In the “Pressing” program Satik Seyranyan the guest is the former Prime Minister of the Republic of Armenia, the chairman of “Azatutyun” party Hrant Bagratyan is.

The main theses of the interview are below.

• This economic war with Russia will end with the complete defeat of Armenia, because we do not have the weight and weight to be able to face Russia. Of course, I am against all kinds of sanctions, but Russia says to Pashinyan: Comrade, you have been to Russia 35 times, your Monday starts with America, Tuesday with Europe… by Saturday it is Russia’s turn… Who are you anyway?

• Russia says: have you made me crazy, Armenia… I give you gas, I give you a subsidy of 400 dollars for every cubic meter.

• I appeal to Russia, Nikol Pashinyan is doing you a disservice, not the Armenian people… Do not turn the Armenian people against you. 

• The European says: dear Armenians, your country will either belong to the Russians or to the Turks, we are now fighting against the Russians and we welcome any anti-Russian move. And if you join Turkey or Azerbaijan, even better. This is the position of Europe. This man fell after Europe like an adventurer. 

• They lie. Azerbaijan has no gas, Armenia cannot get gas from anywhere else. A new gas pipeline is needed to bring gas from Iran. 

• I know Saakashvili. He is a liar, don’t believe his words. Azerbaijan gives gas to Georgia for 500 dollars, even if it gives gas to us, it will give it at the same price. It is now more profitable for Georgia to take Russian gas, which it does… 

• The world is divided, and Armenia must decide which side of the mountain it is on. We need to understand who is interested in Armenia. Russia is interested because if Armenia does not exist, the Turks will enter Russia.

• Between Azerbaijan and Armenia, Russia will always choose Armenia, because if Azerbaijan swallows Armenia, it will brazenly drive over Russia. Do not take Karabakh, the Russians will take it in 2016. they said: recognize the independence of Karabakh, which we did not do: 

• We say that the CSTO did not come to our aid, but many who were there in those days saw that the Russian army was there, but did not come forward because they did not know what the border of Armenia was, because Pashinyan was talking about demarcation. That’s why the CSTO said: Pashinyan, tell me what is the border of Armenia… The Russians came to help the villages of Vardenis, because they knew for sure that those villages were Armenian. They didn’t do it in Jermuk, why… Ask the Chief of the General Staff, Nikol Pashinyan, the end, dear friend, did the Azerbaijanis go hungry, did they go or not?

• In Azerbaijan, they raise questions against Ilham Aliyev: why did the Azerbaijani army stop in Vardenis, why didn’t we take everything? If Nikol Pashinyan is not elected, a normal national force will come to power, it will take back what it lost, what will we do?:

• During the 44-day war, Nikol Pashinyan listened only to the West. They said to him, “Dear friend, you must lose Karabakh, hand it over, so that the Russians will be cut off from the South Caucasus.” A few days later, on June 7, the government will change, everything will be investigated…

• Azerbaijan never says with what borders it recognizes the territorial integrity of Armenia, because it has approvals for Sevan and Syunik.

• Georgians lost Ajaria, Turks got everything under Saakashvili. He opened Ajaria to the Turks. They came without going through border control, and then they started being rude. The Turks took Batumi into their hands. The Ajars, who were Muslim, then became Christian under Abashidze, then Muslim again, lost their land. Now Ivanishvili is trying to solve these issues. New laws have been adopted, according to which Turks are no longer given land, although it is probably too late.

• Brothers, what does accepting 300,000 Azerbaijanis mean? First of all, how did they become 300,000, they were 150,000, when there were 500,000 Armenians in Azerbaijan? In the center of Baku was the Armenikend neighborhood with expensive houses, each of them is worth a million dollars today, so the Armenians will have to go and get their houses, which they don’t talk about.

• On May 28, Trump warmly congratulated Nikol, an hour after that, Aliyev said: I have 3 conditions, will you do them, there will be peace? That day, Aliyev abused Nikol. If Armenians have any sense, they should say: don’t mind Trump’s paper, it’s nothing, like Woodrow Wilson didn’t exist. Trump’s word is worth zero, Aliyev’s word is not worth zero, but what did Europe say… Nothing:

• The USA and Europe have no vital interests in our region. Russia, Turkey and Iran to our south have such interests:

• There will be a change of power on June 7, Nikol Pashinyan, Ararat Mirzoyan, Alen Simonyan, Suren Papikyan, Sasun Mikayelyan, others will be invited to law enforcement agencies and asked questions. We are not dealing with a traitor in our country, but with an enemy.

• We took about 700 million dollars worth of agricultural products to Russia annually, 200 million of which were taxes. We will not take it this year, the budget will be short. Now Ararat Mirzoyan and Aram Sargsyan say: we will take our goods to Europe. I offer them to take 5 kg of onions from Armenia to Europe and sell them, I will pay 100,000 dollars. Let’s put a representative with you to sell in any market in Europe, can you? Skiing in Russia is not competitive, how will you fare in the strict conditions of sanitary phytosanitary rules in Europe? Ararat Mirzoyan, keep your wits about you, don’t talk nonsense. How many bottles of wine or how many kg of peaches did Georgians sell in Europe… Let the EU ambassador go and give such advice to his relatives. We live in a madhouse, man…

• Would a 3,000-year-old nation go after someone of questionable ethnicity? Man, if an Azerbaijani comes to a mono-ethnic country, what will he do? This man, Pashinyan, does not consider himself Armenian, he does not feel, he listens to Armenian music, he drinks gas. 

• Aliyev is Pashinyan’s continuation. Now he has announced a search warrant for Samvel Karapetyan, this is what he says: catch him, give him to me. can’t do this either. Pashinyan’s hysteria is also due to this.

• I don’t know what Pashinyan will have to do to pass. He won’t win. Nikol Pashinyan does not have a number 2. Gurgen Simonyan is Nikol-2, he has no chance to pass. Nikol Pashinyan is excluded from having a constitutional majority. Samvel Karapetyan is the leader of the opposition, Robert Kocharyan is gaining momentum. If 60% participate in the elections, the opposition wins with a score of 65-35. Go to the polls, dear people, and don’t vote for Nikol Pashinyan. Why is there no choice… Do you want manna from God? In the same way that he emptied Karabakh, Aliyev will empty Armenia in the same way with the hands of Pashinyan. Wake up! The Armenian voter has no place to complain, there are all kinds of candidates. You don’t like one of the 18? What a delicate palate you have, the opposition has such a candidate. Pashinyan has occupied Armenia, we must liberate Armenia from Osok. This is not an election, but a national liberation struggle:

• During the 8 years of his rule, Nikol Pashinyan did not bring a single dram of looted money to the state budget, while he promised to bring 20 billion.

• He says he bought a weapon, he is lying. He did not buy weapons worth 8 billion. That money should have entered the budget to buy weapons. He himself bought 1 billion 200 million worth of weapons, such weak weapons that it was a shame to show them at a military parade. Azerbaijan built a factory of drones and they have many times more than us. They came at us, what will you use to hit those ATS? Do we have a defense minister, what is it for? Or the Minister of Foreign Affairs, when asked about the prisoners, should say: Did you kneel? 

• On June 7, he will definitely lose, the opposition has to stand up for its votes. 

• CP distributes bribes at the expense of the left-wing state and the budget. Medical insurance will explode on June 8, but the incoming government must at all costs implement the program in high quality, not in a sloppy way. The opposition has good plans in this regard. There are good economic plans, people plan to create investment funds.

• The US administration is sure that Nikol Pashinyan will not win the elections. That’s why they came and signed the paper that the American will exploit as many mines as we have.

• Armenian people, I believe in your historical wisdom. You cannot choose the path of suicide by choosing Pashinyan. You have a choice of any taste and I believe that the government will change: 

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