do they do it? so that Armenia does not exist, because Armenia will always be hostile to everything that is Turkish, because we were subjected to genocide.

By the way, there are views in the Azerbaijani press that Armenia can have observer status in the Organization of Turkic Speaking States.

• The Armenian Apostolic Church is an archetypal root for us. It is the most important guarantee of our national security. It is an important axis that cannot be touched even with a slingshot, because the answer to it can be with an atomic weapon. It is Armenian identity for 1700 years and includes everything that came before it. Do not suddenly think that it is only 1700 years. What was before that also comes through that pipe, and we are its owners, and thus we are precious to the future, not to the existing mercantile interests, which are political. And under those conditions, the main goal of the hostile forces is to destroy it. As they say, there is no person, there is no problem. The problem is with us. we were not there, that problem does not exist.

Thus, the Armenian diaspora will also disintegrate in just 25-30 years, because the existence of each diaspora is the transmission of cultural rhythm from the mother country. Unfortunately, our Armenian culture is produced only in Armenia. no matter how lame, no matter how damaged the layer, which is unable to even reproduce itself, but still, the motherland is the keeper.

…of course it is the Israeli lobby, and the English lobby, which is stronger than it, which constantly contributes to the Turkish influence everywhere trying to increase against Russia.

We must understand that such a thing cannot be allowed, otherwise we will fall under a deadly blow. Not only do we need to get our heads together, but we also need to understand what is happening.

• In the world now, whether you want it or not, Iran is rising, and we have to consider the possibilities of our opposition to that danger, the danger that is coming at us like a wave. It is not given to any mortal to stop the wave of the sea with two hands. You have to be able to make an alliance, you have to be able to establish relations with those who are ready, according to everything, to enter into the struggle there, also to stand by you.

• Why are they forcing us to leave EAEU, CSTO, NATO, naturally, they will not accept it, but they are forcing us to withdraw the 102nd Russian military base, to break relations with Russia and Iran. they are trying to isolate us, hang up, in order to when that the need be, as միրգ՝ poke, eat No it is possible, without joining any other alliance, to leave an alliance in which you are already in, which will take over your security, take responsibility…

• Now we are going down a path that can lead to a rupture at any moment. In other words, you lose everything, you hang in the air, all possible winds, all possible waves will knock you down. Why are we doing this?

• If we leave the EAEU, it will be a very serious loss for Russia as well, because Russia does not have a base support in the south. It is not permissible for us to go to such a breach.

• There is an old, famous English saying attributed to Churchill, but it was said about 30 years before Churchill’s birth: England has no eternal allies, England has eternal interests, and we, as England, as Great Britain, can only act within those interests. Now, the interest of those people, for 300 years, is to sink Russia, moreover, today’s Europe sees its future to some extent in appropriating the resources of a fragmented Russia. Russia will give an aggressive reaction to it. There is no need for us to fall into that aggressive reaction. I say it very clearly, because it is not our problem, it is the problem of Europe, European countries and, first of all, England, because England still has 1 key orientation, that is: Russia must be destroyed, Russia must sink, the entire Russian crust must belong to European and, above all, to English opportunities, business, etc., etc. This is a history that has been going on for 300 years, which will not change in any way, the geographical positions of those countries will never change, the existing opportunities in those countries will always be opposed to each other, and regardless of whether Armenia wants it or not, we are no longer playing a role there.

• Today, it is obvious that Russia has lowered the status of relations with Armenia.

• Years ago, I remember well, for the first time a European delegation headed by a Dutch representative came, the first thing that stood up and announced: we are tired of you, don’t suddenly say that we are coming to Europe, we are tired of all of you…

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