ANKARA: More Productive Ties Seen Between Athens, Ankara

MORE PRODUCTIVE TIES SEEN BETWEEN ATHENS, ANKARA
Chris Loutradis

Hurriyet Daily News
Nov 6 2009
Turkey

Turkey and Greece have appeared to enter a new era of friendlier and
more productive bilateral relations after the Turkish prime minister’s
letter to his Greek counterpart and a senior Turkish official’s visit
to Athens was received warmly.

In his letter to Greece’s Prime Minister George Papandreou, Turkish
Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan expressed his will to solve all the
open disputes between the two nations. A few days after the letter,
Turkish State Minister and Chief Negotiator for EU talks, Egemen
BagıÅ~_, paid a visit to Athens. During his consultations, Papandreou
told BagıÅ~_ that his government welcomed Erdogan’s letter and said
he was ready to work together on the Aegean and Cyprus disputes.

In his letter, Erdogan expressed his belief that issues between Greece
and Turkey could be solved via an honest and in-depth dialogue between
the two parties, according to a Greek diplomatic source who asked to
remain anonymous. "Erdogan made some very progressive suggestions with
regard to the Cyprus issue and the Aegean disputes, which will cause
very interesting reactions from both sides if they are published,"
the source said. The Turkish prime minister went on to reaffirm his
stance that Turkey "wants zero-problems with neighbors."

According to the same source, Papandreou has already planned the basic
guidelines of his reply, and because he is solely engaged in writing
the response, evidences his interest in the progress of Greece-Turkey
relations. The Greek prime minister was also expected to voice his
support for Erdogan’s efforts to comply with EU directives and to
accept Erdogan’s suggestion for a high-level council of cooperation
in which all major issues that arise between both nations will be
discussed.

Clear proof

According to Greek experts in Greece-Turkey relations, Prime Minister
Erdogan’s letter is clear proof that the Turkish prime minister wants
to send a strong, clear signal to the EU that he is willing to solve
all the open disputes with Greece.

"Turkey and Greece share a common fate and a common future," BagıÅ~_
said at an event organized by the International Center for Black
Sea Studies and attended by Greek Prime Minister Papandreou. The
Greek audience responded with satisfaction when BagıÅ~_ said,
"A new era has started in the relations of the two countries, with
the government of Papandreou willing to build a peaceful future
with Turkey." The minister added that during this period, Erdogan’s
government is demolishing taboos of Turkish society by solving the
Kurdish issue and by dealing with open disputes with Armenia. "It is
time to discuss Greece, too," BagıÅ~_ added.

On the thorny issue of Cyprus, BagıÅ~_ said Turkey would support any
solution agreed on by the leaders of the two sides of the island. He
praised the efforts of Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat
and Greek Cypriot President Dimitris Christofias, and stressed that
Greece and Turkey should support the two presidents as their "term
is limited and because we do not know who will govern next."

Perhaps more worryingly was a question raised by a participant
who asked about the presence of the Turkish Army on the war-divided
island. BagıÅ~_ said the Turkish Army protects the safety of Turkish
Cypriots and it will not withdraw unless other armies withdrew as well.

BAKU: Iran Fines Armenia For Violations Of Take-Or-Pay Gas Agreement

IRAN FINES ARMENIA FOR VIOLATIONS OF TAKE-OR-PAY GAS AGREEMENT

APA
Nov 6 2009
Azerbaijan

Baku – APA-ECONOMICS. Iran is delivering 1 to 1.2 million cubic meters
of natural gas to Armenia a day in exchange for an equivalent amount
of electricity under a contractual agreement, said Rasoul Salmani,
engineering and technical services director of Iran’s National Gas
Export Company (NIGEC).

In his words, the Iranian side is technically ready to increase the
daily volume to 3 million cubic meters a day but can’t do this because
of Armenia’s dragging feets.

"Because this is a take or pay agreement, the Armenian side should pay
Iran a fine. This is due to the fact that despite Iran’s willingness
to supply more gas in accordance with the agreement, Armenia takes
lessen than the planned gas volumes," he added.

A take or pay principle is a contractual agreement in which one party
agrees to purchase a specific amount of gas or to pay the equivalent
cost even if the specified amount of gas is not needed.

The amount of penalty will be fixed and Armenia will be informed of
this, he noted.

Armenia To Benefit From Upper Lars Checkpoint

ARMENIA TO BENEFIT FROM UPPER LARS CHECKPOINT

news.am
nov 6 2009
Armenia

The opening of the Upper Lars checkpoint depends in Russia’s consent
to lift, or at least mitigates, the embargo on Georgian products,
Shirak Torosyan, the Head of the Javakhk Union and member of the RA
Parliament, told NEWS.am.

He stressed that Armenia is the first to get economic benefits from
the opening of the checkpoint, as it is the only road connecting
Armenia with Russia. "Moreover, almost simultaneous opening of the
Armenian-Turkish border and the Upper Lars checkpoint ill create
transit competition in the region, which, in turn, cause a fall
in cargo transportation prices both in Georgia and in Turkey,"
Torosyan said.

The Armenian, Russian and Georgian Foreign Offices confirmed a
trilateral meeting in Yerevan, which discussed the opening of the
Upper Lars checkpoint, with Armenia acting as mediator. A source at
the Georgian Foreign Office pointed out that Georgia will open the
checkpoint provided Russia removed the embargo on Georgian products.

In its turn, the Russian Foreign Office refutes Georgia’s
preconditions. The Armenian Foreign Office welcomed the possibility
of a compromise.

The land border between Russia and Georgia was closed in 2006 after
Russian officers were arrested in Tbilisi on a charge of espionage.

Russia imposed an embargo on Georgian products and closed the Upper
Lars checkpoint pleading the construction of a new terminal. Late last
year, Moscow informed the Georgian Foreign Office that the construction
had been completed and the terminal designed to serve 400 vehicles
daily opened. The Georgian side, however, demanded negotiations in
Geneva, through Swiss mediation, which proved unacceptable to Moscow.

A Brief History Of The Right To Self-Defense

A BRIEF HISTORY OF THE RIGHT TO SELF-DEFENSE
by Bob Heinritz

Human Events
4313
Nov 6 2009

For the first 150-years of the existence of the U.S.A., the right
of citizens to carry arms was so fundamental it was not considered
worthy of debate. The Founders considered their right to keep and
bear arms the ultimate and most fundamental guarantee of life and
free-dom against crime, foreign invasion, and as a last resort,
a despotic government. No knowledgeable American–from the founding
of the United States through the mid-1950’s–would have questioned
that the Second Amendment to the Constitution meant exactly what
it says, "… the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall
not be infringed." This was not a right of a Militia. The "Militia"
was–and under current law still is–all able-bodied adults, who are
expected to keep their privately-owned arms similar to what is used
by the military at the time.

Nineteenth-century U.S. Supreme Court Justice, Joseph Story, called
the American right to bear arms "the palladium of the liberties of
the republic." Our Founders believed that in a free society good
citizens must always be prepared to defend themselves and their
country. Thomas Jefferson said, "The God who gave us life, gave us
freedom to defend life." Being armed was more than a right. It was
a moral obligation of citizenship. Twentieth-century history proves
the wisdom of this philosophy:

In 1911, Turkey established gun-control. From 1915 to 1917,
1.5-million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and exterminated.

In 1929, the Soviet Union established gun-control. From 1929 to 1953,
about 20-million dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded
up and exterminated.

In 1938, Germany established gun-control. From 1939 to 1945, a total
of 13-million Jews and others who were unable to defend themselves,
were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1935, China established gun-control. From 1948 to 1952, 20-million
political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and exterminated.

In 1956, Cambodia established gun-control. From 1975 to 1977,
1.5-million ‘educated’ people, unable to defend themselves, were
rounded up and exterminated.

In 1964, Guatemala established gun-control. From 1964 to 1981, over
100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves were rounded up
and exterminated.

In 1970, Uganda established gun-control. From 1971 to 1979 over
300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up
and exterminated.

Australia: In the 21st Century, gun owners in Australia were forced
to surrender 640,381 personal firearms –which were then destroyed
by their own government. This program cost Australian taxpayers more
than $500-million. Results the first year:

1. Australia-wide: Homicides up 3.2-percent.

2. Australia-wide: Assaults up 8.6-percent.

3. Australia-wide: Armed robberies up 44-percent – yes, 44-percent!

4. In the state of Victoria alone, homicides with firearms went up
300-percent. One doesn’t have to be a rocket-scientist to understand
this. While the law-abiding citizens turned their guns in, the
criminals did not. The illegal-gun trade thrives!

5. Australian criminal-data over the previous 25 years showed a steady
decrease in armed robbery with firearms. This has drastically changed
upward, since criminals now are guaranteed their prey is unarmed.

6. There has also been a dramatic increase in home break-ins and
assaults on the elderly.

7. Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety
has decreased, after such monumental efforts and expense were expended
in successfully ridding Australian society–but not the criminals–of
guns.

8. The Australian experience and the other historical facts leave
no reasonable doubt. So called "gun-control" is harmful to freedom
and public-safety.

Great Britain: At the beginning of the 20th Century, Great Britain
had few "gun-control" laws as we now know them. Although there were
different class-restrictions, guns were freely available to nearly
anyone. While the American militia originated from traditional British
rights, the British Crown was aware that the very existence of a
civilian-militia denied the monarchy a monopoly of force. Over the
decades, Britain used various threats of revolution, Irish-separatism,
and two world wars, as a pretext to enact ever-increasing restrictions
and controls of guns in private hands. Currently, legal acquisition of
a gun is nearly impossible for law-abiding British subjects. Despite
this, the British government and British police have been unable to
show these restrictions have reduced crime. Today, there are far more
illegal guns in Britain, and far more violent crime. "Hot burglaries"
— that is burglaries in which the criminal knows the home-owners
are home — are eight times more likely in Britain than in the U.S..

Tourists and natives alike are five times more likely to be victims
of a violent crime in London than in New York.

United States: In all but two states of the U.S., law-abiding civilians
who apply, submit to a police-check, and demonstrate reasonable
firearms-proficiency and knowledge of the law, may receive a license
to carry a concealed firearm. Contrary to threats by gun-control
advocates, this has not resulted in "blood in the streets" or any
increase of crime or gun-violence. In all U.S. jurisdictions where
lawful concealed carry is possible, violence and violent crime
has decreased significantly. Multiple criminological studies have
demonstrated that in the U.S. each year over 2.5-million crimes are
stopped or deterred by armed American civilians; most with no one
being shot or harmed. On the other hand, in jurisdictions such as
Washington, D.C., or Chicago, Illinois, where handguns are banned
and long-guns must be disassembled and/or locked up, the homicide
rate skyrocketed to eight times the national average.

Worldwide: The concept that free people have the right to defend
themselves is as old as civilization. Under ancient Greek, Roman, and
Anglo-Saxon law, the ceremony of freeing a slave included placing a
weapon in his hands "as a symbol of his new rank." Aristotle wrote in
Politics 68 that "true citizenship included the right to possess arms,
and that armed tyrants disarmed the oppressed." So what results from
our "more advanced" thinking of the 20th Century? Conservatively,
in excess of 100-million defenseless unarmed-civilians were rounded
up and exterminated by various governments. (See data.)

You won’t see this data on the American evening news or hear
our President, governors or other politicians disseminating this
information. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and
property. Guns in the hands of honest citizens preserve freedom and
dignity — from both criminal and government predators. And, yes,
gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens. The gun-control
party is now in the majority in Congress. Take note before it’s too
late. The next time a politician talks in favor of gun-control, please
remind all who are listening of the lesson of history. All credible
scholarship indicates so-called "gun-control" laws never work, are
dangerous to the rights of the law-abiding, and are inconsistent with
the values on which the United States were founded. The Founders of
America had it right. With guns, we are "citizens." Without them,
we are "subjects." Please spread this civil-rights message — the
right to life — to all of your friends, and especially all your
government servants. You don’t work for them. They work for you.

This article is courtesy of the United States Concealed Carry
Association. To get your free copy of the Armed American newsletter
click here.

Bob Heinritz is an honors graduate in management, economics, law and a
member of the Bar of the states of Arizona, Illinois and Missouri. He
is a former trial lawyer, and now is a business attorney and management
consultant, specializing in strategic planning, productivity and
business turnarounds.

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ANKARA: Diyarbakir Feels The Pinch On The Pitch

DIYARBAKIR FEELS THE PINCH ON THE PITCH

Hurriyet Daily News
Nov 6 2009
Turkey

Recent trouble at matches involving Diyarbakirspor has brought
racism in football and in society as a whole to the fore of public
discussions. Diyarbakirspor once enjoyed the advantages of state
support, but the government’s recent Kurdish initiative has led to
questions about why the team has become the target of protests

Diyarbakirspor is more than just a football club for the city.

Diayrbakir Gov. Huseyin Avni Mutlu (R), Diyarbakir Mayor Osman Baydemir
(C), Diyarbakir deputy Kutbettin Arzu (L) pose for photographers all
wearing Diyarbakirspor scarves. Second on the right is Diyarbakirspor
chairman Ceitn Sumer. AA photo

The "democratic" or "Kurdish" initiative has seen its share of heated
political debates in many different venues, but now the debate has
struck in the most popular forum in Turkey — the football pitch.

Recently, stadiums have featured unruly scenes and the protests are
increasing whenever Diyarbakirspor, a team often associated with
Kurdishness, takes the field.

Many ultra-nationalists in Turkey consider Diyarbakirspor, from the
biggest city in southeastern Turkey, as a representative of the Kurdish
population and, by extension, the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party,
or PKK. The team and its supporters have on many occasions become
targets of anti-Kurdish banners and chants.

The latest incident was during a Nov. 1 game in Gaziantep, after which
Diyarbakirspor executives complained that the home team supporters
chanted offensive slogans. The northwestern city of Bursa witnessed
worse scenes in late September when Diyarbakirspor fans were booed
and plastic seats where thrown at them.

"We have nothing to do with politics and we do not deserve these
protests," said Diyarbakirspor’s Chairman Cetin Sumer after the
Gaziantepspor game, announcing they would not play against Galatasaray
on Sunday.

Sumer’s announcement caused debates in the Turkish media, and although
Diyarbakirspor’s administrative board changed its decision Thursday
and announced they would be on the pitch on Sunday, many questions
remain unanswered as to why such conflicts arise against the team.

"Even though we deny it, racism is increasing in Turkish football,"
wrote Radikal daily’s sports columnist BagıÅ~_ Erten. "Still,
it is not an excuse for the hatred that is growing on the streets
of Turkey. It is not just a problem in football. We need a public
initiative to solve it."

Yet, some think racism has always existed but only now is the Turkish
media recognizing it.

"People of Diyarbakir have grown accustomed to such protests," said
Ibrahim AteÅ~_oglu, Diyarbakir representative of Turkish Sports Writers
Association, or TSYD. "But the media were not interested. Only now
have they started paying attention to the issue and making headlines."

Writer and journalist Murat Toklucu told the Hurriyet Daily News &
Economic Review that protests in the past were limited to isolated
incidents.

"In 2000 there was a game between Diyarbakirspor and Konyaspor
scheduled to play in Konya. On the day of the game, many university
students, mostly girls, were allegedly beaten and dragged into the
streets because they were from Diyarbakir," he said. "Now with the
Kurdish initiative, the isolated protests have turned into mass
actions."

"The move has definitely triggered the protests. Since the 90s
football stadiums have been the mirrors of political agendas,
and currently it is used by those who think all Kurds are ‘killer
dogs,’" said Erten. "It is not uncommon to identify teams with ethnic
identities. We identify Trabzonspor with the Laz. But the question
is why aren’t there protests against them?"

We are all Turks

Turkish football stadiums have often been used for protests. After
Sept. 11, protests were held in support of Osama Bin Laden and against
the United States. Another recent case also happened when Armenian
journalist Hrant Dink was killed in 2007. During a game between
Trabzonspor and Kayserispor, ultra-nationalist supporters carried signs
saying, "We are all Turks, we are all Turkey lovers," as a response to
"We are all Dink, we are all Armenian," slogan by Dink’s supporters.

Yet, having a better perspective on the Diyarbakirspor issue perhaps
requires a closer look on the team’s relationship with the state.

"Before 2000, Diyarbakirspor used to be a very weak team. Yet, when
the state decided to make peace with the Kurds, it suddenly made its
way into the Super League, the top flight," said Toklucu, recalling
the lower division title fight in 2000-2001.

A state project?

In the early 2000s, a lot of controversy around the Diyarbakirspor
football team as it advanced into the top league because of what some
say was significant state support.

In January 2001, the former Diyarbakirpsor chairman, the Diyarbakir
Police Chief Gaffar Okkan, along with five other police officers
were assassinated by Turkish Hezbollah militants. Then, in May 2001,
third-place Diyarbakirspor hosted second-place Altay with two weeks
left in the season. Because Okkan had been a very popular figure
among Diyarbakir locals there was immense pressure for the club to
be in the top league in order to ease stress in the city.

The game turned out to be a disgrace to Turkish football. It was
scheduled to be broadcast live by state-run channel TRT but was
canceled at the last minute. Stones were thrown at the Altay players
as they stepped onto the pitch and there were many injuries.

"The spectators threw glass marbles at the players in the first 15
minutes of the game," Yuksel Guruz, a board member at the time, wrote
Toklucu in his book "Taraftarın Senle" (Your Fans Behind You). "At one
point, I feared we would not make it out of the stadium alive. I have
been to many games all over the country, but never witnessed this."

Journalists from Izmir were locked up in a dressing room. Taking
photos and video was prohibited until the home team led by three
goals. Diyarbakirspor won the game 3-1 and made it into the top league.

Then, in 2005, when Diyarbakirspor was officially sponsored by the
local government, the team dropped again to the lower division but
managed to make it back to the Super League. Its then Chairman Adnan
Okturen had close relations with the military and state officials. The
local government’s sponsorship also raised controversy.

According to Tanil Bora, a leading academic specializing in
nationalism, Diyarbakirspor is not just a local team. It expresses
Kurdish identity and is regarded as the common man’s team. Yet the
controversy over the last 10 years affected Diyarbakirspor’s popularity
and could be why the team has become the target so much hatred.

"It definitely caused the people to loose sympathy for [the team], but
only a very small percentage," said Toklucu. "Diyarbakirspor’s story
is definitely complicated, almost as complicated as the Kurdish issue.

But closer examination of the state’s policy toward the Kurdish issue
could explain a lot about Diyarbakirspor."

No Issues That Can’t Be Resolved Between Armenia And Georgia

NO ISSUES THAT CAN’T BE RESOLVED BETWEEN ARMENIA AND GEORGIA

Tert
Nov 6 2009
Armenia

Today, the recently appointed Ambassador of Georgia to Armenia
Grigol Tabatadze submitted his credentials to Armenian President
Serzh Sargsyan, informs the President of the Republic of Armenia
press office.

Congratulating the diplomat on being appointed ambassador, the
president said, "We have passed quite a long historic path and our
previous relations oblige us to become even closer friends and to
cooperate even more closely. The level of our relations today, of
course, is very high but they need constant attention and improvement.

That is why, the ambassadors of our countries must work very
intensively. I think we haven’t exhausted the entire potential of
our opportunities, and we can offer new prospects of cooperation."

In Ambassador Tabatadze’s words, Mikheil Saakashvili, too, places much
importance on the development of relations with its friend Armenia and
finds that there is no other option than friendship and cooperation.

At the same time, he said that his country’s political leadership
highly praises the Armenian president’s vision considering he is
the political figure who looks upon the future while not forgetting
the past.

The Armenian president and the ambassador were of the same opinion
that there are no such issues between the two countries that are
impossible to settle through joint discussions and dialogue.

The parties also referred to issues relating to the agenda between
Armenia and Georgia and the intergovernmental commission’s activities.

Beeline Didn’t Notice ‘Orange Revolution’ In Armenia

BEELINE DIDN’T NOTICE ‘ORANGE REVOLUTION’ IN ARMENIA

Tert
Nov 6 2009
Armenia

The entrance of Orange Armenia, the third mobile operator in Armenia,
in the market didn’t change a thing in the sector, said Director
General of ArmenTel (trademark: Beeline) Igor Klimko.

Speaking with journalists today, Klimko stated that both in the
internet services and the mobile communications markets ArmenTel’s
plans and rates are more competitive. "Many expected it, but an orange
revolution didn’t take place. To say that a new operator appeared,
which could offer dumping prices, would be wrong. Particularly,
this refers to the internet," Klimko said.

According to the latter, if we become intimately acquainted with
the mobile communications tariffs offered by their competitor, we
could see they are not engaging in predatory pricing (a term used in
economics which denotes the practice of selling a product at a very
low price in order to oust the competition). "Those offers [referring
to predatory pricing] are correct concerning operators in the market,"
Klimko stated.

"In the mobile communications sector, for several months, ArmenTel
dictated the fashion," Klimko said, mentioning For You and For
You-Exclusive "revolutionary" packages, in particular.

As for internet services, the company’s director general doesn’t
consider the price offered by Orange Armenia a serious threat to
ArmenTel.

In this contex,t Klimko presented some numbers for comparison: ArmenTel
offers unlimited internet at 12,500 AMD per month and a modem at 18,000
AMD. While Orange Armenia’s modem for internet connection is 35,000
AMD, and the monthly rate for internet services is set at 9,000 AMD.

At the same time, ArmenTel’s director general appealed to Orange
Armenia’s potential subscribers to get better acquainted with the
tariffs offered by Armenia’s newest operator in the internet and
mobile communicationss market.

Verbal Contract Introduced In Armenia’s Labour Code

VERBAL CONTRACT INTRODUCED IN ARMENIA’S LABOUR CODE

Tert
Nov 6 2009
Armenia

During its session today, the Republic of Armenia government approved
the package of draft laws on making amendments to the Republic
of Armenia Labour Code, Republic of Armenia Code on Administrative
Violations, Republic of Armenia Law on State Labour Inspectorate, and
the Law on repealing the Law on Employment Remuneration. The decision
was elaborated and made, taking into consideration the necessity to
settle separate issues which emerged in the practice of implenting
laws after the RA Labour Code was put into force.

As announced by the Republic of Armenia government’s press and
public relations department, the proposed amendments to the Code aim
to simplify and specify the regulation of work relationships and to
bring them in line with international agreements: requirements from the
separate clauses stipulated by the Republic of Armenia Constitution,
ILO Conventions and the Revised European Social Charter. Planned
as well are new mechanisms for notification on employment contract
termination, severance pay, payment if changing to another post with
the same employer, regulation of remuneration during probation period,
as well as to introducing the practice of the verbal contract.

The draft law package will be submitted to the Republic of Armenia
National Assembly as prescribed by law.

4th Festival Of Young Theatre Directors Takes Place In Yerevan

4TH FESTIVAL OF YOUNG THEATRE DIRECTORS TAKES PLACE IN YEREVAN

Tert
Nov 6 2009
Armenia

The 4th Republican Festival of Young Theatre Directors, founded and
realized by Theatrical Workers’ Union of Armenia and with the support
of the Ministry of Culture, will take place from November 8-18. This
year, the number of theatrical performances in the festival line-up
rose from 11 to 14.

Other than the young stage directors from Yerevan, youth from Armenian
regional theatres outside of Yerevan, including youth from Gyumri,
Vanadzor, Kapan and Goris, will be showcasing their work in Yerevan
during the festival.

All performances in the festival are free and open to the public.

Nagorno-Karabakh Cannot Be Part Of Azerbaijan, Says Sharmazanov

NAGORNO-KARABAKH CANNOT BE PART OF AZERBAIJAN, SAYS SHARMAZANOV

Tert
Nov 6 2009
Armenia

"Nagorno-Karabakh cannot have a worse status than it has today. That
is, it cannot be included as part of Azerbaijan. Let Azerbaijan give
up this idea, " Republican Party of Armenia (RPA) press spokesperson,
RPA parliamentary faction secretary Eduard Sharmazanov stated today
at a press conference, referring to the statement made by EU Special
Representative to the South Caucasus Peter Semneby.

As Tert.am had reported earlier, Semneby had said, in his interview
with Russian paper Vremya Novostey, that the status-quo of
Nagorno-Karabakh cannot be perpetual.

Continuing, Sharmazanov said that Karabakh today with its structures
and inner life is more established and independent than Azerbaijan.

Sharmazanov also emphasized that its right to live under the sun,
its fate, the people of Nagorno-Karabakh have already decided.